Biggest what-if in the AFL this decade

[fidstar]

What if this thread didn't become a discussion about racism?

 

[telsor]

"Why do you boo Adam Goodes?"
"Because he's a sniper"
"Why not Chris Judd?"
"Because Goodes also plays for free kicks"
"Why not Joel Selwood?"
"Because Goodes also did that provocative war dance"
"Why not Lewis Jetta?"
"Because Goodes is also all up himself"
"How so?"
"Because of his Australian of the Year speech"
"What does that have to do with the game?"
"I just don't like his attitude, that's all"
"Why don't you boo all the players that are outspoken off the field then?"
"I can choose who I want to boo"
"But some fans are clearly booing for racial reasons and Goodes and indigenous players have now also asked for it stop because of their belief that it's racially motivated now"
"I'm not racist, some might be, but I'm not, and I'll boo whoever I damn well please"
"But you get so damn offended when we criticise you then for throwing your lot in with the actual racists"
"Shut up you leftie snowflake"

That basically sums up the whole sordid affair.

They all got booed.

Goodes was a sook about it, and instead of accepting it was due to his behavior, instead insulted people calling them racist...So got booed more.

 

[Xtreme]

What if Hawthorn took Wallace instead of Clarko

Dear god!!!
Probably would have merged with Fremantle by now!!

He had done a pretty good job in the early years, and it was only injuries that caused the fade out in late 2014 that cost the Suns their first finals series, not failures in the coache
Alistair Clarkson couldn't have got the Hawks to the finals with an injury list that long. That no explanation was offered by the club for McKenna's dismissal made it all the more strange.

Umm Hawthorn had a pretty steep injury list in 2014. Even lost our head coach for a month. Still won the flag!!

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

What if Carlton never removed Brett Ratten from coaching and which resulted in us appointing the messiah in Malthouse who then went on to ruin the football club for a decade.

Ratten was a young developing coach who was learning, there is no doubt we prematurely sacked him, i think if we had have allowed him to naturally develop like Hardwick, Buckley etc then we would have achieved success and certainly wouldnt have become the basketcase we have been.

 

[Billy ray]

What if the suns were called the pirates.
and had a better jumper.
And colours.
and song.
And kids could dress as pirates when they attend.
and metricon stadium had more GA seating. and the empty seats you see on tv that cost upwards of $50 were just $25. and perhaps more full.
and the stadium had better transport and carparking so it wasn’t difficult to get to.

 

[Damon_3388]

At the risk of derailing the thread, what if that girl had never made derogatory comments to Adam Goodes.

Or what if he hadn’t have done the war dance?

The Adam Goodes saga was definitely the biggest AFL story this decade, Essendon drug saga, Phil Walsh tragedy come close, but the Goodes story has an international interest that the others didn’t.

Would be fascinating to see the view of fans of Goodes in a world where those events didn’t transpire.

I honestly can't remember a bad word said about him before that incident. Some revisionists acted like he was a long-hated villain of the league in the aftermath, though.

 

[winty]

What if Hawkins played in the Prelim

What if Blicavs played at full back on Lynch instead of on the wing?

 

[McOrist]

What if the umpire paid a free against Rioli for a block on Maynard with 2 mins left in the '18 GF?

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Not anyones fault your mates don't know about how much he does for the indigineous community though, is it?

"The Australian of the Year 2014, Adam Goodes, was honoured for his leadership and advocacy in the fight against racism both on the sporting field and within society - a stance which has won him the admiration and respect of people around Australia."

That is the first sentence on the AOTY website.

Girl does not say racist comment. Adam is not AOTY in 2014.

He may have been up for the honour post career for community work though but definitely not 2014.

 

[Macpotata]

If WCE hung on and beat Richmond and didn't lose to Hawthorn.


Geelong vs WCE Grand Final.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

What if people realised there is another year to go in this decade? Never heard or seen anyone count 1-10 starting with a zero.....

 

[telsor]

What if people realised there is another year to go in this decade? Never heard or seen anyone count 1-10 starting with a zero.....

It's like the millennium all over again.

Don't these people ever learn?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It's like the millennium all over again.

Don't these people ever learn?

Its quite disturbing how many think this year is the last of the decade.

 

[McOrist]

Its quite disturbing how many think this year is the last of the decade.

...then again, a decade is just a group of 10 years -doesn't matter where it starts. We are about to enter the 2020's or '20's. Would seem strange if the '20's started in 2021, making 2030 the last year of the '20's. Just sayin'!

