Sam Newman- people have had enough of this shameless racist.

[_Mike_]

Hey folks, just a friendly reminder that this thread is about Sam Newman. All discussion on the upcoming referendum - please continue ON THE SRP BOARD

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Oh wow, you compared Australians who died fighting for our survival for a welcome to the country nonsense. again WOW

So why do you want to boo the black people in this country?

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

So why do you want to boo the black people in this country?

He was not saying boo the black people, he was saying boo the notion we have to deal with all this extra things put into a sporting event that's mainly all political.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

So why do you want to boo the black people in this country?

I've already mentioned a response to that same question, if people actually think that is what he is alluding to then you have the issues not him. its a damn game of football ( sport) not politics. This whole thing about adding pride round and indigenous round etc is a crock imo, its hypocritical for people that are say gay and or Aboriginal background like to say don't treat us differently, yet at the same time want to be with different flags and anthems and with these type of things happening in sport.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

He was not saying boo the black people, he was saying boo the notion we have to deal with all this extra things put into a sporting event that's mainly all political.

What about when he said ,
"The Indigenous people don't have a... almost their history is irrelevant. They don't have a history," Newman said of Australia's Aboriginal history.

"They hunt and they kill things and they eat them? I’m being serious – what is the history to teach? That wouldn’t take a hell of a lot of time to teach,” he said.

Top bloke hey?

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

I've already mentioned a response to that same question, if people actually think that is what he is alluding to then you have the issues not him. its a damn game of football ( sport) not politics. This whole thing about adding pride round and indigenous round etc is a crock imo, its hypocritical for people that are say gay and or Aboriginal background like to say don't treat us differently, yet at the same time want to be with different flags and anthems and with these type of things happening in sport.

It's easy to stop progress in society by saying 'no politics' .
It's not policics it's justice.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

What about when he said ,
"The Indigenous people don't have a... almost their history is irrelevant. They don't have a history," Newman said of Australia's Aboriginal history.

"They hunt and they kill things and they eat them? I’m being serious – what is the history to teach? That wouldn’t take a hell of a lot of time to teach,” he said.

Top bloke hey?

Never thought he is a good bloke, just stating what i heard in the convo with Jones, he said why does a game of football have to have all these things political to adhere to when attending a game.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

It's easy to stop progress in society by saying 'no politics' .
It's not policics it's justice.

Yeah that does not belong in sport when attending.

 

[Young Redleg]

What he said about Goodes was 100%, it was NEVER about him being Aboriginal, it was about his smart arse arrogant attitude that did it. Point proven is why Buddy and the like never were booed.

Total bullshit. Goodes happened to be outspoken about the dark history of Australia and people were too uncomfortable to hear it.

And by the way, Goodes is widely respected by other Indigenous Australians who have played the game. I'd take their opinion over a moron like Sam Newman, who has barely done any good for society.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

It's easy to stop progress in society by saying 'no politics' .
It's not policics it's justice.

And its not justice, the welcome to Australia was not about Aboriginal people it was about other counties people that have entered the country

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Never thought he is a good bloke, just stating what i heard in the convo with Jones, he said why does a game of football have to have all these things political to adhere to when attending a game.

It's not political in my eyes

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

And its not justice, the welcome to Australia was not about Aboriginal people it was about other counties people that have entered the country

No it's the custodians of the land for the last 65,000 years welcoming you to their land.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Total bullshit. Goodes spoke some uncomfortable truths about the dark history of Australia and people were too uncomfortable to hear it.

And by the way, Goodes is widely respected by other Indigenous Australians who have played the game. I'd take their opinion over a moron like Sam Newman, who has barely done any good for society.

It's not political in my eyes

Welcome to the country is not political? who do you think allows who and when people come into this country? not people attending a game of football but politician's

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Total bullshit. Goodes happened to be outspoken about the dark history of Australia and people were too uncomfortable to hear it.

And by the way, Goodes is widely respected by other Indigenous Australians who have played the game. I'd take their opinion over a moron like Sam Newman, who has barely done any good for society.

It was not about that as the reason why he was booed ffs, it was the way he played and carried on and off the field, others were never booed because they were not campaigners like he was/is

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Welcome to the country is not political? who do you think allows who and when people come into this country? not people attending a game of football but politician's

Just be grateful they are welcoming you and you should acknowledge their connection to the land for over 32 millenia. They're not asking for much, it takes 2 minutes and AFL has 20% Indigenous players.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Just be grateful they are welcoming you and you sholud acknowledge their connection to the land for over 32 milleni

Well Again, the theme of welcome to the country is not about Aboriginals, its about country's peoples from India and Afghanistan etc

 

[Young Redleg]

It was not about that as the reason why he was booed ffs, it was the way he played and carried on and off the field, others were never booed because they were not campaigners like he was/is

I'm sorry, that's a very simplistic view. Andrew Gaff knocked an 18 year old's teeth out and he didn't get booed to the same level that Goodes did. Taylor Walker made a racial slur and he didn't get booed to the same level that Goodes did.

