Is John Howard Australias worst PM ever ?

[kranky al]

Yes and vast numbers of people who want to work are being forced in to poverty by the government.

Oh do go on

tell us more....

 

[JackOutback]

 

[Nathan32]

Illegally invaded a sovereign nation for no clear purpose resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children.

You're welcome.

You don't know what the word illegal means either probably.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who gassed his own people and financially supported terrorism.

 

[kranky al]

You don't know what the word illegal means either probably.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who gassed his own people and financially supported terrorism.

Been rather a lot of them.

interesting that out of all of them we picked just this particular one for regime change.

Oil be buggered if i know why though?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

You don't know what the word illegal means either probably.

I love the way you attempt heavy-handed put-downs of other peoples' knowledge and only end up displaying your own ignorance to the whole wide world.

The United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan stated in September 2004 that: "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it [the war] was illegal", explicitly declaring that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal.

Political leaders of the US and UK have claimed that the war was legal; however, legal experts, including John Chilcot, who, acting as chairman for the British public inquiry into Iraq, also known as the Iraq Inquiry, led an investigation with hearings from 24 November 2009 to 2 February 2011, concluded that the process of identifying the legal basis for the invasion of Iraq was unsatisfactory.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who gassed his own people and financially supported terrorism.

No argument there, but no excuse to destroy an entire country.

And of course terrorism has completely receded worldwide since then, hasn't it?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Made life worse for New Zealanders. Harder to get permanent residency and thus citizenship so they're ****ed when they need healthcare or are unemployed.

 

[Kram]

Made life worse for New Zealanders.

And this is a bad thing how?

 

[Hawk Dork]

Lets add aged care to his list of utter failures


Ever since the Howard government reformed the sector in 1996 it has become a magnet for big business and standards and conditions have deteriorated.

Howard introduced the Aged Care Act, 1997, slashed $1 billion from the aged care budget, reduced government monitoring and removed requirements for a set proportion of government subsidies to be spent on patient care while also reducing the requirement for a set number of qualified staff.

Since then US-based corporations, private equity firms, new foreign investors, and property real estate investment trusts entered the residential aged care market attracted by substantial government subsidies.

Profit over people: It's time to put aged care in public hands Profit over people: It's time to put aged care back in public hands

Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck doesn’t accept a difference between private and public aged care in the spread of COVID. He's wrong.

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[Malifice]

Howard introduced the Aged Care Act, 1997, slashed $1 billion from the aged care budget, reduced government monitoring and removed requirements for a set proportion of government subsidies to be spent on patient care while also reducing the requirement for a set number of qualified staff.

Since then US-based corporations, private equity firms, new foreign investors, and property real estate investment trusts entered the residential aged care market attracted by substantial government subsidies.

Deregulate everything and palm it off to private industry to police themselves.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Gough]

But hey, he looked great walking round Sydney Harbour in a Wallabies tracksuit.

 

[NSWCROW]

Still abbott

 

[Hawk Dork]

Still abbott

He didnt have the time to do the damage he dreamed off Howard did and Had Abbott as one of the chief saboteurs

 

[Leeda]

geez .. stamp my feet... raise my fists... and smile ... can't be all that bad..

 

[medusala]

Absurd thread.

ScoMo on track to overtake Gough. Gillard will have to settle for bronze.

But hey, he looked great walking round Sydney Harbour in a Wallabies tracksuit.

Yeah no Islamic terrrorism pre Iraq. How to spit in the face of Bali bombing victims.

#classy

 

[Norwegian Blue]

But hey, he looked great walking round Sydney Harbour in a Wallabies tracksuit.

If Wilkie actually said that, he's a ******* idiot. The Bali bombing happened in 2002 BEFORE the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

 

[Rob R]

But hey, he looked great walking round Sydney Harbour in a Wallabies tracksuit.

Yet the Bali bombing was before the Iraq war and Monis (who was more attention seeker violent nutter than a terrorist) focussed on Afghanistan not Iraq.

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[Johnny Bananas]

We've had slimier pr*cks, like Scummo. We've had worse economic vandals, like Abbott. But what set Howard apart was being so slimy and so prone to economic vandalism for so long. The net effect was far worse than any other PM because he carried on this crap for more than a decade.

 

[DaRick]

If Wilkie actually said that, he's a ******* idiot. The Bali bombing happened in 2002 BEFORE the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

I thought there were multiple Bali bombings?

I agree that the quote is a bit misleading, though.

 

[Bradesmaen]

I thought there were multiple Bali bombings?

I agree that the quote is a bit misleading, though.

Wilkie blames terror threat on Australia's Iraq War involvement

Australian political leaders have "blood on their hands", according to independent MP and former intelligence officer Andrew Wilkie, who has spoken out in the wake of the Chilcot inquiry.

www.abc.net.au

Clearly he was talking about the 2005 one as mentioned in the article.

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[DaRick]

We've had slimier pr*cks, like Scummo. We've had worse economic vandals, like Abbott. But what set Howard apart was being so slimy and so prone to economic vandalism for so long. The net effect was far worse than any other PM because he carried on this crap for more than a decade.

Howard for the most part kind of illustrates the issues with modern conservatism.

Looking to preserve the status quo if at all possible even though societal needs change constantly, leading to government being behind the times and thus unable to tackle contemporary challenges, which causes slow societal decay because current societal needs are neglected. Long-term neglect stunts and eventually kills.

Wilkie blames terror threat on Australia's Iraq War involvement

Australian political leaders have "blood on their hands", according to independent MP and former intelligence officer Andrew Wilkie, who has spoken out in the wake of the Chilcot inquiry.

www.abc.net.au

Clearly he was talking about the 2005 one as mentioned in the article.

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Thought as much, though most people associate Bali with 2002.

 

[HairyO]

Wilkie blames terror threat on Australia's Iraq War involvement

Australian political leaders have "blood on their hands", according to independent MP and former intelligence officer Andrew Wilkie, who has spoken out in the wake of the Chilcot inquiry.

www.abc.net.au

Clearly he was talking about the 2005 one as mentioned in the article.

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Wilkie is a moron if he actually said this. The idea that Islamic terrorists only started hating the West after the Iraq war is just plain stupid.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Wilkie is a moron if he actually said this. The idea that Islamic terrorists only started hating the West after the Iraq war is just plain stupid.

No, but in relation to Australia there is a higher chance of that. Islamic terrorists have always hated the USA, Australia is a little nothing but as soon as we join in with the US we become a target.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Howard is the father of all the *******s that followed so I guess to a degree he is. Comes down to do you judge him on his cancerous legacy or by his actual on the job ability. By that I of course am referring to his ability to bullshit his way through the job. If it's the second measure he laps the Liberal field because his offspring were useless and only carried by a piss weak media. He could stand in front of microphone and bore people to death stammering through very boring lies. Scomo is basically trump without the childish insults.

 

[HairyO]

No, but in relation to Australia there is a higher chance of that. Islamic terrorists have always hated the USA, Australia is a little nothing but as soon as we join in with the US we become a target.

Indonesians terrorists dont hate us because we ally with the US. They hate us because we are not Muslims and are on their border and want religious freedoms and being allowed to be gay or female.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Indonesians terrorists dont hate us because we ally with the US. They hate us because we are not Muslims and are on their border and want religious freedoms and being allowed to be gay or female.

This should be in the what were the Obamas doing in Indonesia when Suharto took over thread