List Mgmt. 2021 Trade & List Management Thread I

[Harris 10]

can we just keep on drafting kids, with as many picks as we can get, we ain't there yet...

As i've said before, don't add sh!t to the list.

Keep growing through the draft and try and pick off the odd player that will help us for a minimum of 3 to 4 years plus through trades.

 

[New_Roo]

Wasn't referring to Charlie specifically, more a Charlie type

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[Psicosis]

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Draft.

Rachelle could be that type (different players), dangerous small forward. Not sure who else from this draft class there is.

 

[shinboner magic]

The referencing to a small forward is pretty consistent. Charlie Cameron type comes to mind.

Charlie’s brother will do

 

[tiltraise]

Noble asked about needs. Backline & midfielders with aggression/speed. Emphasized how aggression is required to win finals. Cannot see us not taking JHF with that priority.

Sounds like Wilmot.

HB runner with aggression and speed who takes the game on.

Not sure he lasts til our 2nd though.

But he could be there at Dogs pick (cur 15) which is up for grabs.

 

[Reginald0]

we’ve got Goldy
Touch wood, rarely injured and hogs game time

X as backup
And Edwards as back

And if anyone was wondering why Polec doesn't get a game (including me because I thought his kicking would be really useful), I present to you Exhibit A.

And Ats
Will need to be on a Meth bender to get another game

 

[Smoocher]

So Comben finally plays one game and does his shoulder after 2 years on our list. I think Lynch is great back up and will help Larkey. If Comben stays on the park with Larkey then Lynch plays magoos.

IMO.

We are not challenging for a premiership in the next two seasons regardless of what some delusional people on this board may think.

Lynch is a stop gap with no purpose.

Richmond won a premiership with one tall. Id prefer to develop young players instead of recruiting 30 year olds.


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[remfan101]

Sounds like Wilmot.

HB runner with aggression and speed who takes the game on.

Not sure he lasts til our 2nd though.

But he could be there at Dogs pick (cur 15) which is up for grabs.

Horne-Francis/Wilmot/Banks sounds like the perfect mix for our first 3 picks. If we could somehow find a way to get Gibcus as well we’d have every line sorted longterm

 

[The Y Factor]

And if anyone was wondering why Polec doesn't get a game (including me because I thought his kicking would be really useful), I present to you Exhibit A.

My understanding from reading, listening to and a few insights - is that Polec is not a liked guy. There are legit game style issues as pointed out but when you are a bad culture fit during the time of Noble, the culture king - its tough to get a game.

I think he is gone.

fwiw - I think he would be very helpful but I don't see it happening.

Don't be surprised if we trade him for a 4th and pay a chunk of his salary.

 

[LB2Snake]

And if anyone was wondering why Polec doesn't get a game (including me because I thought his kicking would be really useful), I present to you Exhibit A.

Thought the most interesting thing was his “omission“ of Ats in the backline group actually.

 

[TurnoverMerchant]

We should be targeting Peter Ladhams

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Peter Ladhams

Age

26

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.8

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

15.0

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

12.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

16.0

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.2

5star

HO

14.8

5star

or Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

via trade imo. That should be the only sort of trade done, then hit the draft with a top class hand.

 

[Sphynx]

Noble asked about needs. Backline & midfielders with aggression/speed. Emphasized how aggression is required to win finals. Cannot see us not taking JHF with that priority.

Basically write off anyone without leg speed in the draft based on a few interviews he’s given.

Also makes sense given his only draft to date = Phillips, Powell, Laz, Spicer (all have leg speed)

Stephenson and Atu also.

Seems to be more in line with the Richmond recruiting model. Speed and aggression above all else.

I think we can pencil in Horne, he’s basically Nobles wet dream. I think we will trade up for someone like Wilmot if we have to, he’s evidently not happy with our half back running options (Doesn’t bode well for Atley)

 

[Harris 10]

Sounds like Wilmot.
But he could be there at Dogs pick (cur 15) which is up for grabs.

That pick could improve again if they drop to 5th and then get rolled in week one.

 

[marklovesbeer]

Teague in as an assistant.
He said himself he still keeps an eye on the Shinboners.

 

[Shinboner1]

Teague in as an assistant.
He said himself he still keeps an eye on the Shinboners.

Assistant janitor or I don't want him.
Want a winning culture at the roos not guys who cant motivate people to play 4 quarters.

 

[the flying ham]

Teague in as an assistant.
He said himself he still keeps an eye on the Shinboners.

Was a highly regarded assistant at WC when Brady was there. Wouldnt surprise

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[DERRINALPHIL]

The days of pushing walker forward have been tried and trialled and no more... plenty avail as better and relatively cheap options


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At three different clubs no less. Madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

 

[Instincts]

Assistant janitor or I don't want him.
Want a winning culture at the roos not guys who cant motivate people to play 4 quarters.

Teague made the Adelaide forward line incredibly strong from 2016-17

 

[Eggs11]

Make it happen Schnoz.

 

[Merlin007]

Assistant janitor or I don't want him.
Want a winning culture at the roos not guys who cant motivate people to play 4 quarters.

I would thought Carlton's main issue was list management - to even the load on Cripps and Walsh in the midfield they spent big money on a half back flanker with no record as a midfielder (Williams), and then more big money (and draft position) on another half back flanker (Saad). In economic terms, you'd call that resource misallocation

 

[the flying ham]

I would thought Carlton's main issue was list management - to even the load on Cripps and Walsh in the midfield they spent big money on a half back flanker with no record as a midfielder (Williams), and then more big money (and draft position) on another half back flanker (Saad). In economic terms, you'd call that resource misallocation

And they think the way out of this mess is to turf out a young coach. A new coach and they spend a year resetting their game plan and restructuring their list.

They need to make a couple of hard calls on some of their bigger money recruits and move them on, and spend the money they would allocate to a Clarkson or Lyon on some highly regarded senior assistant and line coaches and in their list management team. For carlton its always been the big name, big money recruit to get them out of the mire.

Look at *, made a brave call to not overpay for Saad, and recruited Hind who provides similar run and carry and is a good lockdown defender.

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[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Assistant janitor or I don't want him.
Want a winning culture at the roos not guys who cant motivate people to play 4 quarters.

Shit call. That club is a mess. Barassi in his prime wouldn’t make a difference there.

 

[The Y Factor]

Was a highly regarded assistant at WC when Brady was there. Wouldnt surprise

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It would make me happy if North offered him a role - even a Summer development role - we have a massive off season coming!

Carlton announce he's gone and he can take it graciously and then announce he's moving to North - poor guy needs a break.

Such a tough , mentally chaotic pressure cooker - I feel bad for him.

 

[justroyal]

Well it would certainly make sense with how vague yet tongue in cheek Brady was when announcing the manager position would be taken up by someone we know

 

[Eggs11]

Well it would certainly make sense with how vague yet tongue in cheek Brady was when announcing the manager position would be taken up by someone we know

Do you have a link to that? I only remember it vaguely, but would like to watch it again with this context.