The Breust/Gunston debate is an interesting one. Do Hawthorn trade them out, losing much needed experience for a rebuilding side in order to get pretty good draft picks, or do they keep them, and as a result bring in young players a bit more slowly.
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The Breust/Gunston debate is an interesting one. Do Hawthorn trade them out, losing much needed experience for a rebuilding side in order to get pretty good draft picks, or do they keep them, and as a result bring in young players a bit more slowly.
The Breust/Gunston debate is an interesting one. Do Hawthorn trade them out, losing much needed experience for a rebuilding side in order to get pretty good draft picks, or do they keep them, and as a result bring in young players a bit more slowly.
Except Clarko has 4 flags.
And its mostly Geelong supporters. Not sure why. 1989. 2008. 2013.
The Hawk supporters I suspect are young and dont remember our 1992 to 2007 drought.
This has to be the worst possible season to tank though since the draft will be even more of a lucky dip than usualBingo.
This is a nothing season.
Wowee we are!Wowee Hawthorn are sh*t!
Clarko's antics have disappointed me this year.
I thought he had matured and outgrown that little hot-headed bloke that punches desks and walls (he still would have been in is 40's when he was carrying on like that)
The past success has gone to his head and he really thinks he can turn water into wine.
He just doesn't have the stomach to see through a rebuild in earnest.
My personal view on Ross Lyon is I will always respect his 8 years at freo from 2012-19. Unlike the Saints, I have no animosity towards Ross Lyon. Him getting sacked in 2019 was probably the right year to say goodbye to him. You can make a case for either scenario for him to leave a year earlier in 2018 or a year later in 2020.As painful and deluded as Hawthorn supporters are, the 2010s Hawks were just an excellent footy team. Rosco cops the double banger because he never won a flag (though got as close as you possibly could) and he has a reputation for coaching low scoring, negative footy. He had Riewoldt, Koschitzke, Schneider, Milne and naturally attacking mids like Goddard, Dal Santo and Gram and had them scoring 60 odd in finals. Could you imagine a team with Franklin, Roughead, Gunston, Breust, Rioli etc. being coached to turn games into a 70 v 60 grind? What a waste.
Hawks at least have pick 3.This has to be the worst possible season to tank though since the draft will be even more of a lucky dip than usual
Are they genuinely underperforming, or are they more supply-reliant and teammate-reliant than we realised?
I feel like with a lot of forwards at the moment, they're restrained by their delivery, and the way the game is played today.
The Hawks definitely need something more dynamic in the midfield, to give their forwards the best chance possible. Mitchell/O'Meara/Worpel/Shiels is pretty workmanlike and samey. Isaac Smith isn't what he once was, and James Cousins provides a point of difference, but IMO a permanent move to the middle for Chad Wingard will unlock a lot more attacking opportunities for Hawthorn.
Oh well, it augers well for a another 4 flags from the early 2030s onwards then!Not even the fastest decline in Hawthorns history
Finished 2nd last in 1995 4 years after winning the 1991 flag (5 flags in 9 years)
Pick me pick meEh, if you offered any supporters 4 flags in the next 7 years, with the catch that you’ll be mediocre for the decade following, there isn’t anyone who wouldn’t take it.
We are no good. But it was worth it
Eh, if you offered any supporters 4 flags in the next 7 years, with the catch that you’ll be mediocre for the decade following, there isn’t anyone who wouldn’t take it.
We are no good. But it was worth it
well the hawks need to win another flag by 2029 as they have that streak of winning at least one per decade since the 1960sOh well, it augers well for a another 4 flags from the early 2030s onwards then!
You need elite talent to win flags, chances of drafting 3-4 elite talent in a small sample of drafts with picks in the range of 15-20 would almost be zero in today's recruiting era.
Hawks had 3 options. Become a mid table team like the bombers, tank to the bottom to get high draft picks or gamble on previously high rated talent at other clubs. They chose to gamble, now they are at the bottom anyway and can start drafting elite talent.
Eh, if you offered any supporters 4 flags in the next 7 years, with the catch that you’ll be mediocre for the decade following, there isn’t anyone who wouldn’t take it.
We are no good. But it was worth it