Welcome to Hawthorn Pick 22: Kieran Lovell

[Thaihawk]

Lol I am a Tasmanian...

As one, we believe both of you.

 

[Roughies Boys]

As one, we believe both of you.

Hahaha! I wonder if that is a compliment!!! Wish I was still doing work for Hawthorn.

 

[Thaihawk]

Hahaha! I wonder if that is a compliment!!! Wish I was still doing work for Hawthorn.

Sorry, UH, it's definitely not a compliment, but refers to the old belief that Tasweigens have two heads.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Sorry, UH, it's definitely not a compliment, but refers to the old belief that Tasweigens have two heads.

Not that old, never heard that one before.

 

[Gralin]

Not that old, never heard that one before.

It's old like people calling rangas Bluey, get strange looks from kids today about that one

 

[Roughies Boys]

It's old like people calling rangas Bluey, get strange looks from kids today about that one

I reckon, they'd rather be having banter or throwing a wubba

 

[threesixpio]

 

[Thaihawk]

Not that old, never heard that one before.

I'm not old, UH, I'm ancient.

 

[Blaze Storm]

Sorry, UH, it's definitely not a compliment, but refers to the old belief that Tasweigens have two heads.

Why can't tasmanian's swim?
If they could, they'd be Victorians.

 

[StalkingHawk]

This guy, and Hardwick, will make it. Just watched nab2 and their post game interview. Composed, excited, but not overawed at all. Can see these guys each getting at least half a dozen games this year. Hope they get a look in Nab 3!

 

[threesixpio]

This guy, and Hardwick, will make it. Just watched nab2 and their post game interview. Composed, excited, but not overawed at all. Can see these guys each getting at least half a dozen games this year. Hope they get a look in Nab 3!

And if Burton makes it too the 2015 draft is killer

Hope they do

 

[The Post Man]

And if Burton makes it too the 2015 draft is killer

Hope they do

That's a very good point. Whilst we aren't talking about KPP, if all 3 end up fulfilling their potential, the 2015 draft could come as close as any to rivalling 2004 for the Hawks! I really like what Lovell & Hardwick has shown already, albeit only a small sample size. However, Burton could be the one!

 

[threesixpio]

That's a very good point. Whilst we aren't talking about KPP, if all 3 end up fulfilling their potential, the 2015 draft could come as close as any to rivalling 2004 for the Hawks! I really like what Lovell & Hardwick has shown already, albeit only a small sample size. However, Burton could be the one!

Nah - we just rely on heaps of free agents don't we?

 

[halfback dasher]

All of this from a shallow draft ...

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

This guy, and Hardwick, will make it. Just watched nab2 and their post game interview. Composed, excited, but not overawed at all. Can see these guys each getting at least half a dozen games this year. Hope they get a look in Nab 3!

I just don't see it.

If they are getting half a dozen games each we either have a lot of injuries or they have gone past JOR, Howe, Sicily, Whitecross, Langford, Hartung...

Very promising but I think it will be 12 months time before they area ear-marked for that number of games.

Clarko said he sees 8 - 10 guys ready to get games from the fringe and I saw that as Hartung, Langers, Litherland, Brand, Sicily, O'Brien, Howe, JOR, Heatherley...

I put these two at the next level with Miles, Pittonet, Burton...

 

[halfback dasher]

I just don't see it.

If they are getting half a dozen games each we either have a lot of injuries or they have gone past JOR, Howe, Sicily, Whitecross, Langford, Hartung...

Very promising but I think it will be 12 months time before they area ear-marked for that number of games.

Clarko said he sees 8 - 10 guys ready to get games from the fringe and I saw that as Hartung, Langers, Litherland, Brand, Sicily, O'Brien, Howe, JOR, Heatherley...

I put these two at the next level with Miles, Pittonet, Burton...

CLA , if Gus is a player ill do strange things to myself never thought possible .....

 

[StalkingHawk]

I just don't see it.

If they are getting half a dozen games each we either have a lot of injuries or they have gone past JOR, Howe, Sicily, Whitecross, Langford, Hartung...

Very promising but I think it will be 12 months time before they area ear-marked for that number of games.

Clarko said he sees 8 - 10 guys ready to get games from the fringe and I saw that as Hartung, Langers, Litherland, Brand, Sicily, O'Brien, Howe, JOR, Heatherley...

