List Mgmt. 2020 Draft Thread

[Soups]

Seamus Mitchell is another tall who has put on size.
Seamus Mitchell
Bendigo Pioneers — Forward, 181cm, 74kg
I have found our new FF

 

[Matt_352]

Future 1st + 16 for 9 + 22.

9. Zach Reid
14. Finlay Macrae
22. Reef McInnes

After those we hopefully snag a couple of gems late, id really like Callow and Ford, maybe we could work out a favourable deal with the dogs say 65, 66, 68, 75 Plus an extra 100k pa for 33 and 39?

 

[Soups]

I don't think that's true.

When Richmond bidded on a lions academy player last year, I feel like Brisbane got another club involved to get them some points. The clock even stopped for a while. Maybe even a third club was involved.

Correct Jen. If I bid comes we can live trade. Have to have options to do it though. They would have plans in place though. (I hope).

 

[Matt_352]

Sounds like there’s a couple more talls outside of the usual ones discussed that are worth looking at.

Like the look of Treacy

 

[Apex36]

Apex... didn't Rendell say Cripps poor time trial was the reason we passed him over, because it was their mistaken belief he had no endurance. Maynard had a similar poor result but the Pies had learned from their Cripps mistake and were not going to make the same mistake twice

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Yes, they also looked back further and found the likes of Hodge only got an 11 (same as Maynard) on the beep test too. Endurance can be improved, but football talent is something you’re born with. I’m glad they learned from the debacle that was [PLAYERCARD]Nathan Freeman[/PLAYERCARD] in 2013.

 

[JOELY]

Then why are we worried about a bid for Reef coming before our picks? Or anyone really, you can just wait for the bid and if it comes get rid of the next pick so its doesnt get chewed up. Easy.

 

[TradeDraft]

More you Read of Reef the Better he Sounds - Not Good for us Though

 

[TradeDraft]

Derek's would be nice shoes. I'd look at Brayden Cook with one of the picks if he's available, I'd hope Heath Chapman gets through, and I'd be comfortable taking Macrae or Powell.

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[manicpie]

I'm a big fan of Treacy and Allison as developing tall forwards who will be available in the later rounds

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Question for those who know a bit about the bidding system. I know that the next pick has to be used in matching for a bid. But after the next pick does it still have to be picks in consecutive order to make up the rest of the points?

What I mean is this:

Let's say Dons bid on Reef at pick 8 (1551 points) and we decide to match. With the 20% discount (310 points) we need 1241 points.

We use pick 14 (1161 points) meaning we need 80 points more to match. Do we have to use 80 points from pick 16's value or can we use pick 66 (80 points exactly) to make up the rest of the value, meaning we keep pick 16 and pick 65 intact?

 

[ride56]

Grundy comes last in the 2km every year. Would you consider him to have poor endurance, or would you say he consistently blows up his opponent with his ability to get around the ground? Maynard was drafted with poor endurance. Cripps was drafted with poor endurance. Hodge was recruited with poor endurance.
You don’t have to turn these guys in to marathon runners. Endurance as a general rule can be improved significantly once a player enters the system.

Also its 2km. Hardly endurance for a game like AFL. They basically sprint it. You don't see the same guys doing 1500m and 10km in Olympics

 

[TradeDraft]

Question for those who know a bit about the bidding system. I know that the next pick has to be used in matching for a bid. But after the next pick does it still have to be picks in consecutive order to make up the rest of the points?

What I mean is this:

Let's say Dons bid on Reef at pick 8 (1551 points) and we decide to match. With the 20% discount (310 points) we need 1241 points.

We use pick 14 (1161 points) meaning we need 80 points more to match. Do we have to use 80 points from pick 16's value or can we use pick 66 (80 points exactly) to make up the rest of the value, meaning we keep pick 16 and pick 65 intact?

I also like to know how it would Happen?

 

[jackcass]

Question for those who know a bit about the bidding system. I know that the next pick has to be used in matching for a bid. But after the next pick does it still have to be picks in consecutive order to make up the rest of the points?

What I mean is this:

Let's say Dons bid on Reef at pick 8 (1551 points) and we decide to match. With the 20% discount (310 points) we need 1241 points.

We use pick 14 (1161 points) meaning we need 80 points more to match. Do we have to use 80 points from pick 16's value or can we use pick 66 (80 points exactly) to make up the rest of the value, meaning we keep pick 16 and pick 65 intact?

Comes off 16 I think.

 

[grayza2018]

Comes off 16 I think.

I believe that is the case too, 16 would slide back

 

[grayza2018]

Future 1st + 16 for 9 + 22.

9. Zach Reid
14. Finlay Macrae
22. Reef McInnes

After those we hopefully snag a couple of gems late, id really like Callow and Ford, maybe we could work out a favourable deal with the dogs say 65, 66, 68, 75 Plus an extra 100k pa for 33 and 39?

Had the same thought earlier regarding outcome of the draft, would be very happy landing those three at the pointy end. Then perhaps try and trade back into the second or third round for a look at someone like Callow/other rated slider

 

[partypie]

Future 1st + 16 for 9 + 22.

