List Mgmt. The 2018 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals Thread

[bedford]

Grundy,mcveigh and lloyd are big dents to our best 22.. who comes in and replaces them that makes us a better team next year?

Lloyd IS STILL PLAYING FOR US !WTFDWFT

 

[Superstar swan]

Lloyd IS STILL PLAYING FOR US !WTFDWFT

Only for a few more games

 

[RobbieK]

Only for a few more games

Says who?

Everyone was saying Aliir was gone, he just signed for three years.

The signal to noise ratio on Bigfooty "facts" leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Kirkswan]

Grundy,mcveigh and lloyd are big dents to our best 22.. who comes in and replaces them that makes us a better team next year?

Melican, Mills and Johnson... Certainly I thought the plan was always for Melican and Mills to replace Grundy and McVeigh; and in a very happy circumstance, we may well have Johnson. Not saying they will be better immediately, but they certainly have the potential.

 

[Kirkswan]

The really interesting situation will be, what if Lloyd stays?

Then our backs are: Lloyd, Mills, McVeigh, Melican, Maibaum, Grundy, Aliir, Smith, Rampe, Johnson, Marsh, O'Riordan, Cunningham, Newman, Ling, Stoddart (and they say we have no depth!).

So who would you chose?

I think that I would then go:

Smith, Rampe, Melican
Johnson, Lloyd, Aliir

Retire: Grundy and McVeigh with Smith to follow either next year or the year after.

Keep: Maibaum, O'Riordan, Marsh, Cunningham, Ling, Stoddart

Move: Mills to the midfield.

Trade/Delist: Newman

 

[Kirkswan]

The problem with Johnson is that I don't recall him being fast, quicker that Reg of course, and probably McVeigh as well, but I really like the speed that O'Riordan brings to our back line. Hmmm...

 

[Punts]

The problem with Johnson is that I don't recall him being fast, quicker that Reg of course, and probably McVeigh as well, but I really like the speed that O'Riordan brings to our back line. Hmmm...

AJ has some toe and was always in the top 3 runners at the club with Hanners

 

[Kirkswan]

AJ has some toe and was always in the top 3 runners at the club with Hanners

Cool, but Hanners isn't fast, he's a gut runner who can run all day.

It's been so long now, that AJ may well be quicker than I remember. The problem for me is that I'd really like to keep Reg and Smith forever, and I really want Melican, O'Riordan, Lloyd, Mills, Aliir, Rampe and Johnson in the team...

It's a great problem to have...

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Cool, but Hanners isn't fast, he's a gut runner who can run all day.

It's been so long now, that AJ may well be quicker than I remember. The problem for me is that I'd really like to keep Reg and Smith forever, and I really want Melican, O'Riordan, Lloyd, Mills, Aliir, Rampe and Johnson in the team...

It's a great problem to have...

Not really. We have an abundance of defenders and seem intent on recruiting another one. We cannot play them all over the ground, tho maybe the Mule is excited by that idea. We need 2-3 mids pronto to remain competitive.

 

[ScrewInStuds]

Not really. We have an abundance of defenders and seem intent on recruiting another one. We cannot play them all over the ground, tho maybe the Mule is excited by that idea. We need 2-3 mids pronto to remain competitive.

If we have Rampe, Aliir, Melican, O'Riordan and Moore in the back half then I'm not sure that we need Mills and probably Jones back there, as our defence would have a lot of flexibility in terms of speed, size, and attacking drive. Ie, our recruitment of defender Moore might give us another couple of mids, including 2013 pick 3 Callum Mills who was racking them up in the NEAFL as a bottom ager.

 

[Kirkswan]

Not really. We have an abundance of defenders and seem intent on recruiting another one. We cannot play them all over the ground, tho maybe the Mule is excited by that idea. We need 2-3 mids pronto to remain competitive.

What, you think we are going to keep all of them and recruit another? What gave you that idea?

And I won't be believing we are recruiting another defender until we actually do. Been fooled to many times by the rumours on this board before. It seems to me that they are correct every 10th time or so...

 

[caesar88]

Gary Rohan or Sam Naismith for Dan Menzel from Geelong anyone?

Recon would be a good deal, seems to be out of favour with the coach and on 1 year contracts. If he stays on the park recon he can provide us with 2+ goals every week.

Menzel is only a slightly better version of Rohan.. goes missing every time there’s any pressure or quality opposition

 

[caesar88]

Everyone be like “we’ll be fine next year we’re bringing in Blakey (18 year old completely unproven at senior level) and Moore (defender in the one area of the ground where we’ve been outstanding this year)”

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, we need an experienced midfielder! You can have all the stars you want at either end of the ground but if your midfield is getting smashed and you’re constantly losing territory then you won’t be doing any damage.

 

[caesar88]

Not really. We have an abundance of defenders and seem intent on recruiting another one. We cannot play them all over the ground, tho maybe the Mule is excited by that idea. We need 2-3 mids pronto to remain competitive.

