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I’d keep the BBL I like the franchise style but it goes way too long. It’s at least 2 weeks too long. I’d just get rid of the 50 over and add another 5-6 shield games.
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I’d keep the BBL I like the franchise style but it goes way too long. It’s at least 2 weeks too long. I’d just get rid of the 50 over and add another 5-6 shield games.
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Tests should be banned in nsw
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BBL is not cricket,get a life.
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It’s a product. My system will increase the number of shield games that’s the main thing. ODI’s just feel we can do without and play the WC if needed
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So is my system,a combined 1 day/T20 format.At least we perhaps agree,love thoughts from other posters.
It's a strange world when a million people watching domestic cricket on TV every night is seen as a bad thing.
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the heck? What does 'format' even mean in this context?
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That list shows what i was getting at though.
Head green and lab are in the test side already.
Phillippe isnt getting picked ahead of carey and inglis unless he gives up gloves and plays bat only even then hes more likely for odi than tests.
Hunts technique is too loose and will get found out at test level (to be fair so is head and hes made it work).
Cartwright wont play tests again. Silk has the talent but is too inconsistent.
Jewell is miles off test level ward is the only one in that list who potentially could be good its too early to tell there.
Hence my comment that we dont have enough good young bats coming through.
I don't get why you're moaning - three of the top six of the test side being in their 20s is great for Australian cricket.
Your description of Hunt is the textbook definition of "promising" - making runs but has things he needs to work on. I'd rather a player like that in the top ten in the shield than have it filled with blokes in their mid 30s.
Having depth in the keeping department is also a positive. FWIW, Philippe has played as a specialist bat this summer, with Inglis keeping.
There are others, too. Bryce Street didn't make this cut off but is young enough and has time on his side. Matt Renshaw is still only 25, Kurtis Patterson is 28 - they've both had test experience and have a few years ahead of them.
You can go down to the Jake Fraser-McGurks or Jayden Goodwins, who have had a taste at a very young age, and hopefully have learned a bit about how to make the step up to first class cricket.
And you never know, the selectors might pull over out of their arse like they did with Marnus a few years back, despite averaging in the low 30s.
Good to see some kiddies on school holidays are helping out at ABC sport.
The ABC News today are reporting there have been two changes to each team for the 4th Ashes test in Sydney tomorrow.
Accordingly quote: "Ollie Robinson and Chris Woakes have been replaced by Stuart Broad and Ben Stokes and for Australia Usman Khawaja replaces Travis Head and (some unnamed bowler has also been selected) as Josh Hazelwood is out..!"
The ABC News today are reporting there have been two changes to each team for the 4th Ashes test in Sydney tomorrow.
Accordingly quote: "Ollie Robinson and Chris Woakes have been replaced by Stuart Broad and Ben Stokes and for Australia Usman Khawaja replaces Travis Head and (some unnamed bowler has also been selected) as Josh Hazelwood is out..!"
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We're not in as dire straights as England, but one should not mistakenly believe we are overflowing with loads of batting talent. There is enough to work with though, both in the immediate short term and for the future.
The top six isn't in too bad a shape now - especially in Australia where Warner is a big contributor and batting is easier for all concerned - and there are some decent enough bats in reserve. I would judge our batting in the best state it's been for about 7-8 years but that is not hard given some of the depths we plumbed.
Just thinking to how often we got rolled during the last decade. Well we have now had 26 consecutive completed innings without being bowled out for under 150. We fell over with 151 against India in Melbourne in 2018, but that's still 20 innings ago. In the previous 43 completed innings (back to 136 at Birmingham 2015) in ten of them we got bowled out for sub 150. Our current streak is the longest since 2004 to 2009 when we went roughly 70 innings without a sub 150. That story alone tells you we are heading in a much better direction than we once were.
For comparison England have been rolled for sub 150 in 13 of their last 52 completed innings.
