AFLW West Coast vs Port Adelaide - Round 5 @ Lathlain
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How many new teams have we played so far?
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West Coast are paying $6.25 to beat Sydney tomorrow, a team that didn’t win a game last year and that we beat by 66 points, so we should definitely win next week.
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Depends on what you define as new.
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How on earth is West Coast, such a wealthy and well-supported team, such an on-field basket case in both the men's and women's competitions?? It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Do West Coast still have the homophobe coach?
Imagine letting a homophobe coach an AFLW team. Like putting Goebbels in charge of the Israel soccer side.
Imagine letting a homophobe coach an AFLW team. Like putting Goebbels in charge of the Israel soccer side.
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Hopefully we win, but I'm presuming we'll be without Ash Saint through suspension, and Tahau long term with that knee. So a win isn't going to be easy when 2 of our best are gone.
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Did some quick numbers on the disparity in the AFLW. As I'm a firm believer that a 2 division relegation system should be in place.
So far this season we are:
Of 18 matches between last years top 9 and bottom 9.
Some of the percentage discrepancies between playing within the top 9 group Vs out :
North 112% -> 555% (442% Up)
Melb 217% -> 512% (295%)
Bris 95% -> 281% (187%)
The only exceptions to boosted percentage are Adelaide who has only played 1 top 9 game and Geelong who have been pretty consistent.
No team in the bottom 9 has a better percentage against top 9 sides than they do against the bottom 9. Including some huge swings:
Carlton 321% -> 55% (despite an upset win)
Ess 158% -> 42% (despite being 3-0 inside bottom 9 games)
Syd 127% -> 47%
If we had separated the comp into divisions. The ladders would look more like this.
Also worth noting that 2 of the 3 top 9 teams that have suffered an upset, Coll and WB, are also on the bottom of their division. The other upset, was a 2 point win by Carlton over GC. GC playing away, round 1, against a GC that finished 9th in 2022.
Worth noting the inequity in the draw shown here, with Port, GWS & Carlton having only 1 game Vs other bottom 9 sides. While Essendon & Freo who have had 3.
Had we had 2 divisions:
What I haven't considered here is also just how much the scoring has gone up for those top 9 sides when playing the lower sides. They are not just winning, and comfortably, but they are scoring far bigger than before.
Feels like there is a lot more that could be picked through here, but I'll keep an eye on this as the year goes and see how it unfolds.
So far this season we are:
- 1-0 @ 117% Vs last years bottom 9.
- 0-3 @ 47% V last years top 9.
Of 18 matches between last years top 9 and bottom 9.
- Only 3 upsets have occurred.
- All 3 top 9 losers, were in the bottom 4 of the last years top 9.
- Look at the percentages of the top 9 Vs bottom 9.
- Adelaide cashing in wins and percentage against bottom sides, North, Melb and Bris gaining huge percentage.
| Out of Group Games - top 9 group | W | L | Bottom 9 group | |||||
| Adel | 3 | 0 | 247% | StK | 1 | 1 | 69% | |
| Bris | 2 | 0 | 281% | Carlton | 1 | 2 | 55% | |
| North | 2 | 0 | 555% | Haw | 1 | 1 | 52% | |
| Melb | 2 | 0 | 512% | Freo | 0 | 1 | 54% | |
| Geel | 2 | 0 | 166% | Ess | 0 | 1 | 42% | |
| Rich | 2 | 0 | 135% | WC | 0 | 1 | 26% | |
| GC | 1 | 1 | 218% | Syd | 0 | 2 | 47% | |
| Coll | 1 | 1 | 113% | GWS | 0 | 3 | 36% | |
| WB | 0 | 1 | 85% | Port | 0 | 3 | 47% |
Some of the percentage discrepancies between playing within the top 9 group Vs out :
North 112% -> 555% (442% Up)
Melb 217% -> 512% (295%)
Bris 95% -> 281% (187%)
The only exceptions to boosted percentage are Adelaide who has only played 1 top 9 game and Geelong who have been pretty consistent.
No team in the bottom 9 has a better percentage against top 9 sides than they do against the bottom 9. Including some huge swings:
Carlton 321% -> 55% (despite an upset win)
Ess 158% -> 42% (despite being 3-0 inside bottom 9 games)
Syd 127% -> 47%
If we had separated the comp into divisions. The ladders would look more like this.
| Top 9 | W | L | Bottom 9 | W | L | |||
| Melb | 2 | 0 | 217% | Ess | 3 | 0 | 158% | |
| GC | 2 | 0 | 125% | Syd | 2 | 0 | 127% | |
| Adel | 1 | 0 | 342% | Freo | 2 | 1 | 101% | |
| Geel | 1 | 1 | 181% | Carlton | 1 | 0 | 321% | |
| North | 1 | 1 | 112% | Port | 1 | 0 | 117% | |
| Bris | 1 | 1 | 95% | GWS | 0 | 1 | 90% | |
| Rich | 1 | 1 | 69% | Stk | 0 | 2 | 79% | |
| Coll | 0 | 2 | 49% | Haw | 0 | 2 | 62% | |
| WB | 0 | 3 | 52% | WC | 0 | 3 | 46% |
Also worth noting that 2 of the 3 top 9 teams that have suffered an upset, Coll and WB, are also on the bottom of their division. The other upset, was a 2 point win by Carlton over GC. GC playing away, round 1, against a GC that finished 9th in 2022.
Worth noting the inequity in the draw shown here, with Port, GWS & Carlton having only 1 game Vs other bottom 9 sides. While Essendon & Freo who have had 3.
Had we had 2 divisions:
- The mostly unbalanced top 9 Vs bottom 9 games would be avoided and the competitions integrity and competitiveness would improve.
- The incredible inbalance in the fixture could be avoided, by pitting teams against the same teams in their div. Play 16 games a year, your div twice, H&A, it's easily achievable.
- The top 3 group at the top of div 2, despite having all lost games to div 1 teams, would be playing for promotion. In the current format, if they do pinch a top 8 spot, it will be largely on the back of the imbalance in the draw.
- Coll (1-3) and WB (0-4) would now be playing to avoid relegation in their div, rather than nothing, despite their horror starts
What I haven't considered here is also just how much the scoring has gone up for those top 9 sides when playing the lower sides. They are not just winning, and comfortably, but they are scoring far bigger than before.
Feels like there is a lot more that could be picked through here, but I'll keep an eye on this as the year goes and see how it unfolds.
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I really hope we can still win this without Saint and Tahau.
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Selection: Four changes for trip west
A quartet of players come into the side for Port Adelaide's trip to Western Australia for Round 5 action.
IN: J De Melo, J Halfpenny, L Johnson, M MacLachlan
OUT: Y Duursma, S Syme (omitted), A Saint (suspended), I Tahau (injured)
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My girl Jade Halfpenny 
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Really glad that we get to see Jade Halfpenny, Jade De Melo and Lily Johnson again.
Does feel like something needs to be done. This would also allow for an easy 8 game season which hopefully would get more people showing up.
The question the AFL would be asking is are people actually going to show up to see their side in the bottom conference? Also there would be less games and less finals this way.
One week later and it would be 9.45pm
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Jade De Melo was one of our best avenues to goal last year, Lily Johnson proved to be a huge diamond in the rough at Pick #80, and well, Jade Halfpenny is my girl so it’ll be exciting to see all three of them back out there for their first crack this season.
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Amalie Borg needed to mark that!!
Classic ports.