9. Zach Reid
14. Finlay Macrae
22. Reef McInnes

After those we hopefully snag a couple of gems late, id really like Callow and Ford, maybe we could work out a favourable deal with the dogs say 65, 66, 68, 75 Plus an extra 100k pa for 33 and 39?

Why would the doggies trade themselves into less points when they basically need all the picks they have now to match a bid on JUH?

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[TradeDraft]

Class of 2020: Why Finlay Macrae edges out brother Jack in draft stakes

Victorian draft prospect Finlay Macrae talks about his football journey and reflects on advice from his brother, Western Bulldogs star, Jack Macrae.

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[TradeDraft]

Knightmare is there any Possible State League KPF's that Collingwood could take late in the Draft?

 

[12kilos]

Future 1st + 16 for 9 + 22.

9. Zach Reid
14. Finlay Macrae
22. Reef McInnes

After those we hopefully snag a couple of gems late, id really like Callow and Ford, maybe we could work out a favourable deal with the dogs say 65, 66, 68, 75 Plus an extra 100k pa for 33 and 39?

Seems that we loose each time propositions are put up in regards to trading in.
As much as we hate to admit it there is a possibility next year we finish outside the 8. if we have a bad year with injuries we could be looking at a pick next year in the top 5
How about we cut our losses we got screwed in trade week, there is no need to get screwed with pick swaps also.Just take the picks that we got and hope for the best.
Mark my word if we trade picks especially during the live trade i could see prices of picks especially round 1 being totally inflated.

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare is there any Possible State League KPF's that Collingwood could take late in the Draft?

Tyler Keitel is the better of the KPPs but for me didn't play to the standard he needs to, to be someone I'd consider.

I'd rather Noah Gown as a young key forward solution as a rookie. I've covered him before, but his first season with Essendon in the VFL was actually very strong and I feel like he's been let go of too early. Beyond that, Jackson Callow as a late/rookie pick I like as an immediatish key forward though of draft age, with Kaine Baldwin the other I'd consider. For me, put a cross through everyone else. They're the only three I have any interest in, in the Pies situation as key forwards.

There are some good state league options in other positions though. Lots of general defenders. A few mids. James Rowe if looking for a good crumbing forward if you don't mind his forward pressure not being top notch.

 

[Scodog10]

Question for those who know a bit about the bidding system. I know that the next pick has to be used in matching for a bid. But after the next pick does it still have to be picks in consecutive order to make up the rest of the points?

What I mean is this:

Let's say Dons bid on Reef at pick 8 (1551 points) and we decide to match. With the 20% discount (310 points) we need 1241 points.

We use pick 14 (1161 points) meaning we need 80 points more to match. Do we have to use 80 points from pick 16's value or can we use pick 66 (80 points exactly) to make up the rest of the value, meaning we keep pick 16 and pick 65 intact?

My understanding is that it’s taken from your next pick, but I don’t believe the scenario you presented can play out.

We need to remember the bids on JUH and Campbell will push things back so a bid by Essendon with their first pick (8) will be matched with our first pick (16) providing a 174 point deficit.

Alternatively a bid with their 3rd pick (assuming they don’t bid on another player) which would then be 10 would leave us with a 49 point deficit after we use 16.

We don’t know the full picture yet, but the post by our Adelaide based friend was an interesting scenario and one that wouldn’t surprise in the slightest given Perkins is likely to figure in Essendon’s picks plus DGB/ Reid/ Cox. Who knows Phillips could be the one to slide all the way out of the top 10...

 

[TradeDraft]

Tyler Keitel is the better of the KPPs but for me didn't play to the standard he needs to, to be someone I'd consider.

I'd rather Noah Gown as a young key forward solution as a rookie. I've covered him before, but his first season with Essendon in the VFL was actually very strong and I feel like he's been let go of too early. Beyond that, Jackson Callow as a late/rookie pick I like as an immediatish key forward though of draft age, with Kaine Baldwin the other I'd consider. For me, put a cross through everyone else. They're the only three I have any interest in, in the Pies situation as key forwards.

There are some good state league options in other positions though. Lots of general defenders. A few mids. James Rowe if looking for a good crumbing forward if you don't mind his forward pressure not being top notch.

Baldwin I could see going Late but I think Callow be a 2nd or 3rd Round Pick and at Moment we don't have Picks in that Area.

I reckon IF we have 5-6 Picks we take 1 or 2 State League Players with our Last Picks

 

[Knightmare]

Baldwin I could see going Late but I think Callow be a 2nd or 3rd Round Pick and at Moment we don't have Picks in that Area.

I reckon IF we have 5-6 Picks we take 1 or 2 State League Players with our Last Picks

Baldwin due to injury, but Callow being so physically advanced at 101kg and not that athletic, he might even slip through the draft completely. I'd trade into a pick late if I had to, or take as a rookie to secure him. Top-20 in my power rankings whether he's forward or back.