In terms of the youngsters there is a bit of concern around Will Pucovoski and whether he can overcome his concussion issues. Him becoming a top line test cricketer is a huge part of our batting puzzle. Jason Sangha continuing to languish in Sheffield Shield mediocrity is hurting. He has all the hall marks of a top batsmen except the most important - scoring runs. It's starting to get pretty touch and go as to whether that's going to change.
We don't have loads of room for error with our young talent, but there is enough there to work with. Our top six, our immediate depth and our young talent are all in the best positions they've been since more or less 2014. It's trending in the right direction, but still some way to go.
The top six isn't in too bad a shape now - especially in Australia where Warner is a big contributor and batting is easier for all concerned - and there are some decent enough bats in reserve. I would judge our batting in the best state it's been for about 7-8 years but that is not hard given some of the depths we plumbed.
Just thinking to how often we got rolled during the last decade. Well we have now had 26 consecutive completed innings without being bowled out for under 150. We fell over with 151 against India in Melbourne in 2018, but that's still 20 innings ago. In the previous 43 completed innings (back to 136 at Birmingham 2015) in ten of them we got bowled out for sub 150. Our current streak is the longest since 2004 to 2009 when we went roughly 70 innings without a sub 150. That story alone tells you we are heading in a much better direction than we once were.
For comparison England have been rolled for sub 150 in 13 of their last 52 completed innings.
In terms of the youngsters there is a bit of concern around Will Pucovoski and whether he can overcome his concussion issues. Him becoming a top line test cricketer is a huge part of our batting puzzle. Jason Sangha continuing to languish in Sheffield Shield mediocrity is hurting. He has all the hall marks of a top batsmen except the most important - scoring runs. It's starting to get pretty touch and go as to whether that's going to change.
We don't have loads of room for error with our young talent, but there is enough there to work with. Our top six, our immediate depth and our young talent are all in the best positions they've been since more or less 2014. It's trending in the right direction, but still some way to go.
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Meanwhile I made the error of reading an Alan Ramsay on the CA site. Today he was yapping up Starc as a fine all rounder in the same breath as Keith Miller. In a series given to much hyperbole in the media this took the biscuit.
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yeah you're right but it's not panic stations just yet.
i'd like a few to be putting up their hand in the next year or so though.
the 2 keys for me are:
-it's important though that we have a few opening batsmen ready to go for when warner retires.
-it's important pucovski gets himself right.
we don't have a great deal of depth but if our best 12 or 13 are available at all times, we'll be ok for now (and while neser and boland have emerged, their time in the test arena won't be too fruitful as they are on the wrong side of 30).
if pucovski and green can become the players we all believe they can, and with warner's intentions to stick about for at least another 18 months, and with marnus and smith - you have 5 of the top 6 sorted already. carey is also an adequate #7.
head probably has the other spot for now and fair enough too, with usman, maddinson, harris around the mark. i'm happy to 'carry' one of these guys if the other 5 are always fit and available or even blood someone new.
the 4 bowlers sort themselves out, however with some sub continent tours coming up and the emergence of jhye, there may well be a changing of the guard in the next year or so. hazlewood, starc, boland, neser all into their 30's and history shows not many aussie quicks are playing at 35.
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I wasnt moaning i was just pointing out that you cant double count on a list of promising bats outside the test side guys who are already in it.
I do agree hunt has more chance to make it than 30yos because hes younger and has time to change his game i just dont rate what ive seen from him to date.
I like philippe but his obstacle in the past has been not getting regular shield games. Now thats fixed its interesting. The example of how the selectors handled wade indicates they probably wont pick philippe (we all know they love carey) unless he gives up the gloves for a while and bats in the top 4 at state level. I think hes a good chance to get in our t20 side soon but i doubt he gets in the test side.
A lot of the rest youve mentioned i dont rate except renshaw..hes an interesting one in that hes got real talent and is churning out runs despite a significant role change (opener to middle order) whether that counts against him (given the spots that will open up soon in the test side are the 2 openers) or whether hes seen to have the versatility to cover all spots in the top 6 like ussie who knows.
