Preview 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Sat 23rd Sept 5.15PM @ Gabba

[Aphrodite]

TEAM IS IN …


IN: Jordan Boyd, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

26

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

OUT: David Cuningham, Brodie Kemp, Matthew Kennedy, Matthew Owies

AFL team selection: Four changes for preliminary final

Carlton has named its team for the preliminary final.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Half-backs:	Caleb Marchbank	Mitch McGovern	Nic Newman
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Ollie Hollands
Half-forwards:	Tom De Koning	Harry McKay	Sam Docherty
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	George Hewett
	Jack Martin
Emergencies:	David Cuningham	Brodie Kemp	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies

 

[TheReal99prelim]

I think Kemp could handle Raynor in the air - cometh the hour etc.

better cometh the * & spoil if Kemp can't mark it

 

[DollarsandSense]

Do Brisbane members have priority to tickets or is it open slather and Carlton could dominate the crowd numbers?

My Brisbane mates were behind me in the que. but got better seats. They’ll have better seats. But we’ll drown them out.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

They were in disarray - Weitering switched to the other side and while the Dees defenders were setting up around the 40 metre line Hollands decided to play on fast and not kick it to Docherty who was 80 metres out from goal but kicked to the space ahead of Docherty which meant that Docherty could take a bounce and kick it from 55 metres out and hence over the heads of May and Lever and the rest of the Dees.

By the time Acres marked the ball we had four Blues who could have walked into the open goal - Acres, McGovern, TDK and Kemp.

So having Docherty kick it from 55 out rather than 75-80 out made all the difference in the end.




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Deeper entries are key imo
Put a lot more pressure on opposition defenders.
I should’ve added, that’s as long as there’s no one out who’s leading at the ball carrier

 

[Stamos]

The last 2 minutes of play will never get old!

I just watched it again

Last two mins: Blues prevail over Dees in classic

The thrilling final moments between Melbourne and Carlton in the semi finals

www.afl.com.au

 

[Coops93]

I don't accept any criticism of Charlie. Not to say there's a lot here but from the wider AFL.

You're talking about an undersized KPF (he's below 195cm, small by modern KP standards) playing as the sole tall target inside 50, with some support from TDK*, surrounded by smalls against the best defence of the past handful of years with the best 1-2 KPD combination in the game. He has basically no chance of kicking a bag when they're able to simply double him every contest. The best we can expect from Charlie is to compete and not be beaten to the point where his opponent sets up play. Aside from about 5 minutes vs May he also had very little intercepting impact as did Lever.

He tirelessly competed against hopeless odds and got us the win. He did it last time we played them too. Everyone will praise May for shutting him down, but what forward would single handedly dominate those 2 inside 50 with little to no support? Aside from Curnow not kicking goals, what impact have Lever & May had against us in the last 2 games? Who won both games?

Looks nice to say May is beating Curnow, but I'd argue he's broke even enough that he May has had no impact, with Lever also having little. The results from both games would suggest as much.


(though it has to be said he has little forward craft which we've seen over an extended period of time. 2 goals was a fantastic return but he was far from a consistent inside 50 threat or target after those 2)

 

[Aphrodite]

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[Show_Me_The_Money]

I don't accept any criticism of Charlie. Not to say there's a lot here but from the wider AFL.

You're talking about an undersized KPF (he's below 195cm, small by modern KP standards) playing as the sole tall target inside 50, with some support from TDK*, surrounded by smalls against the best defence of the past handful of years with the best 1-2 KPD combination in the game. He has basically no chance of kicking a bag when they're able to simply double him every contest. The best we can expect from Charlie is to compete and not be beaten to the point where his opponent sets up play. Aside from about 5 minutes vs May he also had very little intercepting impact as did Lever.

He tirelessly competed against hopeless odds and got us the win. He did it last time we played them too. Everyone will praise May for shutting him down, but what forward would single handedly dominate those 2 inside 50 with little to no support? Aside from Curnow not kicking goals, what impact have Lever & May had against us in the last 2 games? Who won both games?

Looks nice to say May is beating Curnow, but I'd argue he's broke even enough that he May has had no impact, with Lever also having little. The results from both games would suggest as much.


(though it has to be said he has little forward craft which we've seen over an extended period of time. 2 goals was a fantastic return but he was far from a consistent inside 50 threat or target after those 2)

I think the only criticism is that he was dropping his head late in the game when we were still a chance of winning.
People need to understand May is the best FB in the comp, he's literally impossible to move and he was able to negate Charlie's influence by playing him very close.

No May this week.

 

[Coops93]

I think the only criticism is that he was dropping his head late in the game when we were still a chance of winning.
People need to understand May is the best FB in the comp, he's literally impossible to move and he was able to negate Charlie's influence by playing him very close.

