List Mgmt. 2021 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Hi everyone, for those interested some great links plus the Big Footy Draft, Trade & Free Agency twitter as per below:

 

[Bandicoot]

What price have we paid?

OK, I'll bite. We only paying him $200K. OK?? Why do all you lot think that we are in a salary cap squeeze??? Buddy's coming into one of his lowest salary years.
Who do YOU think most of our 2022 cap is going to other than Bud's $900K? Maybe we're paying Taylor and Clark $700K each.
I suppose you think that's not true because it has only been reported in the media and we shouldn't believe anything we hear from the media as #brad cooper continues to tell me.
By the way, the media keep telling us about all the problems with covid. I gather you think that's all a conspiracy too.
Sure, journalists get some things wrong but they speak to the player's managers etc far more than what we do.

 

[Millky95]

Maybe we're paying Taylor and Clark $700K each.

Wouldn't surprise me tbh

 

[rustycrate]

we'll get alot more than that.
If Dawson went to the crows, p4 would be in the conversation. Crows won't give up p4, but gives an indication of Dawsons worth.
Swans dont need picks. We've heaps of young talent. Swans need cash!
I suggested a few pages back (hypothetically) Swans trade Dawson for Ladhams. Dawson is much more valuable than Ladhams, so instead of Ladhams and a pick, why not get creative (Kinnear is very creative) and get Ladhams and Port pay his salary in 2022 - Hes contracted with Port unto end of 2022.
or.. Swans could trade Dawson for Hayes. Dawson is much more valuable than Hayes.. Port pay hayes salary 2022/23

Swans lose Dawson, gain a young ruck and port pay some or all of the young rucks salary. Swans get some spare cash
Port get Dawson, Keep their draft picks and end up with 2 x rucks - Lycett (28yo) + Hayes or Ladhams

Dawson is not going anywhere. Sorry Beach

 

[Punts]

Hope we don’t trade Dawson for ladhams

 

[SwansProudly]

This may be ignorant of me, but why are we so squeezed on the salary cap as has been reported lately. I remember seeing an article a couple of years back how now tippet was gone we were poised to pull in a big name in the trade period, but we never did. Apart from Franklin where else would the majority of our salary be going.

* Just found this (By the Herald Sun so take with a grain of salt) I'm surprised Heeney is the 13th highest paid player in the comp. Not saying he isn't worth it.

Highest earning players in the AFL
The highest paid AFL players have been revealed with the top earner raking in an eye-watering $1.5million a season.
Below is a list of the top 25 earning players in the sport:
1) Lance Franklin (Sydney Swans): $1.45million to $1.5million
2) Jeremy McGovern (West Coast): $1.2million to $1.25million
3) Dustin Martin (Richmond): $1.2million to $1.25million
4) Nat Fyfe (Fremantle): $1.075million to $1.1million
5) Brodie Grundy (Collingwood): $925,000 to $975,000
6) Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong): $900,000 to $950,000
7) Patrick Cripps (Carlton): $900,000 to $950,000
8) Stephen Coniglio (GWS): $900,000 to $950,000
9) Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs): $900,000 to $950,000
10) Jeremy Cameron (Geelong): $850,000 to $900,000
11) Adam Treloar (Western Bulldogs): $850,000 to $900,000
12) Rory Sloane (Adelaide): $825,000 to $875,000
13) Isaac Heeney (Sydney): $825,000 to $875,000
14) Christian Petracca (Melbourne): $800,000 to $850,000
15) Lachie Whitfield (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
16) Toby Green (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
17) Josh Kelly (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
18) Max Gawn (Melbourne): $800,00 to $850,000
19) Brad Hill (St Kilda): $800,000 to $850,000
20) Joe Daniher (Brisbane): $800,000 to $850,000
21) Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn): $800,000 to $850,000
22) Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide): $800,000 to $850,000
23) Zac Williams (Carlton): $775,000 to $825,000
24) Jaeger O'Meara (Hawthorn): $775,000 to $825,000
25) Jacob Weitering (Carlton): $775,000 to $825,000
4 Jul 2021

