But if a GWS supporter, I bet you would liberally release the contents of every orifice over him to douse the flames.
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sr36
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What if it was an oil fire?
Then he could make a sacrifice of his own life and smother the flames with his body.
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Wouldn't be too pleasant if he'd already emptied all his orifices on him.
The Ian McOrist "debut" story comes up every now and then, but his 6-goal game was game no. 2! He came on off the bench in the last quarter in his official debut, recording just the one kick:
The 6-goal game was his first full game.
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Personally, thought it was a 5 week penalty, guilty plea or no.
If you want to send a message about violence and fair-play, this was the chance.
Wasn't accidental - A deliberate, forceful act that could have caused serious damage. Terrible look for the game.
If you want to send a message about violence and fair-play, this was the chance.
Wasn't accidental - A deliberate, forceful act that could have caused serious damage. Terrible look for the game.
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Saw someone else quote this and thought it was made after the weekend.
Do you still have the same thoughts after another couple of games with multiple goals
Agree it is a tough position. Betts , Milne are the two best in recent memory to perform pretty consistently.
Probably more important question , what are you looking for in a best 22 small forward if Jack isnt it
Yeah I think he’s already shown more than enough forward craft to know he’s not a one hit wonder. He’ll undoubtedly be around for years to come unless he is badly injured. I don’t think many experts would be thinking he is not going to have a very high chance of making it.
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The same thing happens about Ricky Barham and his first game which was v Hawthorn in 1977 where he kicked 5 but v Carlton a few weeks earlier when we won by 102 points and he came off the bench.
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Cody Weightman has entered the conversation.Other clubs only WISH they had someone as as hate-able ginnivan
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Seriously? Contributing defensively though an occasional chase is so detrimental to his goal kicking he shouldn’t bother?
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Because he Pleaded Guilty
Not for me, I love him
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Stacks up pretty well against both Betts and Milne when compared at the same age.
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Twice, they could have sent that message, with deliberate non football acts, designed to hurt or injure, against the same player in the space of a couple of weeks.
It’s baffling that the AFL lets this stuff go with minor punishments and then wonder why the MRO and tribunal aren’t respected by the wider football community.
In either case if Jack had been injured/concussed etc the penalty would have been double you would think.
I'm with you Apex, a non footy 'dog' act should by definition attract a thug tax.
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I was there at the Carlton game and remember Ricky coming on. I named my son after Ricky Barham and Ricky Watt.
Two classy wingers.
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My son wasn't named after any player, but we have 2 at the Pies!I was there at the Carlton game and remember Ricky coming on. I named my son after Ricky Barham and Ricky Watt.
I agree. It annoys me when Fly has a dig and says maybe he should kick the goal first before he celebrates. He doesn't understand how much the Collingwood crowd have been waiting for another young gun to excite and inflame their passion. Why throw a wet blanket over him? Undoubtedly he will stuff up and miss a sitter or get distracted and make a mistake but that's part of the package. Stop trying to crush the personality in players. It is great for the game. If he gets an early one against the Blues it will set both sets of supporters alight and helps create genuine feeling in the game-something many games lack.
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It did cop a thug tax. It went to the tribunal because it was a thug act. Under the MRO it would have just been a fine at most. I don't understand why they are reducing sentences due to pleading guilty. The sentence didn't match the language the tribunal used to describe the incident. Them carrying on about the seriousness and then only giving two weeks is really silly.
Agreed. I reckon Jack and Cody are cut from the same cloth.
Love watching both of them.
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Agreed but 'silly' is a very generous description.
Spot on. At 185cm he's not reliant on one skill, he's a genuine (short) full forward. His overhead marking is adequate, his body work is sublime, he can rove front and centre, take marks on the lead win frees in the packs etc. He has multiple ways of getting the ball, has serious skills to evade tackles when he does have it and is a deadly set shot from anywhere.
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