Oppo Camp OTHER CLUB Trade and F/A Discussion

[Mick F]

Sounds like Todd Goldstein won’t be at North next year.

I’d take him for 1 year at the Pies tbh. Yes I know he’s old AF but he’d be our best ruckman by a decent margin and wouldn’t cost much.

Don’t @ me.

Are we still paying Cox next year?

 

[Jasper84]

"You know how we tried that thing of playing ruckman Stefan Martin

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Stefan Martin

Age

37

Ht

198cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

8.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

23.5

5star

D

6.4

1star

K

4.2

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2.2

2star

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2.6

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HO

18.4

5star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.6

4star

HO

1.0

4star

and ruckman Max Gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

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D

18.5

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11.5

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7.0

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CL

3.5

4star

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29.2

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D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

together and it didn't work?

And then we tried that thing of playing ruckman Brayden Pruess and ruckman Max Gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

together and it didn't work?

Then we tried that that thing of playing forward/ruck Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

22

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

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5.0

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1.5

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1.0

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0.3

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8.3

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3.3

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5.0

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1.5

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1.0

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0.3

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and ruckman Max Gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

32

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

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18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

together and it won us a premiership?

Ok so hear me out, we get ruckman Brodie Grundy

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Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

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Career

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17.5

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8.0

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HB

9.6

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4.1

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32.0

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D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

, pay him a lot of a money..."

 

[Pacman Carney]

Nope. Not the way it works.

Collingwoods arrangement is with Grundy for, say, 250k per year
wherever Grundy goes, Collingwood pay the 250

 

[Apex36]

Collingwoods arrangement is with Grundy for, say, 250k per year
wherever Grundy goes, Collingwood pay the 250

Once again, not the way it works. Clubs don’t have contracts directly with opposition players.
Collingwood may well be paying his salary still if on traded. But the deal is not directly with Grundy.

 

[partypie]

Suspect he found the market demand wasn’t there

Suspect they realised that they still had a bloke who could still average 30 touches and 7+ clearances a game at AFL level who was wasted playing SANFL all year. It was the club that had him out the door as someone surplus to needs for most of the year.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

Sounds like Todd Goldstein won’t be at North next year.

I’d take him for 1 year at the Pies tbh. Yes I know he’s old AF but he’d be our best ruckman by a decent margin and wouldn’t cost much.

Don’t @ me.

I agree

 

[sr36]

I don't see that it does make it more difficult to on-trade him. If Melb do the same deal with port and pay a cut of his wage, aren't Melb gaining a big chunk of cap space just like we did (but for a guy who will play VFL if he stays?) And port get him at the same rate Melb were willing to pay him.
No impediment whatsoever!

My last comment on this, but Melbourne having to wear the cost that we are currently wearing, would clearly make it more difficult to on-trade him

 

[Scritchyscroony]

My last comment on this, but Melbourne having to wear the cost that we are currently wearing, would clearly make it more difficult to on-trade him

How? It's exactly the same trade we did with Melb but Melb do it with port. If it worked for us when Grundy was our main ruck it's gotta work better for Melb with him being a VFL player.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Collingwoods arrangement is with Grundy for, say, 250k per year
wherever Grundy goes, Collingwood pay the 250

Clearly you've seen the contract to know this then. When did you get the chance to read it?

 

[Bianconeri]

My last comment on this, but Melbourne having to wear the cost that we are currently wearing, would clearly make it more difficult to on-trade him

That’s Grundy and Melbourne’s problem

 

[sr36]

That’s Grundy and Melbourne’s problem

This is in the context of whether it's likely that there is an intentional clause that gets us off the hook.

 

[sr36]

How? It's exactly the same trade we did with Melb but Melb do it with port. If it worked for us when Grundy was our main ruck it's gotta work better for Melb with him being a VFL player.

Change what I've written from difficult to a disincentive to trade.

 

[Bianconeri]

This is in the context of whether it's likely that there is an intentional clause that gets us off the hook.

In that context us having an out of the payment if Grundy leaves Melbourne making it harder for Grundy to leave is a problem for Melbourne and Grundy not us.

We either get the same deal we have now which was deemed okay from the FD or a better deal.

 

[Eric Shin]

I’ll be spewing if the Hawks nab Henry. Don’t want those bastards getting good too quickly.


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[Dead Eye Didak]

Clearly you've seen the contract to know this then. When did you get the chance to read it?

Cal Twomey on SEN a couple of days ago also said that if Grundy left Melbourne, we would still be paying towards his contract, as we have an agreement with Grundy and his management and that Melbourne wouldn't have to pay anything towards his contract should he leave.

 

[ipswichpies]

Cal Twomey on SEN a couple of days ago also said that if Grundy left Melbourne, we would still be paying towards his contract, as we have an agreement with Grundy and his management and that Melbourne wouldn't have to pay anything towards his contract should he leave.

I saw that also but it does not explain the Dees angst at getting stuck with any of Grundy,s money which I find interesting maybe they think they are not on as solid ground as they thought re Grundy.

I am not sure it is as cut and dried as some claim on both sides of the arguement,where are the Carlton lawyers when you need them.

 

[Jen2310]

“He has had talks with Melbourne and will seek a trade to Melbourne.”

 

[manicpie]

“He has had talks with Melbourne and will seek a trade to Melbourne.”

He's going to be good for AJ to have him in Melbourne, you never know, he might be coming to us

 

[Jen2310]

"Geelong is set to target Port’s future first-round draft pick for him."

 

[jakson68]

He's going to be good for AJ to have him in Melbourne, you never know, he might be coming to us

I think we are ok for small-med forwards.

 

[Pacman Carney]

Once again, not the way it works. Clubs don’t have contracts directly with opposition players.
Collingwood may well be paying his salary still if on traded. But the deal is not directly with Grundy.

Ok, whatever you say.

 

[Pacman Carney]

Clearly you've seen the contract to know this then. When did you get the chance to read it?

Great comeback

 

[KinderSmock]

I’ll be spewing if the Hawks nab Henry. Don’t want those bastards getting good too quickly.


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Hawthorn are a rising stock. Got some talent coming through the doors and a good VFL program so they can keep stealing mature age bargains.

 

[Eric Shin]

Hawthorn are a rising stock. Got some talent coming through the doors and a good VFL program so they can keep stealing mature age bargains.

I really rate their young talent coming through and their game plan seems to stack up. But can they stop rising up the ranks.


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[gouki88]

"Geelong is set to target Port’s future first-round draft pick for him."

A 1st rounder for Sav?! Surely not..