People just didn't enjoy listening to Goodes draw attention to the fact that Australia has a dark history when it comes to the treatment of Indigenous Australians.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Well Again, the theme of welcome to the country is not about Aboriginals, its about country's peoples from India and Afghanistan etc

I think it's welcoming non-Indigenous people

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

I think it's welcoming non-Indigenous people

yes that's what he was on about, nothing about Aboriginal people. it was from what i remember Tony Jones who brought up the Adam goodes thing

 

[Vintage]

I think it's welcoming non-Indigenous people

It’s actually welcoming anyone from outside that area to ‘country’ so it includes all races. Country refers to indigenous regions, not Australia.

when you learn a little bit about their culture, it’s a really impressive one. so appreciative, calm, respectful. I love listening to a welcome to country now.

 

[Plugger35]

The Haka comparison in the OP lmfao, why would an Australian care about something to do with NZ?

The Haka is a war dance and challenge from the All Blacks to other international rugby teams, it's not a Welcome to Country it's the opposite

They don't do it at the drop of a hat either like the Welcome to Country, it's only reserved for test matches played by the All Blacks.

I can understand the Welcome to Country being done by the Wallabies or the Australian cricket team for other international teams.

I don't understand why the Welcome to Country needs to be done for domestic games like the AFL which are only witnessed by Australians.

Australians shouldn't need to be welcomed to their own country whether they are indigenous, white, black or whatever, it's all their country.

 

[_Cerberus_]

I'm sorry, that's a very simplistic view. Andrew Gaff knocked an 18 year old's teeth out and he didn't get booed to the same level that Goodes did. Taylor Walker made a racial slur and he didn't get booed to the same level that Goodes did.

People just didn't enjoy listening to Goodes draw attention to the fact that Australia has a dark history when it comes to the treatment of Indigenous Australians.

All the racists are the same type of people b*tch and moan about how young people are not accountable today, and are heaps of trouble. Should lock all the kids up etc.

Soon as Goodes pointed at a girl for racist remarks, those same people turned on him for "humiliating a kid". And he never recovered from it. Booing became the normal, and the more he stood up to it, the more angry people got. Lets just admit half this country are f wits and hypocrites. Guess they'd always stick up for their own types, like that girl, Its just people they don't like who are "bad", they just keep moving the posts each time. Happy to call for accountability for everyone but their own.

World needs a Thanos like reset. Society is deep in the gutter these days.

Felt for the bloke, one of the best players to play the game, and had a long career. But hated for rightfully calling out a kids comments, and standing up for himself.

 

[Young Redleg]

All the racists b*tch and moan about how young people are not accountable today, and are heaps of trouble. Should lock all the kids up etc.

Soon as Goodes pointed at a girl for racist remarks, those same people turned on him for "humiliating a kid". And he never recovered from it. Booing became the normal, and the more he stood up to it, the more angry people got. Lets just admit half this country are f wits and hypocrites.

World needs a Thanos like reset. Society is deep in the gutter these days.

Yep totally agree. It really pisses me off when people try to frame the 13 year old girl as the victim. The fact that she was only 13 doesn't make her slur any less reprehensible. If anything, Goodes did her a favour pointing her out because he potentially gave her the opportunity to grow the **** up.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Interesting how so many here on BF dislike him, yet all the comments on YT support him

 

[revo333]

When they introduced welcome to country last night , very faintly I think they were some jeers.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Interesting how so many here on BF dislike him, yet all the comments on YT support him

Oh yes, good old Avi. The guy convicted of beating his wife with a paddle board. The guy who said if he wasn't Jewish himself, he'd hate Jews as well. The guy who cuts and edits his content heavily, so it aligns with what he wants, and twists what people say. The guy who has been parts of nationalists groups who have seen a few of their mates locked up for crimes, some of it perverted behavior towards minors, and he has defended some of those mates over the years. The guy who supported those who called for Andrews to be assassinated. And runs with many of the crazy conspiracy theories out there.

Of course the comments on there are going to support Newman. Its Avis page, he is a well known far right grifter. Seriously doubt normal people would be lurking around a far right page.

It's like going to a Greens page and wondering why all the comments seem "greeny", or going to a Wigggles page and wondering why everyone there is a fan of the wiggles, or going to a KKK page and wondering why everyone there is racist, etc.