Preview Changes: R6 2019 vs St Kilda

[Murray2503]

Fire Hamish you reckon?

Sometimes I wonder why we even bother drafting. Surely not to improve. Must be because we are forced to by the afl. No, it's come to me now. We draft in case we get injuries.

 

[thebirdman 24]

not really happy we stuck with the same forward and defensive structure. it was a good chance to drop hartigan for a small and also drop lynch for a small.

riley knight non statistical role continues.

happy for poholke to come in but not for a line breaking half back. we could have even tried him in lynch's role with his marking prowess.

 

[BucketsNj]

not really happy we stuck with the same forward and defensive structure. it was a good chance to drop hartigan for a small and also drop lynch for a small.

riley knight non statistical role continues.

happy for poholke to come in but not for a line breaking half back. we could have even tried him in lynch's role with his marking prowess.

Milera want playing as a line breaking half back. He said himself - in the last couple of games he’d been alternating between half forward and mid.
Which makes more sense to bring the best performing mid from the SANDL.

 

[Betts are off]

I have no problem with Poholke getting a game, the guy is tearing the SANFL to shreds. I would have preferred Gooch to play as well though (as the Milera replacement), and Myles to come in by reshuffling the defence of some dead weight and dropping Kelly.

To me he hasn’t really done anything of note, and now Gibbs is seemingly a defender, we are a few bodies heavy in our defensive rotation

 

[Southerntakeover]

No its not about less, you took a comment and tried to extrapolate, out of context, other issues.

Responding to your post could be literal threads of discussion.


Your point, 1st rounders in SANFL = shit selectors.

My point, or we could have burned one or two first rounders. So not a broad the club is perfect or everything is dandy. Just your point isn't really the only option.

No, that's a false summary. My responses were directly relevant to the excuses that you were vacilating between offering.

I understood your point, I responded relevantly.

I said that our selection policy was damaging our long term prospects, in response to the number of our first rounders in the twos.

You claimed that was not the case because we had burned first rounders.

When pointed out that having selected busts repeatedly in the first round picks would have to draw criticism on the recruiters, you threw the car in reverse and started claiming that we might have both nailed our selections, and developed them correctly, but there were other reasons- mysterious reasons that are too complex for you to even spend the time explaining why those players are busts. It's quite plain what you're doing- you're providing your opinions based upon the outcome that you want- no fault. The problem is, it's incredibly hard to maintain any sort of credibility when you engage in this sort of vacillating in search of a set outcome.

That's your position. Club blameless first, explanation second.

Mine is this: I don't accept those players are busts. I don't accept we failed on our picks. I think Fogarty is an elite talent, and Gooch showed plenty last year. Their non selection is the result of poor selection policies and decisions. The idea that we blew those picks and our selectors know it becomes greater nonsense when we consider long term selection- did Fogarty and Galluchi become busts over the off season? We thought they were worth playing last year?

 

[Tex200]

The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week.

But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.

My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

He’s a 1st round pick, but more importantly, he was a best 22 player last year. We’re up to R6 now and R7 is his next chance at selection - just defies all logic

 

[maxlilly]

Look on the bright side, Jenkins, Sauce and Douglas aren't playing
And we've got Berg, ROB and Poholke getting games
Lets hope we can get Gallucci back into the team soon also

 

[Idontpullout]

The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week.

But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.

My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

He’s a 1st round pick, but more importantly, he was a best 22 player last year. We’re up to R6 now and R7 is his next chance at selection - just defies all logic

Not to mention he's one of our few players with genuine speed, x factor, and knows how to hit the score board.

 

[Elite Crow]

The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week.

But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.

My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

He’s a 1st round pick, but more importantly, he was a best 22 player last year. We’re up to R6 now and R7 is his next chance at selection - just defies all logic

And if we have a win, Poholke plays well and we cop no injuries then what? Gallucci has no hope of getting in.

Gallucci is out of contract at the end of the year, this is not going to help retain him if he thinks his development is being stunted and if he does goes, we are watching his value decline.

