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I don’t think anyone was under the illusion Russia would be able to stand up against the US Army in a conventional war.
And I agree with you in that I think expectations around what people thought Russia could do (just roll in to Kyiv and take it over with ease) compared to what they have been able to do are reset. The hyperbole in the other direction is what I was referring to. Anyways I’m adding no value being drawn into this again so I’ll side step and go back to reading Mobbs posts.
What hyperbole? Everyone realises that Russia has an overwhelming military advantage over Ukraine. That's obvious.
What is also clear is that war is affecting the lives of everyday Russians in a serious way. Eventually that discontent is going to reach a point where it can't be suppressed. Eg Wagner mutiny.
The longer the war goes on Russian airlines can't keep their planes in the air, Russian sports associations are banned etc etc the worse things get for Vlad.
The logical thing for him to do now is withdraw from all of Ukraine and declare a victory saying he successfully "defeated" the Ukranians and then just change the narrative. Kind of how the USSR moved on from Afghanistan.