The most average player ever

[drama5]

Cant remember name but big bloke with tatts that played for north? Spent whole career in and out of ones. Edwards maybe?

 

[drama5]

Aaron edwards it is!!!

11 years, 3 clubs and 94 games of pure averageness

 

[TerryWallet]

Troy Schwarze.

My one unfading memory of Schwarze was him winning a ball on the Etihad far wing, an ageing, shot, Michael Voss attempted to bear down on him with a crunching Voss tackle, but Schwarze sensed him, turned his head to recognise him, saw it was Voss and he just dropped the hammer like he was the roadrunner and put 15 metres between he and a forlorn Voss in the blinking of an eye.

The knowing champion retired knowingly very soon after.

 

[Resigned]

Leigh Harding, Corey Jones and Troy Makepeace from the 00's North Melbourne,

 

[Mr Blonde]

Has Jack Newnes being mentioned? I mean, does anyone even know what this guy looks like, he has played over 100 games but I wouldn’t know who he was if I fell over him. Come to think of it, there are quite a few ‘average’ players on St. Kilda’s list.


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[Schulzenfest]

Matt Rosa would be up there. The classic 'pretty good at everything, not great at anything' player. And being at the Gold Coast somehow makes him seem more average.

Kane ‘I’ve never seen a jumper I wouldn’t like to hold onto’ Cornes.

300 games, 4 B&F's, 2 AA's and a flag. I'd have loved to see his career if he was above average.

 

[Hellgood]

Aaron edwards it is!!!

11 years, 3 clubs and 94 games of pure averageness

Nope.

I think you're completely missing the point of the thread.





Consistently pulled off some off the best hangers I have seen, wasn't consistent goalkicker but had a few games where he'd kick a bag and look a million bucks. This thread is about the unobtrusive types who never get noticed, don't appear out of their depth but just go about their business moderately successfully without any great highlights.

 

[drama5]

11 seasons and 94 games suggests pretty average to me!! Consistantly dominated vfl and despite a few good marks sucked at afl. Isnt the poiny of thread someone who stuck around for a long time wothout really succeedibg at anything?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Nope.

I think you're completely missing the point of the thread.





Consistently pulled off some off the best hangers I have seen, wasn't consistent goalkicker but had a few games where he'd kick a bag and look a million bucks. This thread is about the unobtrusive types who never get noticed, don't appear out of their depth but just go about their business moderately successfully without any great highlights.

If Edwards was born 15-20 years earlier he would have been a superstar.

 

[katmanblue]

Damien Peverill

This photo looks like it was taken midway through the process of applying his Beauty and the Beast makeup.

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[juss]

Kam Macintosh.
Not a great player, but not a bad player either. Just consistantly plays his role to an average and acceptable level.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Shane Savage
matt rosa
brent staker
Nathan van berlo
beau waters
majak daw
dennis armfield

 

[TheBont]

jack watts

 

[PowerForGood]

By pressing a few buttons on my stats database, and applying a slight bit of discretion and humour in a "flawed" statistical analysis

Games: 12581 VFL/AFL players in history to date, so the median (#6290) has only played 19 games, and the mean (player #4069) sits at 48 games.
Goals: 12581 players. the median (#6290) only kicked 4 goals, the mean (#2788) sits at 29 goals (0.6 goals per game over 48 games)
Disposals (5268 players only since first recorded in 1958 so a bit harder). the median (#2634) sits at 416 disposals, and the mean (#1726) sits at 1031 disposals (21.5 disposals / game if spread over 48 games)

Taking just those 3 parameters and applying a slight bit of discretion in my flawed statistical analysis, the most average player I could find using the mean has been

with 50 games (rank #4031) with 1077 disposals (that's 21.5 disposals per game) and 28 goals (that's 0.6 goals per game)

Jaeger O'Meara (GC/HW)

 

[Skeptic]

By pressing a few buttons on my stats database, and applying a slight bit of discretion and humour in a "flawed" statistical analysis

Games: 12581 VFL/AFL players in history to date, so the median (#6290) has only played 19 games, and the mean (player #4069) sits at 48 games.
Goals: 12581 players. the median (#6290) only kicked 4 goals, the mean (#2788) sits at 29 goals (0.6 goals per game over 48 games)
Disposals (5268 players only since first recorded in 1958 so a bit harder). the median (#2634) sits at 416 disposals, and the mean (#1726) sits at 1031 disposals (21.5 disposals / game if spread over 48 games)

