Another US mass shooting

[Taylor]

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This is a bit partisan isn't it?

The answer to this of course is the Democrat who takes photos with the dead and then campaigns on it, but even with full control does nothing - so they can campaign on it again next time too.

Not to mention the heavy racist roots of gun control laws.

And I am intentionally trying to rustle your jimmies on that, but it's true. The greatest action on gun control has been as a reaction to the black activist groups possessing guns.

 

[ep2018]

Columbine school shooter Eric Harris' last words in a recording he made in his mothers basement the morning before the shooting:

paraphrasing: "I hope today sets off a chain reaction of hate. I hope others are inspired to do the same"

Crazy how many school shootings have happened since. Amazing how many refer to Columbine as their inspiration. Would not surprise if this is the case here.

 

[Taylor]

Columbine school shooter Eric Harris' last words in a recording he made in his mothers basement the morning before the shooting:

paraphrasing: "I hope today sets off a chain reaction of hate. I hope others are inspired to do the same"

Crazy how many school shootings have happened since. Amazing how many refer to Columbine as their inspiration. Would not surprise if this is the case here.

Their horrible actions turned them from nameless nobodies into historical figures. It's still the fastest way to having your face and name known nation and world wide.

 

[Toump Ass]

You're right, that it's very unlikely, but it's still the leading cause of death for children in the US which is just insane.

Yeah that statistic is a real humdinger ain't it.

I was in Chicago a while back and I remember the news had a story of a young child getting shot (stray bullet, gun violence) so I google mapped it and it was literally the next block over to where I was staying. But it's a funny thing about some of the big cities in America like NY and Chicago, poverty and affluence often live side-by-side, literally. One side of the street will have a louis vitton store and you cross the road and it's a public housing ghetto. You keep your wits about you obviously but people generally both sides keep to themselves.

TBH I feel a lot safer walking around at night in big cities in America than I do in Melbourne.

 

[Taylor]

Guns are more lethal to children in the US than cars!!!!

And the US has a much worse crash rate than Australia.

You're right, that it's very unlikely, but it's still the leading cause of death for children in the US which is just insane.

That stat is correct when you include the seventeen year old gang members being killed by other gang members, that's why most of the firearm related deaths are homocides.

When you remove the young black men from the crime figures the USA actually compares quite closely to Canada. Their gang murders are a serious problem.

 

[DickieKnee]

Yep these are pics i took at walmart in 2019, guns and ammo one end, groceries at the other end, sorry about size of pics.

That last photo is guns in packaging obviously aimed at kids. FMD.

 

[Taylor]

That last photo is guns in packaging obviously aimed at kids. FMD.

Aren't they the BB guns?

 

[Magnum27]

NRA meeting coming up with Trump and other guests, below is the banned list.

NRA-ILA | President Donald J. Trump to Address NRA Members at the 2022 NRA Annual Meetings and Exhibits in Houston, Texas

Former President Donald J. Trump will headline the 2022 NRA-ILA Leadership Forum on May 27, at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston.

www.nraila.org

 

[owen87]

Aren't they the BB guns?

Get 'em hooked early

 

[Taylor]

Get 'em hooked early

Teaching them safety with something that isn't dangerous unless you get hit in the eye is more valuable than Australians getting scared by something that isn't a gun by their internal definition because of how it looks.

The reality is that there are more guns there than people, even if they stopped selling them all today the chances of a person coming across one in their life is very high.

 

[DickieKnee]

Aren't they the BB guns?

Most seem to be. Still you need a licence for an air rifle in Aus, and you'd never be able to package it obviously aimed at children.

 

[Taylor]

Most seem to be. Still you need a licence for an air rifle in Aus, and you'd never be able to package it obviously aimed at children.

I'd say the product itself is aimed at children, not just the packaging.

 

[Blue1980]

It's just ridiculous logic. Knife crime will go up if they ban guns, you can see evidence of that everywhere with sensible gun laws but it's not a reason to not have stronger gun control.

Pretty hard to kill 19 people in a mass knifing

 

[Taylor]

Pretty hard to kill 19 people in a mass knifing

Spot on. The firearms allow more dangerous force to be delivered. Particularly the hand guns because they can walk around with them unknown.