I put these two at the next level with Miles, Pittonet, Burton...

We've got 4 vacancies at the moment.
4x22 = 88
Your 9, minus Litherland,
88/8 = 11 games each on average.

plus Lovell and Hardwick... and taking into account injuries and resting players....

Pretty confident Lovell and Hardwick will play 6 games each (excuse my very rough math!).

 

[Blaze Storm]

I just don't see it.

If they are getting half a dozen games each we either have a lot of injuries or they have gone past JOR, Howe, Sicily, Whitecross, Langford, Hartung...

Very promising but I think it will be 12 months time before they area ear-marked for that number of games.

Clarko said he sees 8 - 10 guys ready to get games from the fringe and I saw that as Hartung, Langers, Litherland, Brand, Sicily, O'Brien, Howe, JOR, Heatherley...

I put these two at the next level with Miles, Pittonet, Burton...

Of the players mentioned, I would have it as

Tier 1 (showed strong signs in the seniors): Hartung, Langford, Howe, Swiss pre-injury
Tier 2 (Needs more time in seniors to cement claim): Sicily, Brand, JOR, Heatherley, Swiss post-injury
Tier 3 (Still relatively unknown, but flashes of promise and brilliance- one to watch): Miles, Lovell, Hardwick
Tier 4 (serviceable to exceptional at VFL-level but doesn't translate to AFL yet): Litherland, Pittonet, TOB

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

CLA , if Gus is a player ill do strange things to myself never thought possible .....

Don't get me wrong, I don't rate Litherland that highly at all but it appears the club does...

 

[threesixpio]

Don't get me wrong, I don't rate Litherland that highly at all but it appears the club does...

I certainly used to. Not giving up hope he can fix up his disposal under pressure. Essentially Langers has the same issue although his role is very different so it's not as pressing

 

[Gralin]

I certainly used to. Not giving up hope he can fix up his disposal under pressure. Essentially Langers has the same issue although his role is very different so it's not as pressing

His first game was good but he doesn't seem to have grown as a player since then which is frustrating.
Every year I hope he's spent the off season working on his decision making and short kicking game, maybe he has but it doesn't look like it even at an intraclub match so I've given up on him being any more than he is.

 

[play2win]

CLA , if Gus is a player ill do strange things to myself never thought possible .....

Halfway through last season I thought I was seeing his development and presence around the contest at box hill going quite well, but the same questions remain regarding his decision making with his disposals. Having only briefly seen him in 2 pre season games I'm surprised that so many here are ready to jump off him, although I have to agree he hasn't done himself any favours in those games. Maybe I'm too optimistic but I'm going with my natural assumption of backing our systems and that he has also put in a good preseason and will be a better player over this coming season.

 

[bluespooner]

Pretty confident Lovell and Hardwick will play 6 games each (excuse my very rough math!).

Pretty confident that Lovell, Hardwick and Burton will play 0 games between them in 2016.

As to whether they have successful careers well that one is up in the air. I will say that Litherland will play 6 games this season.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Halfway through last season I thought I was seeing his development and presence around the contest at box hill going quite well, but the same questions remain regarding his decision making with his disposals. Having only briefly seen him in 2 pre season games I'm surprised that so many here are ready to jump off him, although I have to agree he hasn't done himself any favours in those games. Maybe I'm too optimistic but I'm going with my natural assumption of backing our systems and that he has also put in a good preseason and will be a better player over this coming season.

Just so we are clear p2w, i'm not jumping off him - I always found his decision making and disposal so poor that I was never even close to the Liquorland Bandwagon

 

[threesixpio]

Halfway through last season I thought I was seeing his development, and presence around the contest at box hill going quite well, but the same questions remain regarding his decision making with his disposals. Haa,evving only briefly seen him in 2 pre season games I'm surprised b v so many here are ready to jump off him, although I have to agree he hasn'tazuzfuyffvi done himself any favours in those games. Maybe I'm too GAoptimistic but A'm going with my natural assumption of backing our systems and that he has also put in a good preseason and will be a better player over this coming season.

Just so we are clear p2w, i'm not jumping off him - I always found his decision making and disposal so poor that I was never even close to the Liquorland Bandwagon

Did you like his game against Sydney at the MCG in 2014? I thought he did a few good things that night. It's only one game but I left feeling pretty happy with him


He was signed the next week too


He was also dropped though