No May this week.

I'm not convinced he dropped his head I think he just got beaten a couple times.

 

[Coops93]

Oh my wow

 

[Aphrodite]

Oh my wow

?????

 

[jimsta10]

Don't care how many goals Charlie or any other player kicks, who handballs, marks, etc

This team has been selfless for some time, hence the belief that everyone plays their part in our success

What if he kicks 6 and we win.. would you care then?

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Charlie will be taking info from every game. He had a tough night but he was involved in significant moments in the match. Could have been a 3 goal night but for some near misses. I’ve watched the replay a couple of times and he was providing a contest and that’s what you want from every player. Not a great night but nothing to be disheartened by.

 

[Arr0w]

What if he kicks 6 and we win.. would you care then?

What if he doesn't and we win by 6?

 

[Coops93]

?????

Wrong thread, was supposed to be the NFL thread

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Wrong thread, was supposed to be the NFL thread

Go Niners!

 

[haveago]

I think the only criticism is that he was dropping his head late in the game when we were still a chance of winning.
People need to understand May is the best FB in the comp, he's literally impossible to move and he was able to negate Charlie's influence by playing him very close.

No May this week.

Thats right.......September.

 

[AB_Blue]

3-4 goals from Charlie and 3-4 between TKD and H would go along way on Saturday

Motts, Martin Owies and Fog need to kick 3-4 between them

4 from midfield-wings would get us over the line….Easy game isn’t it


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[Stamos]

Wrong thread, was supposed to be the NFL thread

Which game?

 

[Beyond Blue]

I just watched it again

Last two mins: Blues prevail over Dees in classic

The thrilling final moments between Melbourne and Carlton in the semi finals

www.afl.com.au

I’ve watched it so many times there are people in the crowd who I feel like I know

 

[Manhattanite]

Charlie will be taking info from every game. He had a tough night but he was involved in significant moments in the match. Could have been a 3 goal night but for some near misses. I’ve watched the replay a couple of times and he was providing a contest and that’s what you want from every player. Not a great night but nothing to be disheartened by.

Yep Charlie was inches away from kicking 3.0 instead of 1.2

Plus he made the tackle which led to a turnover which Doch picked up and handballed to Motlop who scored and got us to within a goal at the end

And he got himself open at the same time Acres was and would have been the winning goal kicker had Doch not seen Acres





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[Sector 7G]

I don't accept any criticism of Charlie. Not to say there's a lot here but from the wider AFL.

You're talking about an undersized KPF (he's below 195cm, small by modern KP standards) playing as the sole tall target inside 50, with some support from TDK*, surrounded by smalls against the best defence of the past handful of years with the best 1-2 KPD combination in the game. He has basically no chance of kicking a bag when they're able to simply double him every contest. The best we can expect from Charlie is to compete and not be beaten to the point where his opponent sets up play. Aside from about 5 minutes vs May he also had very little intercepting impact as did Lever.

He tirelessly competed against hopeless odds and got us the win. He did it last time we played them too. Everyone will praise May for shutting him down, but what forward would single handedly dominate those 2 inside 50 with little to no support? Aside from Curnow not kicking goals, what impact have Lever & May had against us in the last 2 games? Who won both games?

Looks nice to say May is beating Curnow, but I'd argue he's broke even enough that he May has had no impact, with Lever also having little. The results from both games would suggest as much.


(though it has to be said he has little forward craft which we've seen over an extended period of time. 2 goals was a fantastic return but he was far from a consistent inside 50 threat or target after those 2)

CC nearly kicked 3 wit 2 touched on the line and was unlucky not to get a few frees (called for by the commentators on the night). The frees not being paid allowed May to keep manhandling and taking any run away. He also dropped a few marks in got positions he should have taken. Not too far from being a really good game

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Yep Charlie was inches away from kicking 3.0 instead of 1.2

Plus he made the tackle which led to a turnover which Doch picked up and handballed to Motlop who scored and got us to within a goal at the end

And he got himself open at the same time Acres was and would have been the winning goal kicker had Doch not seen Acres





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Was involved in the Owies goal as well.

 

[Blue Chip Pass]

the problem was for most of the game he was taking on May, Lever and a few others....

No Harry, no Martin to take the heat off him....

Totally agree wit this.
Having McKay & Martin, will be a huge change to the forward dynamics.
It will help let Charlie off the chain and have other genuine fwd marking options.
I 'm thinking Cunners & Kennedy will make way.

 

[thylacine60]

I’ve watched it so many times there are people in the crowd who I feel like I know

You do!

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Yep, Cuners a likely out, doing little (to allow Mots to stay in).

Bam Bam unlucky, but he ain't going to displace Hewett presently.

Would like Hollands to play a full game too (4 talls down back or more run?)