But i think that list shows while our batting depth isnt as bad as englands it certainly isnt great either. Pucovski is one talent who could really change that but obviously huge question marks over his body.
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When ABC Grandstand re-branded to ABC Sport they had a complete change in social media strategy whereby they went searching for engagement and essentially became LADbible. They stopped being a news and analysis source and started posting things like "which red-headed left hander from the 90s would you most like to have a beer with?"
The same Alan Ramsay that died in 2020?
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LMAO. You are comparing Head's technique to Hunts. Hunt has one of the most compact techniques in the shield.. comparable to Pucovski and the little known Tim Ward. You obviously missed his back to back tons on spicey tracks. Head's technique is way short of those three. As for Philippe only playing white ball. His two best shield scores this season were also made on lively decks. This kid has improved his red ball game out of site imo.
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Part (certainly not all) of the push for four day tests is because of the rule that was introduced to have three days minimum between matches. Five days, the a three day break, doesn't allow for a weekly schedule where matches start at the optimum day (usually Friday when there aren't holidays, etc, to consider).It hasn't been the 2nd for more than ten years
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From memory, the players wanted the extra day between tests, given the MCG test is scheduled to finish on the 30th. Either that or they wanted to have an extra day to recover from their NYE hangovers.
Its also why in the past 20 years or so we see so many Thursday starts, so the following game can start on the Friday rather than day one be a Saturday.
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Yeah odd description of Hunt as "loose" with his technique. Is the exact opposite. Compact and very solid defensively.
If anything it will be lack of run scoring avenues vs high class bowling that will prevent him from going to the next level.
If anything it will be lack of run scoring avenues vs high class bowling that will prevent him from going to the next level.
True, except the suggestion was to have them all start on Thursdays, with the scheduled finish on Sunday. Came from someone who, when wondering why there were usually *-all people there when a test match finished, was reminded that most people are at work on a weekday.
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Loving the batsman depth talk. Where is bigfootys former favourite some at? Jake Doran. I remember plenty wanting him in before he had played more than 5 FC games?
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Will Pucovski is exhibit A when it comes to the flaws in Cricket Australia's strategy of identifying a handful of top talents, putting all their resources into them and pretty much ignoring everyone else. It's worked out with Steve Smith and David Warner but sometimes you're going to run into unforeseen issues and potentially lose them to the game. There's no Plan B after that, that's why Marcus Harris is still out there.
Obviously much more tragic circumstances but Phil Hughes was kind of in that same boat, he'd be in the peak of his career right now if he'd come good.
This will continue though, they're not interested in putting any long term systems in place to naturally groom talent, they'll continue to focus on short term cash cows and earmark players here and there whilst crossing their fingers it all works out.
Obviously much more tragic circumstances but Phil Hughes was kind of in that same boat, he'd be in the peak of his career right now if he'd come good.
This will continue though, they're not interested in putting any long term systems in place to naturally groom talent, they'll continue to focus on short term cash cows and earmark players here and there whilst crossing their fingers it all works out.
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Big ask for Green to come in against a seaming new Kooka while he is still a novice at this level. CA may move him up one spot or down one or give him some more time back in Shield cricket to work on a few technical things. Mike Hussey says he needs to get his eye closer to the ball by playing it lower. Not so easy when you are 2m tall. Looks to me that he needs to be both more positive with his feet plus to defend with softer hands. Mr Cricket says he only takes a half step to the ball.
Before we demoralise the young giant by dumping him, we must remember that it takes time to hone dual disciplines. He has already missed three years of his career to injury, that is three years of learning.
Before we demoralise the young giant by dumping him, we must remember that it takes time to hone dual disciplines. He has already missed three years of his career to injury, that is three years of learning.
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Average of 100 odd as an opener is pretty handy
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