Opinion Brian Cook - Carlton's rebuild still has a fair way to go

[Opine]

Its good of you to acknowledge that our club will still be around then

I was being cheeky. You’re club will be fine. I think it’s in vgood hands on-field. It’s done a fine job navigating its way out of difficulty thus far. The next 2 years might be tough but that’s just the system

 

[Kangaroo Cat]

I was being cheeky. You’re club will be fine. I think it’s in vgood hands on-field. It’s done a fine job navigating its way out of difficulty thus far. The next 2 years might be tough but that’s just the system

Ha so was i, it is nice to see our two clubs finally doing a few things right though

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Since when did Melbourne become a powerhouse? Lol pretty certain North have more members than them.

 

[nacnud]

Lol pretty certain North have more members than them.

^ He has missed.

 

[Mr.X]

There's some real positive vibes coming out of Carlton at the moment which appears to set the club up nicely for a really solid 2022.

We always see a team take big strides after a solid off-season, and every year has a side move from mid-range to finals, or in some cases, contenders.

Carlton appear to have all the ingredients in place for a real solid 2022.

i think with Voss providing a different lens, and driving higher standards, Carlton is pretty well setup to be 2022's big improver.

 

[Crashy]

Guaranteed premiers!

 

[Baird]

Wouldn't suprise me, if Cripps gets back to his best then they have 4 of the best players in the league

 

[aussierulesrules]

They could be, but losing Jones cancels out a huge chunk of the acquisition of Cerra, so that’s a big, big blow.

My other query on how much scope for improvement they have is that Walsh is already a guy who got 30 Brownlow votes this year, McKay is already a guy who won the Coleman, and Wietering is already a guy who’s firmly in the AA conversation, so it’s not like any of those 3 are likely to be miles better next year, and help propel them up the ladder.

I guess now that Jones going cancels out a lot of the Cerra gains, a lot of their hopes for big improvement- from an individual POV at least- rest with Cripps and C Curnow.

If either of those two (or both) get right back their best, and play most of the year in that form, then they could indeed take a sizeable jump up the ladder.

They’re certainly not the only team that could though. Wouldn’t surprise me if any of the teams who finished 10th to 13th took a sizeable jump up the ladder next year.

 

[bzparkes]

Sure, why not?

A broken clock is correct twice a day after all.

 

[Malifice]

They could be, but losing Jones cancels out a huge chunk of the acquisition of Cerra, so that’s a big, big blow.

My other query on how much scope for improvement they have is that Walsh is already a guy who got 30 Brownlow votes this year, McKay is already a guy who won the Coleman, and Wietering is already a guy who’s firmly in the AA conversation, so it’s not like any of those 3 are likely to be miles better next year

Agree with the Jones comment (massive hole for us, with no real obvious contenders to replace him) but not so sure about your second point.

Walsh in particular has only been in the system 3 years (including the COVID shortened one) for 61 games. Virtually all players don't really peak till 100+ games.

Weitering yeah I couldnt ask for more, but I still see improvement in McKays game as well.

For us next year, its the big what ifs of 'new coach and game plan' (which will be radically different) combined with how we deal with Jones absence, and if any of our younger blokes (Stocker, Kemp, Dow, LOB etc) improve or continue to, and if Cripps can get back to his best.

 

[WillHayward]

They could be, but losing Jones cancels out a huge chunk of the acquisition of Cerra, so that’s a big, big blow.

My other query on how much scope for improvement they have is that Walsh is already a guy who got 30 Brownlow votes this year, McKay is already a guy who won the Coleman, and Wietering is already a guy who’s firmly in the AA conversation, so it’s not like any of those 3 are likely to be miles better next year, and help propel them up the ladder.

I guess now that Jones going cancels out a lot of the Cerra gains, a lot of their hopes for big improvement- from an individual POV at least- rest with Cripps and C Curnow.

If either of those two (or both) get right back their best, and play most of the year in that form, then they could indeed take a sizeable jump up the ladder.

They’re certainly not the only team that could though. Wouldn’t surprise me if any of the teams who finished 10th to 13th took a sizeable jump up the ladder next year.

Who finished 10th?

Not sure a 31yo Liam Jones is a central pillar to the Blues success

 

[RUNVS]

They are Carlton.

 

[M Malice]

It's a conundrum for me, I'd love to see Vossy be successful but not the Blues, I suppose it would be OK with me if they made the Grand Final and we beat them by 120 points.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Who finished 10th?

The team who finished 5th the year before, but had the hardest draw in the comp this year (all 10 double-up games against teams who were in the 8 at the time they played them each time), mixed with the worst injury run (most games missed by best 22), sub-par fitness and some horrific form and confidence lapses. Would hardly be a surprise to see a bounce back up the ladder. Especially if King continues on with his late-season form.

Don’t personally see West Coast (who finished 9th) being a big climber, with Kennedy and Hurn being so old now. But that’s just my opinion.

If you have a different opinion, that’s what you’re here to post.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Not sure a 31yo Liam Jones is a central pillar to the Blues success

I guess you haven’t been paying too much attention then.

 

[Malifice]

Who finished 10th?

Not sure a 31yo Liam Jones is a central pillar to the Blues success

Say what you want about Jones, but he was a borderline AA CHF.

 

[RAPPA]

Highly doubt it. There has been significant change in the off season - new CEO, new coach, assistant coaches fundamentally replaced, Jones going. No expectations.

 

[yyou]

few years too late for breakout

 

[Toump Ass]

The team who finished 5th the year before, but had the hardest draw in the comp this year (all 10 double-up games against teams who were in the 8 at the time they played them each time), mixed with the worst injury run (most games missed by best 22), sub-par fitness and some horrific form and confidence lapses. Would hardly be a surprise to see a bounce back

Rubbish. It would be a massive surprise to see Saint Kilda make the eight. Absolutely massive.

Because Saint Kilda are not a good team. They are a s**t team and if they were not a s**t team they would have made finals this year and you wouldn’t need to make lame excuses about the fixture. But they didn’t make the finals and anyone who knew anything about football could see that Saint Kilda missing finals in 2021 was always going to happen. Always.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

Blues supporters would be spewin if they finished with 8 or less wins. Would be good if they got a couple more wins than last year, may have them only just miss out on playing finals.

 

[Power Raid]

I'm predicting, two and two, come round four

 

[BigPond101]

I think it will be St Kilda

 

[V_23]

Inb4 this thread gets bumped after every Carlton loss in 2022...

 

[RUNVS]

Inb4 this thread gets bumped after every Carlton loss in 2022...

Would have been much better if this thread was created by a non-Carlton supporter. Creating a thread on the main board talking your own team up never ends well.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Rubbish. It would be a massive surprise to see Saint Kilda make the eight. Absolutely massive.

Because Saint Kilda are not a good team. They are a sh*t team and if they were not a sh*t team they would have made finals this year and you wouldn’t need to make lame excuses about the fixture. But they didn’t make the finals and anyone who knew anything about football could see that Saint Kilda missing finals in 2021 was always going to happen. Always.

Lol, and you reckon my post was rubbish.

You’re head’s gotten so big since the team you happen to barrack for won the flag I imagine you need to get new doors cut in your house to fit it through them.

Imagine how intolerably floggish you’d be if you actually did something of significance personally!