Lance Franklin is the highest paid AFL player with $1.5million salary

The AFL's highest paid players have been revealed with the top earner bringing in $1.5million a season despite not winning a premiership for his team.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BloodySwan]

Weitering must have been in the works for a while. How else do you expect Carlton to have 3 of the highest paid players and bring in Hewett & Cerra in the same offseason? They have to offload someone

 

[Del198236]

Hope we don’t trade Dawson for ladhams

just an alternative trade hypothetical.. where Swans lose 1 gun and gain a need (young ruck) and free up approx $1m.. Dont pay Dawson or Sinclare or young ruck.
Basically selling a high draft pick for cash

I want to keep Dawson - consider him the priority signing equal to or more important than Parker

 

[Bandicoot]

Have my 2nd shot tomorrow.

It was pointed more at brad cooper and Jimbo OZ who believe we should not believe anything we read or hear in the media.

 

[Del198236]

Highest earning players in the AFL
The highest paid AFL players have been revealed with the top earner raking in an eye-watering $1.5million a season.
Below is a list of the top 25 earning players in the sport:
1) Lance Franklin (Sydney Swans): $1.45million to $1.5million
2) Jeremy McGovern (West Coast): $1.2million to $1.25million
3) Dustin Martin (Richmond): $1.2million to $1.25million
4) Nat Fyfe (Fremantle): $1.075million to $1.1million
5) Brodie Grundy (Collingwood): $925,000 to $975,000
6) Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong): $900,000 to $950,000
7) Patrick Cripps (Carlton): $900,000 to $950,000
8) Stephen Coniglio (GWS): $900,000 to $950,000
9) Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs): $900,000 to $950,000
10) Jeremy Cameron (Geelong): $850,000 to $900,000
11) Adam Treloar (Western Bulldogs): $850,000 to $900,000
12) Rory Sloane (Adelaide): $825,000 to $875,000
13) Isaac Heeney (Sydney): $825,000 to $875,000
14) Christian Petracca (Melbourne): $800,000 to $850,000
15) Lachie Whitfield (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
16) Toby Green (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
17) Josh Kelly (GWS): $800,000 to $850,000
18) Max Gawn (Melbourne): $800,00 to $850,000
19) Brad Hill (St Kilda): $800,000 to $850,000
20) Joe Daniher (Brisbane): $800,000 to $850,000
21) Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn): $800,000 to $850,000
22) Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide): $800,000 to $850,000
23) Zac Williams (Carlton): $775,000 to $825,000
24) Jaeger O'Meara (Hawthorn): $775,000 to $825,000
25) Jacob Weitering (Carlton): $775,000 to $825,000
4 Jul 2021

Lance Franklin is the highest paid AFL player with $1.5million salary

The AFL's highest paid players have been revealed with the top earner bringing in $1.5million a season despite not winning a premiership for his team.

www.dailymail.co.uk

GWS now have 5th (Kelly new contract of $1m/yr), 8th, 15th and 16th highest paid players. And can still sign Hopper, Green and others this year.
Thats definitely conspiracy material!!!!

 

[Punts]

Port have an all aus chb?

 

[The King!]

heeney overpaid then

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

heeney overpaid then

Not sure how accurate that list is but if its true then yes he is slightly overpaid.

 

[RUNVS]

Not sure how accurate that list is but if its true then yes he is slightly overpaid.

Considering he has never gotten an AA I would say 13th in the AFL in terms of pay is very overpaid.

