Cat B so a bonus if he kicks on, or there’s another capable replacement.
Owies last year so a decision needs to be made on him.
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Cat B so a bonus if he kicks on, or there’s another capable replacement.
Owies last year so a decision needs to be made on him.
I think it's sound list management, neither would cost us much
My kingdom for a couple of KPPs
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It's way early in the season to be doing this, but...
Would leave us with a full rookie list, a spare Rookie B slot, and 4 Senior list spots open. Which is about right.
Would leave us with a full rookie list, a spare Rookie B slot, and 4 Senior list spots open. Which is about right.
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There was nothing strange about re-signing Pittonet on a two year deal. It was the obvious move, and the correct one.
You've really got to find a way to move on from the Pittonet hatred. It's unhealthy and frankly embarrassing.
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For sure, hope he develops through the year - but from where we sit now, it's a real possibility.
On his output last year, Jimmae is right, 2yrs was surprising. He has proven to be an admirable performer this season & much improved.
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He was our number 1 ruck last year and we weren't going out and looking for an immediate upgrade. How was 2 years a surprise? It was never going to be anything but.
Certainly has improved but I doubt Jim will even acknowledge that. Still suggests to drop him every time he posts team changes.
Could have easily been delisted IMO, thought he was very ordinary last season, and room to improve in our ruck dept.
A good clubman but had there been others of interest that may have been gettable, then all for going them I.e. STK for Xerri (we were supposedly interested in his draft year but took Schumacher in front of him, with TDK the ruckman much earlier).
Club review with the noted sloppy coaching setup prevailed for another chance for a few, which is turning out a good decision.
Edit. And could have easily just been the 1yr extension just like Newman.
I think it has since come out he was playing injured.
People carry on as if Pittonet is in his early 30's who lumbers around being a journeyman with nothing more to give.
He was a project ruckman who debuted at 24, and is still only 25. He will keep improving the more he plays.
2 years was and is fine.
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May be out of our hands. If he can't justifiably secure a spot in the senior side by the end of the season then he'll have suitors. If that's the case, then we just need to hope that his reserves form and occasional senior games are strong, and we can potentially get something in the vicinity of a late first (optimistic) or early second (more realistic) in return.
If he phones it in for the second half of the year it could be more similar to the SPS trade
Mind you, Young for SPS worked in our favour.
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Realistically, this was never going to happen.
A good clubman who we clearly brought over with the intention of developing into our long-term number 1 ruck.
He's no superstar in that role, but he's proving to be very serviceable.
Newman is 29 with his best footy behind him.
Pittonet is still young and inexperienced for a ruck. He was never getting a one year deal, and a two year deal is hardly crippling.
There's a big difference between the two.
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On stocker and williams, we can agree to disagree. It will come to fruition by seasons end and either I’ll be wrong or you’ll be wrong.
On TDK, he’s currently our forward and relief Ruck the same way Luke Jackson was last season for Melbourne. Now I’m not saying we are winning the premiership but you have to agree that, if we do have a finals run, then the perception of TDK around the league will change and clubs will come sniffing around the same way they are doing so with Jackson.
With the contract stuff, my point is that we’ve already seen 3 players blossom in this system who were down last season in setters, obi and Kennedy to some extent. so players like marchy, cunners and some others who are on a bit of coin will have a chance to blossom in it too. This will create salary problems when tdk, harry, Charlie, gov and kemp come out too. We already have massive deals on weiters, crippa, now Walsh, williams, saad and cerra.
So big decisions are going to have to be made eventually and if there’s a player from all the players I have mentioned that we should perhaps dangle around other clubs now before they come circling then it’s Williams for me. It could be someone else for you but the more successful we get the more clubs will come around the same way they came and dismantled our entire team from 2011 when we had cap issues then. Whether we front load and back load or restructure, it won’t matter when that one year comes and we won’t be able to manipulate the books anymore.
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He's cat B so unless he's completely rubbish you'd think there's no reason to move him on.
Interested to see what become of Owies as his Cat B status is at an end this year. It's either delist or put on main list.
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That's what I said. But later.
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Just a grey area. Pretty sure rules were amended during Covid protocols allowing players to be placed directly on to rookie list. May not be regarded as a delisting. Splitting hairs, but was a risk free management tool.
OK Bam Bam is listed on article, so wishful thinking it would seem.
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Didn't Pittonet miss the last 9 games last year with an ankle? Surely you take that into account when you judge his season.
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Not sure how our team was dismantled after 2011? We started 2012 3 and 0 and we were one of the flag favourites then we hit the drug filled * in round 4.
Can't remember any significant player losses between the two seasons (apologies if incorrect)
Going to be interesting. Not rocket science, we need to draft a KPD and acquire a key forward, perhaps even two. Ideally a youngster through the draft and a semi mature overager or listed player not getting opportunity.
The early phantom draft lists have Busslinger and not much else on exposed form as key defenders.
The club “oversubscribed” for young keys is actually North. Xerri basically assumed first ruck from Goldy already. Larkey the lead player. Recruited Callum Coleman-Jones from Tigers, perhaps with some off field baggage. Club loves Charlie Comben who has struggled with injury and is now in a logjam. Then there is prized mid season draft ruck forward Jacob Edwards.
Someone is going to miss out from that group.
The other interesting “mature” player is Jacob Koschitzke from the Hawks who looked the next big thing under Clarko. Recruited as a defender, promising as a forward, but played more ruck against our seconds. Was touted as a “Clarkson man” when all the carry on was happening last year. May be on the outer.
I am more than happy to go to the draft and run with Lewis Young and Oscar McDonald along with our “third talls”, but there needs to be a suitable player at our pick(s). Hopefully OMac does not experience ongoing back issues going forward. These next two drafts will be critical to fill holes and add better balance to our list. The right additions will all but ensure a dynasty for a decade or more.
Unless it's a reach and or overpaying trade wise, I would target 3 talls. A KPD, KPP and a KPF/Ruckman
We have plenty mids, flankers, 3rd talls
A forward/ruck would be ideal, but not essential. I have little doubt Mirkov will be a player next season. We will have a three way battle for ruck spots. We also have Young and even OMac who are capable or better. JSOS still that chop out option. A young forward ruck would be a good investment and there are a couple of prospects. Some think the Cats will court TDK, Pitto may consider options if he loses the battle for number one. Another developing type would make excellent sense.
We are a bit at the mercy of what emerges for the draft. So far looking like another midfield and flanker dominated version, with a couple of potential high end talls. We have similar views what is required, but we need to ensure that we take quality long term pieces rather than grabbing a wildly speculative type or a compromise option.
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Failing to see how wanting a different selection is tantamount to hatred. That's an unhealthy perspective.
Debatable given TDK's finish to the season. One year deal should have been the low-risk play given the rate of improvement for both TDK and Mirkov.
Not a project ruckman at all? Drafted in the 50s by the Hawks back in 2014 straight out of the U18s:
I was a fan of him back then because his athletic package and read of the game looked good, and he was a deft tap of the ball. Dunno what happened to him during his time at the Hawks, but he became flat-footed and it hasn't changed much. Still a good tap, just doesn't get over the top of opponents now, nor really attack the ball in the air.
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And the same Eddie that was pushed out cause Malthouse didn't want to pay his worth?
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