Play Nice Random Chat Thread: Episode III

[The Warlord]

Without getting deep in the political mud, I don’t understand the why the US bombed Syria for humanitarian reasons but leave their allies to a similar fate. It’s like Don wanted to swing his dick.

When Trump did last year, or 2017?

He did that because Al Qaeda, knowing they were getting beaten, were desperate to try and get the Yanks to help them again, so they staged a chemical attack (more accurately they gassed their own people).

Even then Trump was reluctant to act until Ivanka put a propaganda picture of frothing babies under his nose. Even then it was a toke strike on the airbase, they were flying out of it a day later.

On this one, Trump's been boxed in by Pelosi on impeachment, his usual strategy is to do something wild and unexepcted to change the narrative. So he did this. But he had no idea of the impact it would have domestically.

Also, he is easily rolled by "strongmen" like Erdogan, as he is fundamentally a coward at heart.

 

[The Warlord]

Did you see this JeanLucGoddard ?

Yep.

Its VERY interesting the way the likes of Graham and McConnell (they Senators, this was the Reps) are walking away from him on this, with impeachment coming.

It could be they are using this to "show" they can disagree with him, but still support him on the impeachment vote.

Or it could be the start of the Republican machine taking back the party. They've got what they want from him - tax cuts and judges - hard to see where the upsdie is now.

 

[Val Keating]

When Trump did last year, or 2017?

He did that because Al Qaeda, knowing they were getting beaten, were desperate to try and get the Yanks to help them again, so they staged a chemical attack (more accurately they gassed their own people).

Even then Trump was reluctant to act until Ivanka put a propaganda picture of frothing babies under his nose. Even then it was a toke strike on the airbase, they were flying out of it a day later.

On this one, Trump's been boxed in by Pelosi on impeachment, his usual strategy is to do something wild and unexepcted to change the narrative. So he did this. But he had no idea of the impact it would have domestically.

Also, he is easily rolled by "strongmen" like Erdogan, as he is fundamentally a coward at heart.

It’s pretty gross that war is used as a political tool.

 

[The Warlord]

It’s pretty gross that war is used as a political tool.

As someone once said, war is politics by other means.

 

[Flawed Genius]

The ******* letter that leaked to Trish Regan that Trump apparently wrote to Erdogan..

I kind of understand how Trump got elected, but I do not understand how people can continue to think he is the best person for the job from a foreign policy and international relations standpoint. He is a small fish playing in a big pond with a lot of people who are a lot smarter than he is. He is getting exposed time and again and now the GOP is starting to distance itself from his policies. s**t even Mitch McConnell apologised to the Kurds

 

[The Warlord]

The ******* letter that leaked to Trish Regan that Trump apparently wrote to Erdogan..

I kind of understand how Trump got elected, but I do not understand how people can continue to think he is the best person for the job from a foreign policy and international relations standpoint. He is a small fish playing in a big pond with a lot of people who are a lot smarter than he is. He is getting exposed time and again and now the GOP is starting to distance itself from his policies. s**t even Mitch McConnell apologised to the Kurds

 

[Val Keating]

He’ll want to go to war with Turkey now because of his ego.

 

[The Warlord]

FWIW the letter when his mate Crown Prince Bone Saw knocked off Khashoggi was better.

Old Bone Saw found out the hard way what kind of friend Trump is too.

 

[Val Keating]

The ******* letter that leaked to Trish Regan that Trump apparently wrote to Erdogan..

I kind of understand how Trump got elected, but I do not understand how people can continue to think he is the best person for the job from a foreign policy and international relations standpoint. He is a small fish playing in a big pond with a lot of people who are a lot smarter than he is. He is getting exposed time and again and now the GOP is starting to distance itself from his policies. s**t even Mitch McConnell apologised to the Kurds

Foreign policy has never been his thing. He sacked the situation room almost immediately.

 

[The Warlord]

Foreign policy has never been his thing. He sacked the situation room almost immediately.

Problem is foreign policy is largely the President's thing.

The framers of the Constitution were very clear about that.

 

[DesertRoo]

Tulsi having the right impact with the right people Groin guru

Love tulsi, but wtf is it with political leaders and all these weird cults atm.

 

[Val Keating]

Problem is foreign policy is largely the President's thing.

The framers of the Constitution were very clear about that.

I don’t think he cares

 

[The Warlord]

I don’t think he cares

That's his fundamental problem, he doesn't realise he can't play by his own rules anymore.

