2019 Labor Leadership Non-Election - Albanese v Nobody

[samFFC]

You’d have to think the leader post-election won’t be the one pre-2022. But with the new rules won’t want to change too often.

Someone from QLD maybe? Hence the Chalmers suggestion makes sense.

 

[samFFC]

Albo and Plibs the only two sub $10 on Sportsbet. Chalmers not even ahead of Rudd, Gillard or Dastyari!

 

[tandino]

Albo and Plibs the only two sub $10 on Sportsbet. Chalmers not even ahead of Rudd, Gillard or Dastyari!

Maybe Sportsbet will pay out on all candidates.

 

[Echoes]

Can’t seriously contemplate this nasty piece of work can we?

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/...ng+downplays+handshake+snub&utm_term=Politics

 

[nobbyiscool]

It should be Plibersek.

It will be Bowen.

Because the ALP never ******* learn.

 

[stax on the mull]

Antony Green factors in a 0.06% swing towards Labor policy if Plibersek is elected as leader on account of voters confusing Plibersek with plebiscite.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Whoever it is, "Give voters some credit" is over. Labor won't campaign on optimism again.

 

[HairyO]

It should be Plibersek.

It will be Bowen.

Because the ALP never ******* learn.

Plibersek will drive a nail in Labor the same way Stott Despoja did to the Australian Democrats.

Labor lost because they competed with the Greens rather than being true Centrists.

They need Albanese.

 

[TheUnit1]

Albanese and Bowen are more centre people

Bowen has the youth and Albo the experience

Plibersek has a husband who’s a drug addict and drug dealer can’t imagine that going well

 

[Pessimistic]

Plibersek said she would consider running and highlighted the NEG failure as the battleground.

They really did fail to hammer that failure home

 

[Pessimistic]

Antony Green factors in a 0.06% swing towards Labor policy if Plibersek is elected as leader on account of voters confusing Plibersek with plebiscite.

How the hell did Barack Obama (bin laden) ever get elected?

 

[GreyWind]

Labor needs an attack dog. Positivity and optimism got them nowhere this election. The LNP and Morrison are going to have a hard time getting a surplus and keeping the housing market from continuing going down. Just hone in on that aspect.

 

[Caesar]

Bowen is young and talented. But he was the face of a lot of Labor’s most divisive policies, and sold them in a pretty divisive way. I can’t really see him being at all viable.

Plibersek and Albanese are going to have to come to some arrangement to avoid splitting the left faction. I can’t see them leaning into Plibersek after everything that’s happened, but Albanese isn’t going to solve their problems in Western Sydney and Queensland either.

A smokey from the right faction seems like a sensible bet. I like Tony Burke but I feel like he doesn’t have the numbers.

Maybe Chalmers as deputy to Albanese?

 

[TigerTime_89]

The Labor Party need someone from the Right faction of the Party that can appeal. They also, to appeal in Queensland and outer suburbia working class, need some who is more socially conservative (or Libertarian) with issues to do with climate change and immigration.

 

[Rob R]

Albanese and Bowen are more centre people

Bowen has the youth and Albo the experience

Plibersek has a husband who’s a drug addict and drug dealer can’t imagine that going well

Plibersek talks and presents well and could be a good leader but is so far to the left, she should be part of the Greens. If she leads, LNP victory is assured. Penny Wong failed as Finance Minister, has shown she will kowtow to China as shadow foreign minister and really achieved nothing. Albanese hard to tell as Shorten seems to have kept in the background. Marles - seemed to be pretty pathetic on the tv last night (although most politicians would struggle given the way their easy victory imploded). Chalmers who?.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Albanese and Bowen are more centre people

Bowen has the youth and Albo the experience

Plibersek has a husband who’s a drug addict and drug dealer can’t imagine that going well

He's been off the gear for a long time. But he was sentenced to three years jail for importing heroin. Could be a bit embarrassing if he was refused entry to the US or other countries when a spouse usually goes along.

 

[Rob R]

Labor needs an attack dog. Positivity and optimism got them nowhere this election. The LNP and Morrison are going to have a hard time getting a surplus and keeping the housing market from continuing going down. Just hone in on that aspect.

What positivity? Once the campign started down here, it was just wall to wall ALP attack adds focussing on LNP disunity, the lNP tax cuts and the fake news about LNP cuts to health and education.

 

[GreyWind]

What positivity? Once the campign started down here, it was just wall to wall ALP attack adds focussing on LNP disunity, the lNP tax cuts and the fake news about LNP cuts to health and education.

Labor was releasing policy which is a positive campaign strategy that showed they had a plan. They were always going to do attack ads, that's what every party does now.

 

[bullish23]

There is only one option and thats Albo.

Plibersek would be worse than Downer. If shorten had the electorate in a bore, Dreyfus would put them in a coma.

If only Wong was in the lower house

 

[Hank Scorpion]

They all seemed decent as shadow ministers, not convinced of them as leadership material.

Of the favourites, I'd prefer Albanese. What I've seen of Jason Clare suggests he could be alright - but he doesn't have a huge profile yet.

I'd put up Jim Chalmers' name too purely for someone Queensland-based.

 

[evo]

Where is SRP legend Dry Rot? His darling Plibersek is about to ascend to political greatness and lead the ALP!

 

[Ok Boomer]

It should be Plibersek.

Should be if they want to lose the next election as well.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The Labor Party need someone from the Right faction of the Party that can appeal. They also, to appeal in Queensland and outer suburbia working class, need some who is more socially conservative (or Libertarian) with issues to do with climate change and immigration.

You've described a Liberal.

To be honest I have no idea where they go. Albanese is the most relatable PR face, but that's a pretty sad indictment of politics.

 

[DaRick]

I've no idea who should win.

Pilbersek might get the female vote, but she's never really inspired me.

The obvious choice is Albanese, but while he's more relatable and aggressive than Shorten, he's still a tad stilted and awkward.

Bowen should be nowhere near it - this election has damaged his standing.

Wong I'm not really convinced by (senate seat notwithstanding). She might galvanise the base, but she also seems a touch stilted and I'm not sure Australians are comfortable with a 'former foreigner' representing them.

Not sure what Chalmers is like. I've heard that he is quite aggressive and bombastic, but that could make him too much like Mark Latham.

 

[Kurve]

Plibersek would be a great PM but she's not safe and there would be too many distractions. Albo looks good with Chalmers, they have a complimentary contrasting style.