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How do you know they weren’t looking to serve anyway, and any old philosophy of service would have inspired them to take the plunge?
Do you really think another philosophy would have the same power to inspire so many to serve others ?
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What about us atheists, are we welcome in this white Christian utopian homogeneous society?
What more could you want?Consideration and compassion for others
Supporting the vulnerable members of society
I don't accept any of your points here are not just your religious indoctrination talking.Firstly I am not advocating the churches run the country or have some control over government.
Whatever crimes the churches have done and there are some bad ones via a few sick evil individuals the churches have done far more good than bad.
The catholic church a few years ago and I assume its similar today funded around 50% of all palliative care in this country.
The main takeaway of the new testament is service to others. I will give you an example of someone in my life inspired by Christianity to help others.
My GP i have been seeing since I was born is from an Eastern European country and speaks that language. He is roughly 70 and has had a few bouts of cancer. More than enough money to retire. He still keeps on working 5 long days a week to help his patients many of whom are old with complex health conditions he understands and they often have limited English.
This just one of tens of thousands of examples of people in our great nation who have been inspired by their Christian faith to serve others.
What more could you want?
Everything flows from that. The rest is just Taliban sh*t.
What do we do with Autistics kids who won't make appropriate eye contact? Do you have a solution for that?
OK. No, you can’t just “have a talk” to a person on the spectrum
Yeah I’m not going down this path. You have a childish view of the world. Not my job to bring you up to speed.
I know for a fact that some of the people who advocate for a homogeneous society, are racist.
I have an inkling the idea is to keep out anyone not "homogenous" enough eg coloured, gay etcThis is an interesting conversation, but I can only find inconsistency in this - if in fact you're using the term 'racist' in conscious context (i:e deliberate racism).
How can someone who condones racism view a society as homogenous that contains more than one 'culture'?
It's like a Christian bot.OK. No, you can’t just “have a talk” to a person on the spectrum
Yeah I’m not going down this path. You have a childish view of the world. Not my job to bring you up to speed.
I have an inkling the idea is to keep out anyone not "homogenous" enough eg coloured, gay etc
No doubt.Then that would be separatist, not homogeneous, certainly not harmonious
No doubt.
Your point?
The religious want the world to be the same......as them.
I'd say that most of these are important to you, because they're what you grew up with, and what you've lived with.Some examples include
Speaking English
Children attending school
Those able to should work
Obey the law
Consideration and compassion for others
Supporting the vulnerable members of society
The primary responsibility for raising children belongs to the parents
Treating people fairly
Basic manners such as saying thank you
Some examples include
Speaking English -Immigration
Children attending school -Indigenous
Those able to should work -Immigrants, Indigenous
Obey the law - Immigrants, Indigenous
The primary responsibility for raising children belongs to the parents -LGBTQ+
Children as a preference should have a Dad and Mum -LGBTQ+
Recognise there are two biological genders both of which naturally have distinct behavioural characteristics -LGBTQ+
I'd say that most of these are important to you, because they're what you grew up with, and what you've lived with.
Good meme. My name jeff.I'm going to contend this, from my point of view of just being a good person, and for good reason.
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Now I'm in no way religious, however these examples that Boronia67 has provided are not because 'back in my day' or 'that's how we grew up'. Not to me anyway. I don't know what his thoughts are on that.
It's not about just you and me it's about society as a whole - that's why western liberal democratic societies have been so successful, more than any other model.
All of those points are totally reasonable and are also based in practic i:e the overwhelming majority of society functions well because of them, in our liberal democratic one anyway. - that's my point of view. That's about as close as you're going to get to your harmonious society.
I will concede that there will be some that will use these 'examples' to hide behind for the purposes of their bias / hate BUT it's fair argument that those number in the very few.
And this is where the barney's start, immediately the fringe left will use these examples and believe it's all hatred and bias and throw out the phobe / sexist / racist card. - like I said there's a few but most folk just want to live in a peaceful help out the person next to you society.
Just to clarify my position, I'm not religious and certainly not right wing, and in no way am I left.
So here goes, to relate these examples that you've added the bolded on.
Let's use speaking English.
I cannot understand how this is unreasonable, we live in a country where the first language is that and would be advantageous to know it.
Immediately there'll be those that will label me racist, when it has zero to do with that, it's all about practic. It's a win win for the engaging parties because they understand what the other is saying. It's a no brainer.
Sure there are those a**holes who will use it because they are racist, but that is the minuscule minority.
I'm actually for a progressive society so long as it's practical, all of the examples you've added bolded to ARE practical for a functioning society. Complete and utter opposition to them for the noble sentiment of minority groups is not practical for anyone. There has to be compromise (progress), and largely our societies(s) have provided as much as practically possible to that compromise.
No doubt.
Your point?
The religious want the world to be the same......as them.
Why not?In a homogeneous society we wouldn't have these awful lockdowns in Melbourne and Sydney.