Should the Coleman medal be more than just about the most goals kicked by a forward?

[Thrawn]

Have Freo ever had a decent full forward? Aside from when Pav played there.

Tony Modra.

 

[HarryBeef]

Tony Modra.

Yah just read 3 more posts

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

bwahahahaha

I was relying to your post.

I didn't bring up anything; YOU DID. For the love of all things, You really need to read you own posts.

Are you on drugs?

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Nick Larkey has a nickname, so does Walker but Curnow doesn't appear to have one. Surely this has to be taken into account when deciding the Coleman as well.

King Charles says hi.

 

[Aphrodite]

Nick Larkey has a nickname, so does Walker but Curnow doesn't appear to have one. Surely this has to be taken into account when deciding the Coleman as well.

 

[WilloTree]

Are you on drugs?

King Charles says hi.

I see what you did there. Very funny.

 

[Thrawn]

Curnowfides because he looks like Kouta.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

 

[incaciawin]

Sure let's have the Coleman decided by Committee. Make Kane Cornes the Chairman and sit back and watch Port Adelaide players triumph year after year.

 

[Franc de Borges]

The only individual award in this sport that isn’t decided by interpretation, so let’s change it

 

[terrybull]

If we do this… then what’s next?

Deciding the Premiership

If a team wins the Grand Final with five or more less scoring shots, then the Premiership should be awarded to the losing team….

 

[John Who]

If you're going to drive this weird and unnecessary narrative, can you at least do your research properly?

You've added Keays to Adelaide's list and ignored Martin and Motlop for Carlton. If you had read the post you were replying to, I already stated that Crows had 7 players with 1+ goal average and Blues had 6.
I did the work for you, you ignored it, then repeated what I had already said, but inaccurately.


Most non-biased responses in here seem to think the exact same as the Blues fans. In fact, it seems that not even your own brethren agrees with you.
I'm glad Charlie won back to back, purely because of where he's come from with his injuries and how much footy he's missed, but it wouldn't have bothered my if Tex or somebody else won, as Charlie and Harry both have Colemans to their names already. If it HAD been Tex or somebody else who won, my response to this thread would still be exactly the same.

The Coleman winner is the player who kicks the most goals across the 23 game home and away season. In the event of a tie, both players win.
You can make valid arguments for tie breakers in multiple ways:
1. Player with the most points wins - they have contributed more scores to their team
2. Player with least points wins - they are a more accurate goal kicker, kicking the same number of goals from less scoring shots
3. Player with the higher average goals per game wins - Player A kicked 78 goals from 22 games (3.55 per game), Player B kicked 78 goals from 23 games (3.39 per game), so Player A wins

I see pros and cons in all of those, but it's not how the current system works and the current system isn't really broken.

I’m not actually driving a narrative, that’s just the drama queens on here chucking a big fuss out of a thread to pose some questions.

I don’t have any hate for Curnow by the way. I actually think he’s one of the best modern forwards we have currently and I look forward to seeing him kick some more bags. It just so happens that I genuinely believe this year Tex has some merit in laying claim to be the better forward than Curnow (footy-purist me thinking, not Crows-fan-bias me). And to ram home the point I’m not a bias Crows fan, I think Butters has been clearly the best player in the league this year, and I have a huge man-crush on JHF attack on the footy.

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Should take away all the goals kicked against the Eagles this season. That puts Larkey top of the Coleman.. after both Curnow and Walker kicked 19 goals each against the Eagles across 2 of the home and away games.

Oscar Allen didn't get to play the Eagles at all, he should surely receive some of bonus here...

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I’m not actually driving a narrative, that’s just the drama queens on here chucking a big fuss out of a thread to pose some questions.

I don’t have any hate for Curnow by the way. I actually think he’s one of the best modern forwards we have currently and I look forward to seeing him kick some more bags. It just so happens that I genuinely believe this year Tex has some merit in laying claim to be the better forward than Curnow (footy-purist me thinking, not Crows-fan-bias me). And to ram home the point I’m not a bias Crows fan, I think Butters has been clearly the best player in the league this year, and I have a huge man-crush on JHF attack on the footy.

Outside of goal average per game Curnow wins out in nearly every single other metric for a key forward so not sure how u came to that conclusion. What did Tex do to so amazingly that the stats didn't pick up on which made him the best KPF this year?

 

[ferball]

I’m not actually driving a narrative, that’s just the drama queens on here chucking a big fuss out of a thread to pose some questions.

I don’t have any hate for Curnow by the way. I actually think he’s one of the best modern forwards we have currently and I look forward to seeing him kick some more bags. It just so happens that I genuinely believe this year Tex has some merit in laying claim to be the better forward than Curnow (footy-purist me thinking, not Crows-fan-bias me). And to ram home the point I’m not a bias Crows fan, I think Butters has been clearly the best player in the league this year, and I have a huge man-crush on JHF attack on the footy.

Tex may be a better forward (or not) but he didn't win the Coleman because he didn't top the goal scoring.

So that's the end of the story.

 

[Toump Ass]

I think we should give the award to Dusty Martin every year.
He's the best.

 

[My Tilly]

Basically, I’m asking if the 2 forwards kicked the exact same amount of goals/behinds, do both deserve the Coleman? Or should we consider additional factors?

Curnow booted 31 goals against the eventual finalists (39%).
Tex booted 38 goals against eventual finalists (50%).

 

[btdg]

Guys, i have developed a new scientific algorithm to determine the Coleman medal that takes into account 112 factors including 'goals against the middle 6 teams on the ladder', 'metres gained from non free kick, non backwards disposals' and 'the vibe' to determine the Coleman medal.

It will be used to determine a field on 16 possible candidates each season who will then compete in a series of 9 squid game style challenges, until there are only 4 remaining, at which point a fan vote (via old school 'call this number... calls cost $1.50 per 30 seconds hotline) will reduce the field to two.

At that point the winner will be decided on either a coin flip or whoever scored the most boundaries in the 2019 cricket world cup, unless Kane Cornes doesn't like the outcome, in which case he can veto the result and give the award to Conor Rozee.

I think we all know it makes a lot more sense than the current system. 'Most goals'? What sort of mickey mouse competition rewards that?

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

I like it. Can also award the leading AFLW scorer the Colewoman (or Colegirl for the runner up)

Colemxn. Get with the times...

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

NO!

OP has got a hard on for Tex. We love him and admire what he's been able to achieve after looking very cooked in 2020, but really, this is a stupid thread

Let's face it. Tex nearly nabbed the Coleman in spite of John Woo hugging his nuts all season.
The mere inconvenience should be worth at least another goal per game.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Charlie would’ve kicked 100 if he spent the last month of the season playing hungry like Tex.

 

[_Mike_]

off-season for some, I guess...

 

[Aphrodite]

off-season boredom for some, I guess...

 

[skam85]

John Who should use the TARDIS to go back in time and never make this Bigfooty account

EFA

 

[skam85]

And to ram home the point I’m not a bias Crows fan, I think Butters has been clearly the best player in the league this year, and I have a huge man-crush on JHF attack on the footy.

This has very "I'm not racist, I have plenty of black friends" vibes