This !!! Horse and his bloody key position players

 

[MarkP]

Would rather Lynch than any of them.

I wonder if this club would ever go after a high profile, high priced tall guy.

 

[Nebley]

My latest completely unfounded theory is:
1. Trade Newman, Lloyd, and probably our fourth pick, to Gold Coast in exchange for Hall, Lonergan, and their third.
2. On-trade the 3rd from GC for Liberatore from the Bulldogs.

Outs: Newman, Lloyd, our fourth pick
Ins: Hall, Lonergan, Liberatore.

I'm not certain on the relative values. Possibly Liberatore might cost us a second instead, but his value seems to have dropped sharply.

Three midfielders, which allows us to use Mills and Jones more off the HBF mitigating the loss of Lloyd.

No guarantee that any of these would work out, but realistically if any of the three lived up to their potential then we would probably be happy with the result. Hall can give pace and class on the outside, Liberatore can be the number one contested player in the game, and Lonergan can thrive in a new environment and become the inside player he was touted to be as an early pick.

I'd also like to get Preuss from the kangaroos and upgrade our first to be able to get a young gem before matching on Blakey, but I'm not sure how those happen.

 

[Kirkswan]

My latest completely unfounded theory is:
1. Trade Newman, Lloyd, and probably our fourth pick, to Gold Coast in exchange for Hall, Lonergan, and their third.
2. On-trade the 3rd from GC for Liberatore from the Bulldogs.

Outs: Newman, Lloyd, our fourth pick
Ins: Hall, Lonergan, Liberatore.

I'm not certain on the relative values. Possibly Liberatore might cost us a second instead, but his value seems to have dropped sharply.

Three midfielders, which allows us to use Mills and Jones more off the HBF mitigating the loss of Lloyd.

No guarantee that any of these would work out, but realistically if any of the three lived up to their potential then we would probably be happy with the result. Hall can give pace and class on the outside, Liberatore can be the number one contested player in the game, and Lonergan can thrive in a new environment and become the inside player he was touted to be as an early pick.

I'd also like to get Preuss from the kangaroos and upgrade our first to be able to get a young gem before matching on Blakey, but I'm not sure how those happen.

Have any of those players suffered more than one injury? Because if so, I reckon your flogging a dead horse on here...

I like both Mills and Jones coming out of defence, I don't know much about Hall and Lonergan, but what happened to Liberatore? Is he not being offered a contract or is he a free-agent? Any indications he is looking for a change?

 

[FreeAgent1]

My latest completely unfounded theory is:
1. Trade Newman, Lloyd, and probably our fourth pick, to Gold Coast in exchange for Hall, Lonergan, and their third.
2. On-trade the 3rd from GC for Liberatore from the Bulldogs.

Outs: Newman, Lloyd, our fourth pick
Ins: Hall, Lonergan, Liberatore.

I'm not certain on the relative values. Possibly Liberatore might cost us a second instead, but his value seems to have dropped sharply.

Three midfielders, which allows us to use Mills and Jones more off the HBF mitigating the loss of Lloyd.

No guarantee that any of these would work out, but realistically if any of the three lived up to their potential then we would probably be happy with the result. Hall can give pace and class on the outside, Liberatore can be the number one contested player in the game, and Lonergan can thrive in a new environment and become the inside player he was touted to be as an early pick.

I'd also like to get Preuss from the kangaroos and upgrade our first to be able to get a young gem before matching on Blakey, but I'm not sure how those happen.

Haha - i dont mind it but i would say unlikely- has about 6 pieces which would all have to fall together.

Mega trades rarely happen.

I still think its unlikely that Lloyd goes- but if he does atleast GC have decent picks to trade.

We have that many young players around surely we have some spare tippo cash soon.

Anyone know why some specified media are pushing us as trading hanners?

 

[Punts]

Risk vs reward with Libba

Absolute gun when when fit and is what we need in the guts

 

[Kirkswan]

Haha - i dont mind it but i would say unlikely- has about 6 pieces which would all have to fall together.

Mega trades rarely happen.

I still think its unlikely that Lloyd goes- but if he does atleast GC have decent picks to trade.

We have that many young players around surely we have some spare tippo cash soon.

Anyone know why some specified media are pushing us as trading hanners?

They've been reading big footy?

 

[Kirkswan]

Risk vs reward with Libba

Absolute gun when when fit and is what we need in the guts

What is the risk? Fitness?

 

[Punts]

What is the risk? Fitness?

2 knee reconstructions

 

[FreeAgent1]

2 knee reconstructions

Surely cheap as a result.....

 

[Kirkswan]

2 knee reconstructions

Whoa! Well, we certainly have the experience to deal with those... If the price was right, I'd probably risk it. Even if Dawson does blow our socks of this weekend, it would be good to have another on the books and ready to go.

 

[RobbieK]

2 knee reconstructions

I would think this is a risk too:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/liberatore-in-doghouse-after-city-bender-20120806-23qf0.html