Moved Thread Who is the greatest, Dangerfield or GAJ By the end of their careers?

[HTPunter]

30 and 3 and he`s not even played that well by his standards.

2014 he lead the Brownlow up until his injury (comfortably - 22 to 17), as well as being named All-Australian, runner up in the Leigh Matthews Trophy, and top 10 in the coaches award (I think - was 4th with 2 rounds to play).
For all the criticism of his leadership, he was also named 3rd best captain by the players that year.

So 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 isn't “hasn't done anything in 5 years” when he was also a B&F and top 20 in the Brownlow in one of the years.

Dangerfield has produced seasons equivalent to his 2008 and 2010-2013 really. Now he has to produce a 2007, 2009, season where Ablett was the clear best player in the best team...and then play good footy without dominating well into his 30s.

 

[HTPunter]

Also the biggest knock on players comparisons with Ablett is his leadership.

Dangerfield is not in the stratosphere of Hodge, Selwood, Voss etc where leadership elevates them another level. He`s not bad and is a decent deputy to Selwood but it's not enough to use massively over Ablett in the sense that Ablett is a 5x Leigh Matthews Trophy and Danger has 1...

 

[carlton]

GAJ comfortably.
When there’s a thread asking if Danger is better than Ablett Sr then we’ll talk

Danger easily but still below Cripps.

 

[Cincinnatus]

How the * was this thread not started by Macpotata?

 

[Jcpdragonx]

At his peak Danger can reach heights Ablett cannot reach. Ablett cannot turn into carey up forward, nor does he have the speed or power Danger posses. Danger's Brownlow was probably the only one of recent memory that was a landslide.

But Ablett has 2 flags and has been at elite level for longer so him right now.

 

[Wojcinski]

FMD. GAJ is top 5 all time. Danger is a gun but pales in comparison.

 

[carlton]

FMD. GAJ is top 5 all time. Danger is a gun but pales in comparison.

Cripps is better than Gally.

 

[8Eyes]

Dangerfield was the best in 2015 and 2016.

No he wasn't.

 

[TigerTime88]

Danger is nowhere near GAJ!

No slight on Danger he is a Brownlow medalist but Ablett IMO could have been a chance to be regarded as the greatest ever if he didn’t go to that battling franchise up North.


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[Jeff76]

Such a pity both players didn’t play at a decent club for their whole career.

 

[mick500]

Such a pity both players didn’t play at a decent club for their whole career.

Ironically it is reverse for both players. We made dangerfield what you have now, and gold Coast made ablett.. Rich and old and starved for success.

 

[Pessimistic]

Dangers career won’t be as good as Chappys was

Chappy underrated

 

[Pessimistic]

At his peak Danger can reach heights Ablett cannot reach. Ablett cannot turn into carey up forward, nor does he have the speed or power Danger posses. Danger's Brownlow was probably the only one of recent memory that was a landslide.

But Ablett has 2 flags and has been at elite level for longer so him right now.

Carey? Carey didn’t need razor ray helping him out and he didn’t butcher tha ball to the level of dangerfield

 

[WeaselWJ]

Not a terrible question, Ablett is the greatest player of the modern era but Dangerfield isn't far behind in second. But I feel like Dangerfield peaked in his 2-year 2016-17 form and he would have to have an even better period than that to go past God Jr.

 

[schmuttt]

People who should have their ability to create threads revoked:

gillo
Adz
Macpotato
Perthboy
mick500

 

[schmuttt]

At his peak Danger can reach heights Ablett cannot reach. Ablett cannot turn into carey up forward, nor does he have the speed or power Danger posses. Danger's Brownlow was probably the only one of recent memory that was a landslide.

But Ablett has 2 flags and has been at elite level for longer so him right now.

LOL

‘Danger is a better athlete so his best is better’

Just no. As good as Dangerfield is he has never had the brain or skills of GAJ, and never will. Hell I reckon if you asked Paddy himself he’d be flattered you even put him in the same tier as GAJ.

 

[PhatBoy]

Ablett, though people like to knock him lately, has been - aside from his injury problems - a player that for 12 seasons now, cannot be clearly (note I said clearly) bettered when he is at his peak. There are players who briefly pop up for periods of half, occasionally a full season, at a sustained level that is equal to or marginally better than Ablett. But when he is on the field, this is a constant: Ablett is truly elite, his worst performances are BETTER than a lot of very good players’ BEST performances. Hell, he was copping flack in some sections of the media for his form in his 6 games or whatever he’s played this year prior to tonight, when in reality he’s been in the best 4-5 players in our team literally every week. If that is what draws you criticism, you are a freak.

 

[Topkent]

Gaj by a mile.

 

[MrDanggazz]

Ablett Jnr (Age 34)
Brownlow votes: 234
Games: 309
Goals: 393
Career Highlights:
Brownlow Medal: 2009, 2013
AFL Premiership (Geelong): 2007, 2009
Carji Greeves Medal (Geelong Best & Fairest Award): 2007, 2009
Geelong F.C. Leading Club Goalkicker Award: 2006
Gold Coast F.C. Club Champion Award: 2011, 2012, 2013, 2017
Gold Coast F.C. Leading Club Goalkicker Award: 2012, 2013
Marcus Ashcroft Medal: 2012, 2014
Gold Coast F.C. Captain: 2011–2016
Leigh Matthews Trophy (AFLPA MVP Award): 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2013
All-Australian: 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 (VC), 2011 (C), 2012 (VC), 2013 (VC), 2014
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2008, 2009
Australian Football Media Association Player of the Year Award: 2007
AFL Coaches Association Team of the Year: 2005
Herald Sun Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012, 2013
The Age Footballer of the Year Award: 2007, 2011, 2013
Lou Richards Medal: 2009, 2013

Patrick Dangerfield (Age 28)
Brownlow votes: 165
Games: 211
Goals: 236
Career Highlights:
Brownlow Medal: 2016
Leigh Matthews Trophy: 2016
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: 2016
All-Australian: 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017
Carji Greeves Medal: 2016, 2017
Malcolm Blight Medal: 2015
Lou Richards Medal: 2016
Showdown Medal: 2012
Herald Sun Player of the Year: 2016
The Age Player of the Year: 2016
AFL Rising Star nominee: 2009

 

[Tiger2709]

I think Dusty could be in the convo if his form holds up.

Has to hold up for a while yet though.

 

[Tiger2709]

Next you'll be asking who is better, Shane Edwards or Cyril?

Obviously shedder

 

[Tiger2709]

At his peak Danger can reach heights Ablett cannot reach. Ablett cannot turn into carey up forward, nor does he have the speed or power Danger posses. Danger's Brownlow was probably the only one of recent memory that was a landslide.

But Ablett has 2 flags and has been at elite level for longer so him right now.

Danger is a long long way from turning into Wayne Carey up forward, Carey kicked North to a couple of flags and starred up forward week in week out, no comparison.

 

[Jeff76]

Ironically it is reverse for both players. We made dangerfield what you have now, and gold Coast made ablett.. Rich and old and starved for success.

Lol good one Mick, you do remember Ablett has a couple flags and shiny medals at Geelong right? Think before writing. And you also made Dangerfield the guy who couldn’t wait to get out of Adelaide then won a Brownlow at his new club.

 

[jezza1435]

GAJ comfortably.
When there’s a thread asking if Danger is better than Ablett Sr then we’ll talk

he’s closer to junior than senior surely

 

[SunshineBoy]

he’s closer to junior than senior surely

He is close to neither