Preview Finals Week 1: Collingwood v Melbourne, Thursday 7 September, MCG, 7.20pm

[Finnishpie]

Well we do need to stop one of them at least from dominating defensively, so l'm sure we are looking at putting a plan into place to diminish the influence of either May or Lever....

Absolutely agree there - I mentioned it in the preview as super important. I just think we'll assign the tasks to McStay, Mihocek and the ruckmen. We have the extra ruck to combat Gawn but also to do exactly this job.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

This gives even more detail and makes even more sense from a statistical point of view

 

[YouBeauty]

Goes to show our depth when a guy thats played 80 odd in a row can't get a game. Then the other team has to bring in hack VFL players to cover for injuries.

 

[Finnishpie]

If noble is out must me naicos playing ?

We need noble for picket

Absolute howler of a decision

Heart and sole player

Sole of the shoe player?! That's harsh PDB!

I reckon it's harsh but that last player omitted was always gonna be harsh. WHE trained with the backs so we're relying on him and Markov methinks.

Zero chance of Daicos.

 

[Finnishpie]

I was told last year that only 12 months into the job Fly had done enough to earn my trust to back him in chasing McStay.

Same people now not trusting Fly's judgment in dropping Noble. Odd.

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I'd stay away from thinking what you're told.

No one is perfect and McRae certainly isn't. He's made a few mistakes in my mind.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I'd stay away from thinking what you're told.

No one is perfect and McRae certainly isn't. He's made a few mistakes in my mind.

Probably fair.

 

[TW Sherrin]

Ginnivan will be the perfect sub. He'll inject energy into the game if its needed.

Noble is a big call. Maybe there's no match up for him. Markov has taken his spot.

 

[anshell]

Goes to show our depth when a guy thats played 80 odd in a row can't get a game. Then the other team has to bring in hack VFL players to cover for injuries.

Good point.If I was a Melbourne supporter,I wouldn’t be too happy about them bringing back a player who hasn’t played senior football for 14 weeks.

 

[LuckyLee]

Noble dropped, Ginni Sub

Wow. I'm stunned.

Noble has been a bit down on his best in recent times - much like the whole team - but to my eye, no player has embodied Fly's manic "back yourself and move the ball forward quickly" style more than Noble. He is consistently one of our greatest metres gained contributors and moves the ball very quickly through his combo of running with the ball and kicking with penetration.

Its a big call. Will look like genius if we win and will be questioned if we lose.

 

[legendstatus]

Not surprised but didn’t think Fly would to do it. Good call, weak one on one and turns it over

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Pies seem to have a tall slow side in mind...more evidence with Noble out. Could be risky.

Unless Nick is back

 

[anshell]

So Lipinski made the cut,I’m assuming?Why does he always seem to avoid scrutiny from the selectors?

 

[TheGreatSwan]

This "Best 23" concept is seriously flawed. In reality there is many things to consider: injuries, form, structure, matchups, weather conditions etc. Squads win premierships not "best 23".

Even if Johnny F'n Noble isn't running out onto the MCG tomorrow, he is still as important as everyone playing tomorrow. I'm a firm believer that each team is good as their depth. We know if somebody was to go down, the next man up is little Johnny and we know exactly what we will get from him. That is the strength of our team!

Go Pies!

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Pies seem to have a tall slow side in mind...more evidence with Noble out. Could be risky.

Unless Nick is back

I have to admit, even in dry weather it’s a pretty slow team

In the wet it’s also tall and slow and rain is forecast for the start of the game

 

[swoop42]

With Noble dropped is this an indication that Nick is earmarked for a role across half back again when he returns?

For the record Noble is 3rd for meters gained average at Collingwood this season.

2023 Collingwood Metres Gained Per Game Leaders

2023 Collingwood Metres Gained Per Game Leaders.

www.footywire.com

2nd for rebound 50's

2023 Collingwood Rebound 50s Per Game Leaders

2023 Collingwood Rebound 50s Per Game Leaders.

www.footywire.com

6th for effective disposals

2023 Collingwood Effective Disposals Per Game Leaders

2023 Collingwood Effective Disposals Per Game Leaders.

www.footywire.com

 

[josewales]

if it's wet and slippery I can see the logic in the Noble omission. Against Port in these type of conditions he was too easily pushed off the ball in the contest.

 

[Big Bryza]

Someone had to make way, but I don’t like Ginni as sub. Prefer Lippa.

You want the sub to offer impact. That's Ginni right there for you.

 

[YouBeauty]

I think the club knows Melbourne won't let us run the ball out of their 50, we'll have to kick it out.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I have to admit, even in dry weather it’s a pretty slow team

In the wet it’s also tall and slow and rain is forecast for the start of the game

Are we really any slower by dropping Noble, (likely) Frampton & Fin & bringing in Beau, Moore & Murphy? Keeping in mind super speedy Markov will likely be in Noble's position.

 

[Piewithsauce13]

So Lipinski made the cut,I’m assuming?Why does he always seem to avoid scrutiny from the selectors?

Who has more potential to impact a game Noble or Lipinksi?

 

[stormskye]

Pick 7 out of: Murphy, Howe, Moore, iq, Maynard, pendles, noble, markov.

We can’t pick 8 defenders. Add into that crisp and when required

Markov or noble on form and match ups. It’s a tough one

 

[pieman123]

So Lipinski made the cut,I’m assuming?Why does he always seem to avoid scrutiny from the selectors?

Its baffling, Ginnivan would offer more fwd.

 

[LuckyLee]

Who has more potential to impact a game Noble or Lipinksi?

Lipinski's ability to lower his eyes and deliver the ball with precision into F50 to the advantage of our forwards is very valuable - assuming he can find his form of the 2022 finals series, rather than his meeker contributions in 2023.

 

[chop_me]

if it's wet and slippery I can see the logic in the Noble omission. Against Port in these type of conditions he was too easily pushed off the ball in the contest.

Understand the logic, but still would’ve preferred Noble (someone who can break the line) over someone like Lipinski in the team for this game.




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[Big Bryza]

Well we do need to stop one of them at least from dominating defensively, so l'm sure we are looking at putting a plan into place to diminish the influence of either May or Lever....

The spotlight goes on Checkers and McStay to have big games, and also our ability to kick to the advantage of our forwards.