News Brad Crouch to Saints (STK make offer; Band 3, ADL to match?)

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Ok.. im invested now. We know that to get Band 1 compensation (i.e. the infamous Pick 2) we need 95 pts.

I've created a spreadsheet based upon the numbers provided to determine the players salary as % of the competition. Taking into account Brad's +10 pts for being 26, the compensation table below:

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Going off articles/tables/BF thread, if Brad's salary is $600K+ salary, this would trigger a Band 1 compensation.

In short, EFF the Vic Media if they think $700K salary is insufficient for band 1! !
Remember - he has to be in the top 5% of players aged 25 and over. Did you account for that in your math?

I'm also not sure where you get the 95 pts thing from - has that been stated somewhere? I might have missed that.
 

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Remember - he has to be in the top 5% of players aged 25 and over. Did you account for that in your math?

I'm also not sure where you get the 95 pts thing from - has that been stated somewhere? I might have missed that.
Ohh... i missed that. Not sure where I would get that data from. Just going off by the tables that were previously linked here detailing total players and salary band allocation.
 

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I know you like to assume stuff and state it as fact, but the AFL's own explanation suggests you're wrong. For you to be right, you'll need to identify a club and year that proves the AFL ignores its own explanation. As simple and confusing as a single sentence can be. "Net total points"

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1970, I believe we've been through all this before. I think that the AFL policy is ambiguously worded and that the "nett" applies only if someone goes out and someone comes in. I think they have clarified that multiple outs are not netted. Otherwise, you could send a job lot of spud FAs out and nett to a high pick.
 

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Its happening.....:drunk:


HOW SAINTS WILL GET BIG CROWS DEAL DONE

Adelaide will take on a pair of fringe Saints in order to get better compensation for Brad Crouch, according to Garry Lyon.

Crouch is keen to move to St Kilda in free agency, and the Crows appear happy to allow him to walk - as long as they get a good enough draft pick, which will be based on the size of the deal Crouch signs at his new home.

The mooted deal would see Adelaide trade for Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan, in exchange for “steak knife” late draft picks, to take on their salaries and free up space at St Kilda.


The Saints in turn would pay Crouch slightly more money, ensuring Adelaide receives a first-round pick in compensation - which would be Pick 2 - rather than Pick 20 or worse if the compo fell to the end of the first round.

“St Kilda and the Crows got together for a deal RE: Brad Crouch to ensure Adelaide gets compensation pick number two,” Lyon said on SEN Breakfast, reading news from ‘his insider’.

“The thought is the money was not high enough to give him the compensation.

“Initially the Crouch money fell under the compensation to make it happen, so the Saints bumped up his wage to get the average over $700,000, originally $550,000, which wasn’t enough.


“In turn, the Crows will take both Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan in exchange for a set of steak knife, late draft choices.”




 

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HOW SAINTS WILL GET BIG CROWS DEAL DONE

Adelaide will take on a pair of fringe Saints in order to get better compensation for Brad Crouch, according to Garry Lyon.

Crouch is keen to move to St Kilda in free agency, and the Crows appear happy to allow him to walk - as long as they get a good enough draft pick, which will be based on the size of the deal Crouch signs at his new home.

The mooted deal would see Adelaide trade for Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan, in exchange for “steak knife” late draft picks, to take on their salaries and free up space at St Kilda.


The Saints in turn would pay Crouch slightly more money, ensuring Adelaide receives a first-round pick in compensation - which would be Pick 2 - rather than Pick 20 or worse if the compo fell to the end of the first round.

“St Kilda and the Crows got together for a deal RE: Brad Crouch to ensure Adelaide gets compensation pick number two,” Lyon said on SEN Breakfast, reading news from ‘his insider’.

“The thought is the money was not high enough to give him the compensation.

“Initially the Crouch money fell under the compensation to make it happen, so the Saints bumped up his wage to get the average over $700,000, originally $550,000, which wasn’t enough.


“In turn, the Crows will take both Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan in exchange for a set of steak knife, late draft choices.”




At this point I'd do it. Our list needs that pick 2.
Delist Mackay.
 

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At this point I'd do it. Our list needs that pick 2.
Delist Mackay.
Is jimmy Webster the saints version of Mackay? I can't say I've ever noticed, not that I mind picking him up if we net pick 2.
 

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You'd have teams avoiding getting later picks because they'd rather get just the pick after their first than 2 later picks. Like if GWS finished 3rd in the current situation, would you rather pick 2 or 16 and 17?
Seems a pretty unique circumstance though, you need two first round picks and a player leaving RFA
 

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Is jimmy Webster the saints version of Mackay? I can't say I've ever noticed, not that I mind picking him up if we net pick 2.
Hell, for pick 2, I'd be happy to re-draft Dean Gore.
 

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Remember - he has to be in the top 5% of players aged 25 and over. Did you account for that in your math?

I'm also not sure where you get the 95 pts thing from - has that been stated somewhere? I might have missed that.
This article talks about he system of ranking everyone between 0 and 100 then adding points for age. This would mean that Brads salary would need to be in the top 15% with 10 points added for his age taking to 95.
this is what I had used all year in assuming band 1 would be forthcoming, however there seems so many conflicting views that it’s impossible to be sure of the exact formula used.

 

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Its happening.....:drunk:


HOW SAINTS WILL GET BIG CROWS DEAL DONE

Adelaide will take on a pair of fringe Saints in order to get better compensation for Brad Crouch, according to Garry Lyon.

Crouch is keen to move to St Kilda in free agency, and the Crows appear happy to allow him to walk - as long as they get a good enough draft pick, which will be based on the size of the deal Crouch signs at his new home.

The mooted deal would see Adelaide trade for Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan, in exchange for “steak knife” late draft picks, to take on their salaries and free up space at St Kilda.

The Saints in turn would pay Crouch slightly more money, ensuring Adelaide receives a first-round pick in compensation - which would be Pick 2 - rather than Pick 20 or worse if the compo fell to the end of the first round.


“St Kilda and the Crows got together for a deal RE: Brad Crouch to ensure Adelaide gets compensation pick number two,” Lyon said on SEN Breakfast, reading news from ‘his insider’.

“The thought is the money was not high enough to give him the compensation.

“Initially the Crouch money fell under the compensation to make it happen, so the Saints bumped up his wage to get the average over $700,000, originally $550,000, which wasn’t enough.


“In turn, the Crows will take both Jimmy Webster and Luke Dunstan in exchange for a set of steak knife, late draft choices.”




That very low figure of $550K (which he is currently on) doesn't add up given the initial figure was around $600-650K (which seem more right), the Saints will just need to offer $750K not to trade it's as simple as that and why FA was brought in so the player can earn the money he wants.
 

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Is jimmy Webster the saints version of Mackay? I can't say I've ever noticed, not that I mind picking him up if we net pick 2.
Is a somewhat injury prone slightly more attacking version of Kelly
 

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Is a somewhat injury prone slightly more attacking version of Kelly
Is jimmy Webster the saints version of Mackay? I can't say I've ever noticed, not that I mind picking him up if we net pick 2.
Sounds like a comic book character
 

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speaking of which, what if the AFL are negotiating with us NOT to bid on JUH before giving us pick 2?
If we dont get Pick 2, we bid on the night for JUH no matter what to make an absolute mockery of the draft. (aside from the benefits of making the Dogs pony up)
 
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