Taking just those 3 parameters and applying a slight bit of discretion in my flawed statistical analysis, the most average player I could find using the mean has been

with 50 games (rank #4031) with 1077 disposals (that's 21.5 disposals per game) and 28 goals (that's 0.6 goals per game)

Jaeger O'Meara (GC/HW)

love this... late contender for post of the year

 

[Skeptic]

I agree, I rated him as well - did all the basics comfortably, hard as nails (despite the weird perception of him being soft), ran both ways, versatile, unassuming sort of player who did the business for over a decade.

Yet so rare to find others like us on here with anything positive to say about him.

for me, the definition of soft in AFL terms is endlessly fascinating...
a player that put his body on the line as much as Farren did, and so often demonstrated the courage required to run back with the flight of the ball with little regard for his safety, or back into a pack as he did... you could never ever make the suggestion that he wasn’t a tough player.

yet at the same time, he was one of many saints of that era who simply didnt play his best games on the biggest of stages...
in 3 GFs, his claim to fame is tagging Pendles was it for a half... so in a way i do think he was soft because the measure of a great player is what they produce when things aren’t going their way.

that’s why Saints like Riewoldt and Harvey are criminally underrated because they lifted the standard of ok teams and single handedly turned more matches then you can remember.

Farren just didn’t have that clutch time magic.

all of that said, he was a great investment for the Saints and tough as nails

 

[JEDi 44]

Ayce Cordy

 

[Marc_Remillard]

Shane Woewodin is a good candidate for this thread

 

[Hellgood]

11 seasons and 94 games suggests pretty average to me!! Consistantly dominated vfl and despite a few good marks sucked at afl. Isnt the poiny of thread someone who stuck around for a long time wothout really succeedibg at anything?

You've just completely missed the concept.

Edwards marking was an elite trait and played some spectacular games. Even if his bad was poor making his mean performance "average" overall, he was far from a "boring" or unobtrusive player like say van Berlo/Rosa/Mathews who never had a game or piece of play that will stick in the memory (even though all very good contributors).

 

[drama5]

Ok well then how about shane parker? Over 200 games and retired at the time as fremantles most capped player and yet 95% of football community had to look up who he was

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Can't be arsed reading the whole thread. Has anyone mentioned Bronte Mumford? He played 200+ games for North Adelaide and never received a Magarey Medal vote.

Not sure we are including players from 3rd grade teams...

 

[PowerForGood]

Not sure we are including players from 3rd grade teams...

Some of those players are in the Australian Football Hall of Fame. You should read up on them, broaden your horizons a bit.

 

[Fyfster]

Daniel parker , Brother of Shane , 25 or so average games over three seasons

 

[Hellgood]

Ok well then how about shane parker? Over 200 games and retired at the time as fremantles most capped player and yet 95% of football community had to look up who he was

Yep agreed that's a perfect candidate for the thread.

for me, the definition of soft in AFL terms is endlessly fascinating...
a player that put his body on the line as much as Farren did, and so often demonstrated the courage required to run back with the flight of the ball with little regard for his safety, or back into a pack as he did... you could never ever make the suggestion that he wasn’t a tough player.

yet at the same time, he was one of many saints of that era who simply didnt play his best games on the biggest of stages...
in 3 GFs, his claim to fame is tagging Pendles was it for a half... so in a way i do think he was soft because the measure of a great player is what they produce when things aren’t going their way.

that’s why Saints like Riewoldt and Harvey are criminally underrated because they lifted the standard of ok teams and single handedly turned more matches then you can remember.

Farren just didn’t have that clutch time magic.

all of that said, he was a great investment for the Saints and tough as nails

Do you remember how freaking good Dane Swan was in 2010? It was Ray who tagged him to good effect in GF1.

 

[Skeptic]

Yep agreed that's a perfect candidate for the thread.



Do you remember how freaking good Dane Swan was in 2010? It was Ray who tagged him to good effect in GF1.

you are correct, it was Swan not Pendles.

and i don’t mean to detract from that performance, but that half of football was his only crowning achievement in three GFs.

and over the final series that he played, he was ok to good.

for me, that’s the knock on him... the reason he’s a good player but not a great one