Geelong 2007-2017

[Off The Couch]

Most rabble think that grand finals are the best judge of success. Thats rubbish, most top four finishes after home and away games are played is where its at.

So why bother with finals or is that just another money making spin off

 

[pluggeranddoc]

Most rabble think that grand finals are the best judge of success. Thats rubbish, most top four finishes after home and away games are played is where its at.
I get it now.
On this Basis Ross Lyon is indeed a master-coach!

Very pleased with yet another successful year and hoping for at least one more top four before we lose a few more to retirements, go cats.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Great record. As far as precedent, Dees went top four every year from 1954-1964 inclusive (less teams though) and won six flags.

If Melbourne won a couple of Premierships in the next couple of years - their golden era of 6 flags which you alluded to - and the players who comprised it - would get alot more publicity and acknowledgement now and deservedly so - its just their been so ordinary for so long .

 

[The 747]

There is certainly a question of finals fragility especially from 2012 onwards but the H&A record is quite outstanding - pity it doesn't count for much at the end of the day.

I am impressed we are top 4 with our current list which really isn't very good.

 

[Rotayjay]

Geelong supporters starting main board threads to talk themselves up ... now that's unprecedented

 

[Heaps of fun]

Clearly the second best team in that timeframe. Well Done.

 

[Randall Stevens]

Geelong's sustained run in the top part of the ladder has been remarkable, no doubt.
However there have been far greater achievements and examples of sustained success over the history of the VFL / AFL using other, more significant measures of success.

For example both Collingwood (1927 - 36) and Melbourne (1955-64) won six premierships within ten year windows.
Richmond won 4 from 8 between 1967 and 1974, and as mentioned Hawthorn 4 flags between 2008 and 2015, Hawthorn also having won 5 flags in 9 years from 1983 to 1991.

The argument against those old achievements is always that there were fewer teams, no salary cap etc. Which I accept, but also note that at least in theory, other clubs in those eras had the same opportunity to build amazing records. For example, what was to stop the other 11 clubs getting to the level of Melbourne in the 50's? If it was simply that Melbourne was by far the best run Club, best coached and looked after its players the best, then the inability of their competitors to match them does not diminish their achievement.

I reiterate that Geelong have had a fantastic era, and have stayed close to the top despite almost completely turning over the 2007 flag team. However, to me unprecedented means best ever, and their era is not that.

 

[Duskfire]

The Sydney/GWS of the world have too much depth for the Cats IMHO.

For a team that has no depth Geelong has done quite well with the six or so injuries they have at the moment. I agree with you about GWS though - insane depth

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

You'd take the 4 flags, but in reality it was a quarter of football where the underdogs found some luck. Compared to two entire years of not finishing top 4.

Hawthorn were really lucky to achieve what they did.

Yeah, because when Geelong win they are FANTASTIC, but when Hawthorn win, they are just lucky. Typical crap Geelong logic. Get a clue.

 

[King Cold]

It's pretty clear which team has been the best over the last 11 years.

Top 2 finishes 2007-2017:

Geelong - 8
Hawthorn - 4
Adelaide - 2
Collingwood - 2
Sydney - 2
Fremantle - 1
Port Adelaide - 1
St Kilda - 1
West Coast - 1

 

[demondavey]

Ok so this has turned into another Geelong v Hawthorn debate. Great. We get it. Hawthorn are good, Geelong are good.

 

[demondavey]

It's pretty clear which team has been the best over the last 11 years.

Top 2 finishes 2007-2017:

Geelong - 8
Hawthorn - 4
Adelaide - 2
Collingwood - 2
Sydney - 2
Fremantle - 1
Port Adelaide - 1
St Kilda - 1
West Coast - 1

Over the last 11 years Hawthorn have won 4 flags, Geelong have won 3. Hawthorn won 3 in a row. Hawthorn are better. Top 4 means stuff all if you can't convert.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

It's pretty clear which team has been the best over the last 11 years.

Top 2 finishes 2007-2017:

Geelong - 8
Hawthorn - 4
Adelaide - 2
Collingwood - 2
Sydney - 2
Fremantle - 1
Port Adelaide - 1
St Kilda - 1
West Coast - 1

Premierships 2007-2017
Hawthorn 4
Geelong 3
Sydney 1
Collingwood 1
Western Bulldogs 1

If Geelong win the flag, then that could be said about them, until then though....

 

[Old Man Jenkins]

Hard to respect Geelong because they cheat.

 

[chickentendies]

I think its very good, with a bit of tweaking they'll grow to Hawthorn's level and win 4 flags in 10 years.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

So why bother with finals or is that just another money making spin off

Are you completely incapable of understanding when someone's taking the piss?

 

[God Mode]

It's certainly a good effort, but 4 flags beats 3 in the end. Can't argue with it whatsoever. Still, I'm happy with 3

 

[kickazz]

It's pretty clear which team has been the best over the last 11 years.

Top 2 finishes 2007-2017:

Geelong - 8
Hawthorn - 4
Adelaide - 2
Collingwood - 2
Sydney - 2
Fremantle - 1
Port Adelaide - 1
St Kilda - 1
West Coast - 1

Geez 8 times top 2. That is outstanding. Basically means at least two finals in Victoria each year.

One wonders how I've had any money left for spring racing carnival after constantly ponying up for finals tickets.

 

[Furn2]

And yet still just a footnote of the Hawthorn dynasty.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Clearly the second best team in that timeframe. Well Done.

Where would you rate North's efforts?

 

[Buddyball]

What is the point of a team finish consistently in the top 4, when you don't win a premiership. I would rather take a team who wins one premiership and a few wooden spoons within the last 10 years, rather than a team who consistently finishes top two, but doesn't win any premiership.
Even though geelong has been more consistent in the last 10 years, no one's going to remember that they finished in the top 2 eight times. Greatness is in the number of premierships you have won.

 

[kickazz]

The insecure faction of the hawk brigade are out in force again I see.....

 

[99cents]

Hard to respect Geelong because they cheat.

Winning is a form of cheating the odds

 

[Heaps of fun]

Where would you rate North's efforts?

7th.

 

[PhatBoy]

Hard to respect Geelong because they cheat.

Hard to respect Adelaide because their fans have the collective IQ of a urinal cake.

And their team has been perpetually shit for most of the last 20 years.