No Oppo Supporters OPPOSITION OBSERVATION XXXIX

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Carlton fans whinging about the umpiring in the smh



On Saturday with the game poised, Geelong’s Ollie Henry took a mark on the goal line. There was a video review about whether he had marked inside the field of play, and after it was examined at length, it was decided he had.
What was not debated, but should have been, was the fact that before this there was a hefty shove in Lewis Young’s back. There is a reason it was not debated, and it wasn’t just because the video score review doesn’t (and shouldn’t) extend to reviewing those things. It was not in debate because there seemingly is never a debate about the fact players continue to feel free to shove opponents under the ball at will.
Carlton captain [PLAYERCARD]Patrick Cripps[/PLAYERCARD] has a word with the umpire on Saturday afternoon.

Carlton captain Patrick Cripps has a word with the umpire on Saturday afternoon.
Since the AFL – rightly – removed the hands in the back rule, umpires have taken the view that nearly everything now is permissible. Commentators use silly euphemisms like “worked him under the ball” when a player times the shove of an opponent just as he leaps, and hence goes flying forward. “That’s just good body work.” Well, it is if you accept getting away with a push in the back is good body work.

But the commentators of this play were left aghast at what Henry got away with. Goal-kicking great Jason Dunstall was surprised and bemused, David King perplexed.
“It’s an extraordinary push out,” Dunstall observed on Fox.
The generous view of the Henry moment was he might have pushed Young in the side, even though Young went cannoning forwards.

It was a missed free kick. And yes free kicks are missed by umpires, that’s accepted, and it might just be put down as an error. But the concern is the AFL won’t consider this and incidents like it an error because otherwise it is doubtful they would continue happening so frequently.


The Henry mark was one instance, but it happened again on Sunday when Swan Hayden McLean shoved Hawthorn’s Jack Scrimshaw under the ball. There are examples in every game.
The AFL first introduced the hands in the back rule because a push seemed devilishly hard to police. Then it abandoned that mandatory rule because the lack of leeway in interpretation made the cure worse than the cancer. Now we are back with players being freely pushed out. The AFL needs to push back, not push in the back.
In a game where the Blues were also penalised for a dubious stand 50 that resulted in a late goal, when the umpire told Harry McKay to stand but Patrick Cripps did instead, because McKay was injured and wandered away, the Blues had a right to feel they didn’t get the rub.
 
Carlton fans whinging about the umpiring in the smh



On Saturday with the game poised, Geelong’s Ollie Henry took a mark on the goal line. There was a video review about whether he had marked inside the field of play, and after it was examined at length, it was decided he had.
What was not debated, but should have been, was the fact that before this there was a hefty shove in Lewis Young’s back. There is a reason it was not debated, and it wasn’t just because the video score review doesn’t (and shouldn’t) extend to reviewing those things. It was not in debate because there seemingly is never a debate about the fact players continue to feel free to shove opponents under the ball at will.
Carlton captain Patrick Cripps has a word with the umpire on Saturday afternoon.

Carlton captain Patrick Cripps has a word with the umpire on Saturday afternoon.
Since the AFL – rightly – removed the hands in the back rule, umpires have taken the view that nearly everything now is permissible. Commentators use silly euphemisms like “worked him under the ball” when a player times the shove of an opponent just as he leaps, and hence goes flying forward. “That’s just good body work.” Well, it is if you accept getting away with a push in the back is good body work.

But the commentators of this play were left aghast at what Henry got away with. Goal-kicking great Jason Dunstall was surprised and bemused, David King perplexed.
“It’s an extraordinary push out,” Dunstall observed on Fox.
The generous view of the Henry moment was he might have pushed Young in the side, even though Young went cannoning forwards.

It was a missed free kick. And yes free kicks are missed by umpires, that’s accepted, and it might just be put down as an error. But the concern is the AFL won’t consider this and incidents like it an error because otherwise it is doubtful they would continue happening so frequently.


The Henry mark was one instance, but it happened again on Sunday when Swan Hayden McLean shoved Hawthorn’s Jack Scrimshaw under the ball. There are examples in every game.
The AFL first introduced the hands in the back rule because a push seemed devilishly hard to police. Then it abandoned that mandatory rule because the lack of leeway in interpretation made the cure worse than the cancer. Now we are back with players being freely pushed out. The AFL needs to push back, not push in the back.
In a game where the Blues were also penalised for a dubious stand 50 that resulted in a late goal, when the umpire told Harry McKay to stand but Patrick Cripps did instead, because McKay was injured and wandered away, the Blues had a right to feel they didn’t get the rub.

No mention of Kozi pushing Broad in the back in the opening game of this round.
 

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a norf supporter called richo and sam on 3aw and said he hates Richmond the most because when he was a little kid in 1974 after the Richmond/norf grand final skinny titus gave him a serve when he saw him in his norf kit in the streets 🤣🤣🤣
 

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Relax. We're told the Cats will have an easy fixture for the rest of the year.
FMD Exactly how would you describe their fixture so far? Ridiculously easy? At least try and hide the corruption AFL.

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Unbelievably soft draw and then some luck also. Get the Bears at the GABBA which should have been a had game, but the Bears have turned to poo and it was pissing with rain, then the Blues that are nearly as injury riddled as us.
I still think they will be found out at some point this year, preferably straight sets in the finals.
 
I will add to this, that if the siren has gone to end the quarter or the game, the umpires forensically analyse the player to make sure they don’t run off their line.

All shots for goal should get the same treatment. And, really, the same should apply every time someone is standing the mark anywhere on the ground.

Umpires need to police it and act on it, immediately.
Exactly MM.

Another one that grates is how pedantic the umps are about enforcing the stand rule anywhere around the ground except when a bloke is kicking at goal from a very acute angle. The bloke on the mark is then free to "unstand" the split second the kicker steps off the mark, well before the ump has a chance to call play-on (which in itself is far quicker than their call anywhere else on the ground), whilst defenders are also free to run in at him immediately.
 


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Can't wait to see how the AFL can make a stand against domestic violence.

I do not intend to trivalise what is a very real, serious problem. If only the AFL didn't intend to always do the same.

I'm sorry but when sporting league that is so clearly overrun with corrupt behaviour to such a transparent level pulls out its soap box to stand on and preach ethics - its the most empty effort ever.

Want to help woman with domestic violence this round AFL? Donate the funding you make from this round from either ticket sales or TV rights to the Red Rose foundation.

a minutes silence is exactly that. More silence
 
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Exactly MM.

Another one that grates is how pedantic the umps are about enforcing the stand rule anywhere around the ground except when a bloke is kicking at goal from a very acute angle. The bloke on the mark is then free to "unstand" the split second the kicker steps off the mark, well before the ump has a chance to call play-on (which in itself is far quicker than their call anywhere else on the ground), whilst defenders are also free to run in at him immediately.
Whatever happened to kicking over the man on the mark, the Buddy arc was corruption at its finest!
 
I will add to this, that if the siren has gone to end the quarter or the game, the umpires forensically analyse the player to make sure they don’t run off their line.

All shots for goal should get the same treatment. And, really, the same should apply every time someone is standing the mark anywhere on the ground.


Umpires need to police it and act on it, immediately.
Exactly right. They ask the player to 'Stand' but they aren't even where the ball was marked 50% of the time I'd say (if not more). The player taking the kick is usually obserdly so far around from the mark it's rediculous.

It's such a poorly thought of and implemented rule.
 

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