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Holy Mackerel IMAGINE THATimagine , just imagine they dont make finals,right now its beyond the realms of belief that they ARE not going to make finals,i bet u ask any blues supporter if they make finals next year and the overwhelming opinion and answer would be a categorical YES,but just imagine they dont,holy mackeroly
This is exactly why the smart money is going on Carlton to miss the finals.imagine , just imagine they dont make finals,right now its beyond the realms of belief that they ARE not going to make finals,i bet u ask any blues supporter if they make finals next year and the overwhelming opinion and answer would be a categorical YES,but just imagine they dont,holy mackeroly
This is exactly why the smart is going on Carlton to miss the finals.
Load up.
Would suggest you PM Fadge and suggest to him that you both open Betfair accounts and invite him to offer odds on his boast . Alternatively offer him juicy odds to bet on Carlton missing the 8 and then reel in your fish. There's no way, short of a catastrophic injury list that your lot don't make finals in 2023. Alas!Still not sure which category you sit in, as most of your bets have been massive failures
Would suggest you PM Fadge and suggest to him that you both open Betfair accounts and invite him to offer odds on his boast . Alternatively offer him juicy odds to bet on Carlton missing the 8 and then reel in your fish. There's no way, short of a catastrophic injury list that your lot don't make finals in 2023. Alas!
I'm tipping silence will be the reply by the way.
Yeah, you really need to look beyond Carlton's top 5 players to make an astute assessment as to their 2023 prospects.Would suggest you PM Fadge and suggest to him that you both open Betfair accounts and invite him to offer odds on his boast . Alternatively offer him juicy odds to bet on Carlton missing the 8 and then reel in your fish. There's no way, short of a catastrophic injury list that your lot don't make finals in 2023. Alas!
I'm tipping silence will be the reply by the way.
Remind me how Freo, Bulldogs or Sydney improved their lists? Anyway, this isn't the NBA where adding one player is going to significantly improve a team.Yeah, you really need to look beyond Carlton's top 5 players to make an astute assessment as to their 2023 prospects.
They finished 9th this season with a Brownlow Medallist, Coleman Medallist and 90% of games from their top 9 players (same percentage as top 4 teams with the exception of Collingwood, who had 83%).
Port will be straight back into flag contention courtesy of their off-season recruiting, Saints would be expecting to make finals as would Gold Coast (and both teams beat Carlton in 2022). That's before we talk about any risers such as Adelaide who are currently getting a lot of love on this forum.
Then we have last season's top 8, who have all improved their lists moreso than Carlton based on their trade activity.
I rate Carlton about a $2.40 chance to make the top 8 next year, so if the betting agencies are giving me those odds to miss the top 8, of course I'm going to pounce.
Candy, baby.
The % for injuries is very dependant on who you consider top 9 (a strange number to pick). You keep stating this as if it is a definite statistic. By my calcs Pies were at 95% (I don't consider Grundy who was traded for a pack of chips or Adams in Pies top 9) and Carlton are at 83%.Yeah, you really need to look beyond Carlton's top 5 players to make an astute assessment as to their 2023 prospects.
They finished 9th this season with a Brownlow Medallist, Coleman Medallist and 90% of games from their top 9 players (same percentage as top 4 teams with the exception of Collingwood, who had 83%).
Port will be straight back into flag contention courtesy of their off-season recruiting, Saints would be expecting to make finals as would Gold Coast (and both teams beat Carlton in 2022). That's before we talk about any risers such as Adelaide who are currently getting a lot of love on this forum.
Then we have last season's top 8, who have all improved their lists moreso than Carlton based on their trade activity.
I rate Carlton about a $2.40 chance to make the top 8 next year, so if the betting agencies are giving me those odds to miss the top 8, of course I'm going to pounce.
Candy, baby.
Neither Grundy nor Adams in Collingwood's top 9 players at the start of the 2022 season?The % for injuries is very dependant on who you consider top 9 (a strange number to pick). You keep stating this as if it is a definite statistic. By my calcs Pies were at 95% (I don't consider Grundy who was traded for a pack of chips or Adams in Pies top 9) and Carlton are at 83%.
Two of them didn't play in that one point thrashing by Collingwood and no 10 didn't play either.Neither Grundy nor Adams in Collingwood's top 9 players at the start of the 2022 season?
Oh my.
The Top 9 for Carlton are obvious:
Cripps
Walsh
Curnow
Weitering
Harry
Saad
Docherty
Hewett
Cerra
I would work out who was missing from Collingwood in the games we played against Carlton, except excuses are for losers...Two of them didn't play in that one point thrashing by Collingwood and no 10 didn't play either.
Adams in the last game, and that ruckman that didn't suit your game plan, our blokes play Carlton win.I would work out who was missing from Collingwood in the games we played against Carlton, except excuses are for losers...
Does that mean you would have made finals?Adams in the last game, and that ruckman that didn't suit your game plan, our blokes play Carlton win.
Grundy and Adams may have been in the Pies top 9 players at the start of the year but by the end of the year based on the exposed form (and in Grundys case the fact the coach was trying to punt him half way through the year) they clearly were not. You are looking at the players you wouldn't want to lose in 2021 not 2022.Neither Grundy nor Adams in Collingwood's top 9 players at the start of the 2022 season?
Oh my.
The Top 9 for Carlton are obvious:
Cripps
Walsh
Curnow
Weitering
Harry
Saad
Docherty
Hewett
Cerra
Pretty sure Grundy and Adams, assuming they play close to the standard of footy we have consistently seen from them over the past handful of years, would sit comfortably in any team's top 9 players.Grundy and Adams may have been in the Pies top 9 players at the start of the year but by the end of the year based on the exposed form (and in Grundys case the fact the coach was trying to punt him half way through the year) they clearly were not. You are looking at the players you wouldn't want to lose in 2021 not 2022.
If we are listing players in the top 9 at the start of the year, Docherty coming in without a preseason after recovering from cancer and Curnow having not played good footy in 2.5 years were not in ours. Expectations on both players was very low.
Cerra wasn't in our top 9 at the start of the year or the end year. He came 10th in the b&f with a number of players with injury effected years finishing behind him.