 

[The Warlord]

Love tulsi, but wtf is it with political leaders and all these weird cults atm.

Anyone who gets to any relatively high level of politics - say an MP - is fundamentally weird.

Its not a normal thing to want to do.

 

[DesertRoo]

The ******* letter that leaked to Trish Regan that Trump apparently wrote to Erdogan..

I kind of understand how Trump got elected, but I do not understand how people can continue to think he is the best person for the job from a foreign policy and international relations standpoint. He is a small fish playing in a big pond with a lot of people who are a lot smarter than he is. He is getting exposed time and again and now the GOP is starting to distance itself from his policies. s**t even Mitch McConnell apologised to the Kurds

American policy never changes..
as much as people are jumping up and down about this, there was never a time when the brains trust was going to let a socialist state take hold in the Middle East.
And he has started war on Turkey, NATO Allies. Remember economic sanctions is war, the whole point of it is to stave out a population to get them to rise up against the government.

we’ve just entered the grey zone with alot of countries.

 

[Val Keating]

That's his fundamental problem, he doesn't realise he can't play by his own rules anymore.

He’s a narcissist. He thinks he’s always right and smarter then everyone else. He’ll go down swinging, no matter the cost

 

[Val Keating]

Listening to this this morning

‎Intercepted: Wasteland of Corruption on Apple Podcasts

‎Show Intercepted, Ep Wasteland of Corruption - 16 Oct 2019

podcasts.apple.com

 

[The Warlord]

He’s a narcissist. He thinks he’s always right and smarter then everyone else. He’ll go down swinging, no matter the cost

Narcissist yes, although to even want to be President you have to be.

Think he's always right and smarter than everyone else. Agree, but again, so does pretty much anyone who wants to be President. The effective ones realise they need to listen to advice though. But even running for President is basically saying "I reckon I'm the smartest person in America!"

Will he go down swinging? Hmmmm, nah, he's fundamentally a coward. If and when the grim realisation of defeat stares him in the face, he'll find a way to call it a win.

I can see a scenario where he resigns from the White House (with a pardon in his pocket from President Pence) claiming he was forced out by the evil deep state coup.

 

[DesertRoo]

The US is not getting out of the Middle East they’ve just outsourced...
business and weapon sales is the key and they are flowing, You think trump wants out, think again. He vetoed a bill for weapons a sales last week.

they’ve got an eye on the bigger prize and Trump is a merely a distraction.

US-Saudi arms deal heads towards $500m Senate showdown

Senate will vote on resolution that aims to block precision-guided bomb sale that Trump supports

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[DesertRoo]

The most profitable of all weapons is nukes, they cost a heap to manufacture and maintain, also counties spent big dollars having the US just store them in their homeland. ‘Good ole protection rackets % of GDP’
and now that Obama spent 1 trillion dollars on nukes.

at some point someone’s going to have to demonstrate the tactical nature of these. Also the low fallout, who better then a nutcase?

Obama’s Russian Rationale for $1 Trillion Nuke Plan Signals New Arms Race

President Obama’s defense budget request for 2017 includes language that makes it clear that nuclear “modernization” really is about Russia after all.

theintercept.com

 

[Val Keating]

Narcissist yes, although to even want to be President you have to be.

Think he's always right and smarter than everyone else. Agree, but again, so does pretty much anyone who wants to be President. The effective ones realise they need to listen to advice though. But even running for President is basically saying "I reckon I'm the smartest person in America!"

Will he go down swinging? Hmmmm, nah, he's fundamentally a coward. If and when the grim realisation of defeat stares him in the face, he'll find a way to call it a win.

I can see a scenario where he resigns from the White House (with a pardon in his pocket from President Pence) claiming he was forced out by the evil deep state coup.

He’s definitely a draft dodging coward.

What I mean by going out swinging is what you’re predicting. He’ll drive the wedge further in the US

 

[The Warlord]

Using repurposed air superiority fighters to blow up shithouses.

 

[Mordecai]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/01/chinas-angry-young-nationalists/ thought this was interesting

 

[DesertRoo]

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/01/chinas-angry-young-nationalists/ thought this was interesting

China is the biggest net importer of oil.. I wonder if these events are linked. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-ships-carrying-iran-oil-191016081016944.html

 

[giantroo]

RIP, a single blow and he was gone.