Plus he’s what need. Pohokle should have come in when a mid got injured. If Fog was BOG on the weekend does that mean he would have replaced Milera?

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

I have no problem with Poholke getting a game, the guy is tearing the SANFL to shreds. I would have preferred Gooch to play as well though (as the Milera replacement), and Myles to come in by reshuffling the defence of some dead weight and dropping Kelly.

To me he hasn’t really done anything of note, and now Gibbs is seemingly a defender, we are a few bodies heavy Slower in our defensive rotation

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

And if we have a win, Poholke plays well and we cop no injuries then what? Gallucci has no hope of getting in.

Gallucci is out of contract at the end of the year, this is not going to help retain him if he thinks his development is being stunted and if he does goes, we are watching his value decline.

Plus he’s what need. Pohokle should have come in when a mid got injured. If Fog was BOG on the weekend does that mean he would have replaced Milera?

Just another year being a crow supporter EC.. Same ole same ole. Conservative ****s.

 

[Murray2503]

Not to mention he's one of our few players with genuine speed, x factor, and knows how to hit the score board.

The only thing I can think of is that the AFC believes the competition's incessant belief that speed helps to win games is all wrong. Will try and get Otten in the team next to prove their point. They believe experience and continuity wins games. **** off. On the bright side though thankyou match committee for allowing me to likely make money again off your selections as I did against North Melbourne. Match committee are if anything consistent and predictable. Nothing against Poholke. I don't think he will make it at afl level but at least he has been in form. This total disregard for fixing blatantly obvious issues of pace especially down back where we are too tall and especially through the midfield where we are pedestrian in regards to 2 way running and chase. What do we do? Replace an elite ball user with pace with another inside mid. Hell let's pick 22 inside mids. We might win some clearances but not much else.

 

[jackster83]

Oh FFS, we've got McInerney again.

Changing my tip now.

 

[Murray2503]

Oh FFS, we've got McInerney again.

Changing my tip now.

And Campo. Deadly combo.

 

[robboaustralia]

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[CrowBloke]

1) The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week. But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.
2) My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

Very good post --- 1) Poholke did what he needed to do, was rewarded and yes should not have been dropped vs Suns which would have been an opportunity for him to shine against weaker opposition.
2) not playing Gallucci last week doesn't help him or the team. Makes no sense if he's fit and ready.
Is there some other issue holding Gallucci back eg discipline problems/breaking team rules, niggling injury or fitness, does anybody know?

 

[Bicks]

The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week.

But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.

My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

He’s a 1st round pick, but more importantly, he was a best 22 player last year. We’re up to R6 now and R7 is his next chance at selection - just defies all logic

You know that Steve Saunders hasn't had input into both Greenwood and Gallucci's readiness to play AFL?
Not much point employing one of the very best High Performance Managers in the business if we disregard their advice? Now I don't know if that's the case but I'd be surprised if he hasn't had a shedload of input into both guys recovery and ongoing management.

https://www.saundersphysiotherapy.com.au/staff/

 

[Bicks]

Very good post --- 1) Poholke did what he needed to do, was rewarded and yes should not have been dropped vs Suns which would have been an opportunity for him to shine against weaker opposition.
2) not playing Gallucci last week doesn't help him or the team. Makes no sense if he's fit and ready.
Is there some other issue holding Gallucci back eg discipline problems/breaking team rules, niggling injury or fitness, does anybody know?

https://www.saundersphysiotherapy.com.au/staff/

 

[Crows I Am]

The issue is not whether Poholke deserves selection. On form he clearly does, in fact he shouldn’t have been omitted last week.

But he was so, showing good attitude he goes back and plays well, good on him.

My issue is how Gallucci is being managed across the same period. Plays well against the Eagles, and if he’s close then he should have had the chance to play v South. No game at all is a worse case scenario.

He’s a 1st round pick, but more importantly, he was a best 22 player last year. We’re up to R6 now and R7 is his next chance at selection - just defies all logic

I think the coaching staff treats being the travelling emergency as some sort of reward for players. If they aren't selected then this is the next best thing...

