Review Round 17, 2023: North Melbourne v Box Hill Hawks, 16 July 2023, 12.05pm @ Arden Street Oval

[VandoHawk]

We fought our way back into that quarter after a very poor start.
Tucker is getting (understandably) obliterated by Goldstein and it's impacting our mids significantly.
Like Serong's game, his link up play is very good for a defender.
Butler really should have 3 goals.

 

[VandoHawk]

Butler kicks his second, a 40 metre bullet handball from Ryan after a great 2v1 mark.
Ryan presenting really well this quarter.

 

[VandoHawk]

Going to stop watching now. A lot of momentum swings and poor disposal between both sides.
North kicked 3.1 and we’ve kicked 0.4. May end up being the difference.

 

[peetoo]

Missing very gettable ones

 

[MJA33]

Thorpe selfish. Butler had open goal, handball.

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Look at that from Mackenzie in traffic. He's going to be a star. He could be our best young midfielder.

 

[peetoo]

Two in a row!!!!!

 

[H00t]

What was Kosi thinking then?? We got a goal out of it the hard way but really he just had to draw the man and handball it over instead just tries to turn it over

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Max Hall! A tremendous contested mark. A great kick to boot. We're up by 7 now.

 

[peetoo]

Brilliant by Hall

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

What a tackle from Cooper Stephens! Is that the game-winning tackle?

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

Yes! What a win! Saved by the bell. A great, hard-fought, contested game. We're in the top 4!

 

[Ram-Man]

Yes!!! Good win.

 

[Ram-Man]

Max Hall! A tremendous contested mark. A great kick to boot. We're up by 7 now.

Hall was very important in the last minutes. Great contested mark at half back also.

 

[MJA33]

Hall was very important in the last minutes. Great contested mark at half back also.

He is a very good mark for his size. Smart player

 

[VandoHawk]

Serong just keeps building as a key defender. Has some lapses but does a lot of things naturally (spoils, positioning) that is really under-rated. His link play for a CHB is also really good. Bit controversial but I like him more than DGB in that role.

Ryan keeps presenting. Unique prospect, hard to stop when at full stretch. Despite his age he'll need another preseason to add core strength.

Butler does some exceptional things in bursts. Greater consistency is key for him.

Long/Stephens both had really good games. Really impressed with how Stephen's game has translated to the HFF across the last few weeks, may be a way he gets an opportunity in the senior side.

I rate Bennetts as a link player. Quick hands in congestion + applies defensive pressure. Not lightning but zippy enough for his role, should be elevated.

Mackenzie was really strong with his kicking especially late in the game.

CJ didn't play the full game and was mostly average.

What Goldstein did to Tucker is illegal in most states. Tucker did take some strong contested marks though.

 

[dermott]

Good experience for Tucker to play on Goldy. Goldstein has been a top AFL for years. Tucker now understands the standard he will need to reach.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Good win by the sound of it. Look fwd to watching the replay.

 

[smish]

How'd Mackenzie go?

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

How'd Mackenzie go?

I was only able to watch the last quarter. It appeared to be a typical Mackenzie performance. Full of class, finding time and space in traffic to get the ball to good positions. He's just such a good player. He could be the best of our young crop. He's my favourite Hawthorn player.

 

[TylerDurden]

How far off is Ryan?

 

[VandoHawk]

How far off is Ryan?

Realistically a preseason at minimum.
He flies really high in packs and when he puts the arms out he's quite difficult to stop. Strong contested mark.
He looks slow and gangly but is deceptively nimble when the ball hits the ground for a 200cm player.
Can get out-bodied 1v1 due to his frame.
Doesn't know the patterns so can get lost defensively.
Has a kicking action that either hits the target or goes 40 metres to the left. There's no in-between.

Could get a look in late in the season if we're exploring options but I think some time with a proper diet and hitting the weights is needed.

 

[PenAndPaper]

How far off is Ryan?

Still unsure if he would get a game this year. Would not have both the strength in his upper body or core yet against AFL level defenders. Feel he would get pushed off the ball way too easily at the top level imo

 

[Roger Rogerson]

How far off is Ryan?

As Vandohawk pointed out main thing is defensively. Think Fergus but without the mindset of Fergus where he knows he should be doing it but it's too late. I'm not sure that thought even happens with Ryan.

 

[Rudi Gilham]

Max Hall's best ever game for Box Hill.