 

[Jimbo OZ]

OK, I'll bite. We only paying him $200K. OK?? Why do all you lot think that we are in a salary cap squeeze??? Buddy's coming into one of his lowest salary years.
Who do YOU think most of our 2022 cap is going to other than Bud's $900K? Maybe we're paying Taylor and Clark $700K each.
I suppose you think that's not true because it has only been reported in the media and we shouldn't believe anything we hear from the media as #brad cooper continues to tell me.
By the way, the media keep telling us about all the problems with covid. I gather you think that's all a conspiracy too.
Sure, journalists get some things wrong but they speak to the player's managers etc far more than what we do.

Why jump at shadows now? We received some good news as a club today and yet a lot of the chat on here is crying about milk that hasn't been spilt yet. Sure, come on here and jump and scream when it is confirmed that we have blown up our list like Collingwood did last year but until that happens, nothing is confirmed except that we re-signed Luke Parker.

 

[The King!]

Not sure how accurate that list is but if its true then yes he is slightly overpaid.

probably bullshit, who knows

but i mean there are also a few worse ones there too

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Considering he has never gotten an AA I would say 13th in the AFL in terms of pay is very overpaid.

Yer bit of a head scratcher he is approaching elite player salary being paid more than Petracca!

 

[Tedeski]

Based on Harley’s interview, there is a decent chance of losing Hewett. Decent chance we lose others too but list changes happen every year. Whether we lose Hewett or not means diddly squat about our salary cap position. I think it is fair to say that our list managers work hard every year to build a fantastic list under the difficult circumstances of Sydney cost of living. Over the last few years we’ve lost Zak Jones, Rohan, Hanners, and Aliir. We have also retained a lot too and have a list that is the envy of most of the comp.

Hewitt- played as a defender when we had Warner & JPK running around in the midfield. Can be traded with out too much damage done.

Reid- Wasn't picked for our final when available & would normally be straight in. Can be traded without too much damage done.

Fox- Wasn't picked as part of the starting 22 in the final. Perhaps then not part of the future going forward so no damage done.

Ronke, Gray, Clarke, Brand, Ling, Sinclair can all be delisted/traded/ rerookied. Money saved as some would be on more than they need to be on.

 

[Jimbo OZ]

It was pointed more at brad cooper and Jimbo OZ who believe we should not believe anything we read or hear in the media.

I think you're putting words in my mouth.

 

[RUNVS]

Vaccination rates have saved Glady's backside.

and she only got that because the Federal government directed more vaccines to NSW.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

BS.

Are you joking? she is directly responsible for the 1200-1500 daily cases by not going hard enough at the beginning.

 

[Millky95]

Port have an all aus chb?

No they have an AA loose intercept defender

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

I think you're putting words in my mouth.

In all fairness I do not believe Andrew Bolt or Murdoch/Sky nonsense

J Ralph and Robbo the Slobbarian have the credibility of Lord Haw Haw.

 

[rustycrate]

Vaccination rates have saved Glady's backside.

And Australia. If the vaccination rates were much lower the amount of cases would have risen much faster and spilled into other states.
I reckon we will be 90%+ vaccinated by Jan 1 and living life with COVID. What that means entirely I don't know.
But I reckon sport will be on as usual. Life will be normal again for the fully vaccinated.
That means we live again. Hopefully. And I'm always hopeful.

 

[Del198236]

Hewitt- played as a defender when we had Warner & JPK running around in the midfield. Can be traded with out too much damage done.

Reid- Wasn't picked for our final when available & would normally be straight in. Can be traded without too much damage done.

Fox- Wasn't picked as part of the starting 22 in the final. Perhaps then not part of the future going forward so no damage done.

Ronke, Gray, Clarke, Brand, Ling, Sinclair can all be delisted/traded/ rerookied. Money saved as some would be on more than they need to be on.

that's 9 players out.
Paddy Mac comes in, take 6-7 in national and rookie draft and get to minimum list size
Theres a saving of approx $1.5m

Can you go talk to Kinnear please Ted

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

We should move the CV Discussion to the right thread.

Meanwhile in great news the Bloods have confirmed they are not drafting Sadas Binchicken