 

[sherb]

This is a bit partisan isn't it?

The answer to this of course is the Democrat who takes photos with the dead and then campaigns on it, but even with full control does nothing - so they can campaign on it again next time too.

Not to mention the heavy racist roots of gun control laws.

And I am intentionally trying to rustle your jimmies on that, but it's true. The greatest action on gun control has been as a reaction to the black activist groups possessing guns.

It doesn't work, I've long since given up taking what you write too seriously.

Carry on.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

I don't think any change to gun laws is really going to make much of a difference in the US. It's a cultural issue. They need to find a way to change the culture.

One thing that should be done is that shooters names should be anonymised, their names stricken from the record. Nobody should remember the name of the killer just the names of the victims.

 

[owen87]

Teaching them safety with something that isn't dangerous unless you get hit in the eye is more valuable than Australians getting scared by something that isn't a gun by their internal definition because of how it looks.

The reality is that there are more guns there than people, even if they stopped selling them all today the chances of a person coming across one in their life is very high.

Is that you Marjorie?

 

[owen87]

They need to find a way to change the culture.

They could start by doing something, anything.

Right now their politicians are simply accepting children being killed by guns as part of daily life.

Offer a few pleasantries, move on to the next mass shooting.

 

[Ballarat Bob]

The school district has its own police force , I think it was four officers plus one security guard. Not sure on where they are located in relation to the school though.
After the racial shooting the other week the gun nuts were saying that the offender travelled to that site because it was so hard to get a concealed carry license there.
They will find some way to spin this one again. The mental health card is pulled out every time. As for the god squad ducking hell ...wouldn't you start to question your religion if God was allowing all these mass shootings ?
The NRA has had its own internal issues over the last few years and I don't think it has the same membership or financial power that it did. Perversely this incident will probably strengthen it again as calls for firearms legislation will bring out the hard core 2nd amendment nut jobs.

 

[Blue1980]

The argument people will just use knives and fire if they don't have guns, makes as much sense as saying don't ban nuclear bombs cos if we do someone will still use grenades.

 

[Magnum27]

Spot on. The firearms allow more dangerous force to be delivered. Particularly the hand guns because they can walk around with them unknown.

Funny you should say that, my first trip to the US in 2015, i knew they had gun control issues, wife and i were on a local bus heading to a Walmart in Las Vegas , now i didn't see it but the wife commented when we got off the bus did you see the gun on that guys hip across the aisle from us, up until then i had not really thought about it, but it was a sobering thought to realise most people on that bus could have been carrying.

 

[owen87]

wouldn't you start to question your religion if God was allowing all these mass shootings ?

Never, it's too many people turning away from God that's causing this. More prayers required.

 

[Blue1980]

The school district has its own police force , I think it was four officers plus one security guard. Not sure on where they are located in relation to the school though.
After the racial shooting the other week the gun nuts were saying that the offender travelled to that site because it was so hard to get a concealed carry license there.
They will find some way to spin this one again. The mental health card is pulled out every time. As for the god squad ducking hell ...wouldn't you start to question your religion if God was allowing all these mass shootings ?
The NRA has had its own internal issues over the last few years and I don't think it has the same membership or financial power that it did. Perversely this incident will probably strengthen it again as calls for firearms legislation will bring out the hard core 2nd amendment nut jobs.

Gun sales always go up after a mass shooting, due to paranoia guns could be taken from them.

If one wanted to make a false flag theory, may as well claim it was staged by NRA to boost their coffers.

 

[Magnum27]

They could start by doing something, anything.

Right now their politicians are simply accepting children being killed by guns as part of daily life.

Offer a few pleasantries, move on to the next mass shooting.

Yep, they could actually make it harder for those buying a gun to start with rather than just showing your license.

 

[Gough]

Funny you should say that, my first trip to the US in 2015, i knew they had gun control issues, wife and i were on a local bus heading to a Walmart in Las Vegas , now i didn't see it but the wife commented when we got off the bus did you see the gun on that guys hip across the aisle from us, up until then i had not really thought about it, but it was a sobering thought to realise most people on that bus could have been carrying.

When I was in New Orleans in the 90s you could chose a gun from a small arsenal on sale but couldn't buy rolling papers because they were "drug paraphernalia".