 

[BruceTempany14]

What if Blicavs played at full back on Lynch instead of on the wing?

Lynch would’ve kicked 9 .

What if Rance played ?

Geelong supporters conveniently forget this .



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[Happy_Neale]

"The Australian of the Year 2014, Adam Goodes, was honoured for his leadership and advocacy in the fight against racism both on the sporting field and within society - a stance which has won him the admiration and respect of people around Australia."

That is the first sentence in the AOTY website.

Girl does not say racist comment. Adam is not AOTY in 2014.

He may have been up for the honour post career for community work though but definitely not 2014.

Are you aware of the amount of work he was doing in the community at time? Some more info:

Adam is known equally for his involvement and leadership within the Indigenous community. In 2009, Adam set up The Goodes-O'Loughlin Foundation (GO Foundation) with teammate Michael O'Loughlin. GO Foundation's vision is to create a brighter future for Indigenous children through education. In 2014, he joined the board of Supply Nation, a government-funded body aimed at growing the Indigenous business sector through the promotion of supplier diversity in Australia.
Adam’s work within the corporate world extends to advising large organisations such as David Jones and Lend Lease, on their Reconciliation Action Plans (RAP). He is also currently an ambassador for many prominent brands including Toyota, David Jones, Qantas and Woolworths. With the supermarket giant, he is a board member for Support Through Australia Natural Disasters (STAND), a disaster relief program founded by Woolworths and The Salvation Army.
Since retiring from AFL, Adam has been able to invest more time in the GO Foundation and his new business Indigenous Defence Consortium (IDC), which helps establish sustainable practices for Indigenous entrepreneurs.

Note this pre-dates the MCG incident. Seeing his AOTY as purely about the MCG incident is disingenuous at best.

 

[Damon_3388]

What if Blicavs played at full back on Lynch instead of on the wing?

What if Wylie Buzza had played instead of Lachie Henderson?

 

[russ]

What if the umpire paid a free against Rioli for a block on Maynard with 2 mins left in the '18 GF?

Or paid the initial high contact against Maynard on Rioli so Willie takes the set shot from there instead of Dom

 

[Mofra]

What if Buddy Franklin went to GWS (as expected) instead of to the Swans?

Sydney keep Mumford and don't have a trading ban applied to them. Potentially, they keep Tom Mitchell.
GWS structure their cap differently to fit Franklin in. Possibly trade out Patton earlier, as a Franklin / Cameron KPF duo would be the most potent in the competition.
COLA remains for both Sydney teams.

 

[winty]

How would have Daniel Menzel's career have turned out if he wasn't hit with 4 knee reconstructions?

Had kicked 5 goals against the Pies in the last round of 2011 as a 19yo, and had 2 on the board before he did his knee the first time in the 2nd term against Hawthorn in his first final. Then, after a 4 year hiatus, he ended up kicking 4 goals in his return match at senior level.

 

[ABSOLUTE MADMAN]

Are you aware of the amount of work he was doing in the community at time? Some more info:



Note this pre-dates the MCG incident. Seeing his AOTY as purely about the MCG incident is disingenuous at best.

Did you not read my comment?
I indicated he may have been up for that award down the line but definitely not 2014. I am aware of his community work.

He was not given AOTY for his community work. If you really wanted to talk about work in the community Goodes was never even a finalist for the Jim Stynes award in 2013 or 2014 and that is in the AFL alone.

If you really think he is AOTY in 2014 without the girl making the racist comment over the fence you are delusional.

They tell you directly on their site what it was about. You are in denial.

 

[yyou]

From a personal point of view: What if Morabito's knees weren't injured? He could have been anything in the game & the 2013 gf result may have been different

 

[Pistol Night]

What if Relton Roberts had grabbed a powerade and salad roll instaed of a bacon double cheeseburger an hour before the game? Would he still be on the list? Would Richmond be immortal by now? Talk about sliding doors.

 

[Captain_Bender]

What if Relton Roberts had grabbed a powerade and salad roll instaed of a bacon double cheeseburger an hour before the game? Would he still be on the list? Would Richmond be immortal by now? Talk about sliding doors.

Multiple Brownlow's of course

 

[Milanista28]

What if cy walsh wasn't a drug-f’ed mutt

I heard he's pretty close to release from his facility, that's nice for him.