Its a tricky one, you need someone in the role who is capable if there is an injury, but you also want the next few guys that are in line for selection to be getting game time in the SANFL so they keep up their form.

 

[Tex200]

You know that Steve Saunders hasn't had input into both Greenwood and Gallucci's readiness to play AFL?
Not much point employing one of the very best High Performance Managers in the business if we disregard their advice? Now I don't know if that's the case but I'd be surprised if he hasn't had a shedload of input into both guys recovery and ongoing management.

https://www.saundersphysiotherapy.com.au/staff/

Ok if we go with that line and say Gallucci is being managed, how does his management make sense?

Last week he’s 23rd man. The 1st emergency ready to play in the event there’s a mishap.

So we have to conclude from that he’s ready to play from a fitness perspective don’t we?

The alternative assumption is he’s being managed so he’s not ready. If we follow that path we have to conclude selectors had an unfit player ready to go?

With respect I just don’t think that makes any sense.

If he was considered ready to play AFL then surely he was ready to play SANFL. He’s played what, 3 SANFL matches now?

So how does that all add up...I’m all ears.

Edit: is he out of contract for next year? Maybe he won’t commit and we’re freezing him out?

 

[Scorpus]

Edit: is he out of contract for next year? Maybe he won’t commit and we’re freezing him out?

Why would he commit? He's a first round pick who we refuse to pick ahead of David Mackay and various others despite there being significant injuries in his exact position

 

[Crow till I die]

Ok if we go with that line and say Gallucci is being managed, how does his management make sense?

Last week he’s 23rd man. The 1st emergency ready to play in the event there’s a mishap.

So we have to conclude from that he’s ready to play from a fitness perspective don’t we?

The alternative assumption is he’s being managed so he’s not ready. If we follow that path we have to conclude selectors had an unfit player ready to go?

With respect I just don’t think that makes any sense.

If he was considered ready to play AFL then surely he was ready to play SANFL. He’s played what, 3 SANFL matches now?

So how does that all add up...I’m all ears.

Edit: is he out of contract for next year? Maybe he won’t commit and we’re freezing him out?

Maybe you are on the money there - it could be that he has told the club he wants out at the end of his contract. I have no info at all just speculating

 

[craig crowing]

Look I was very disappointed in what we did with top 3 picks we had and wondered why in the hell we recruited 2 very very small players but enlighten by many on here that we were injecting speed and pressure into our side which I understood but still not excited about what we did but as our main mids are not breakaway speed merchantsI understand the logic.
But What have we done in last 3 weeks brought in CEY( very very slow in all ways and no defensive pressure)
Poholke--- certainly no speedster or have any elite skills or real pressure ability.
Greenwood -- Love this guy but certainly no Usain .
So the reason get better is if you establish what your weakness is and you recruit in however possible to fix and you run with your choices ,
Geelong , Power and Richmond are been rewarded for backing their choices .
Same as in defence we are being shown up with a under talented unbalanced defence structure yet again plod on.

 

[footy4ever]

If Poholke is who the club want in, he simply cannot be shunted to half forward and left to rot.

He needs proper midfield minutes to show us what he has

Gooch needs to come in asap.

I think I’ve seen what he’s got.

Makes an excellent SANFL player.

 

[hey shorty]

Look I was very disappointed in what we did with top 3 picks we had and wondered why in the hell we recruited 2 very very small players but enlighten by many on here that we were injecting speed and pressure into our side which I understood but still not excited about what we did but as our main mids are not breakaway speed merchantsI understand the logic.
But What have we done in last 3 weeks brought in CEY( very very slow in all ways and no defensive pressure)
Poholke--- certainly no speedster or have any elite skills or real pressure ability.
Greenwood -- Love this guy but certainly no Usain .
So the reason get better is if you establish what your weakness is and you recruit in however possible to fix and you run with your choices ,
Geelong , Power and Richmond are been rewarded for backing their choices .
Same as in defence we are being shown up with a under talented unbalanced defence structure yet again plod on.

All of our draftees are very quick and very skillful. I wouldn't say very very small either