List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[The Nostradamus]

You reckon we through the kitchen sink at Jack Buckley wouldn’t we.
His Dad could help us out a bit.

Contracted to end of 2026

 

[Harris 10]

I have no idea. There is no way he is worth 800k+ per season.



Really? If he didn’t play for Geelong he wouldn’t even be talked about as a B grader let alone a “star”. Has a bit of breakaway speed, but gets caught with the ball, his decision making is trash and kicking is so inconsistent.

Nothing impressive about his 19 disposal and 3 clearance avg last season.

Admittedly, I didn’t watch last night but looks like Max must’ve played well.



If he leaves he’ll get paid very, very well. If he stays, it will be for unders in the cap and the rest by the fruit shop in true Geelong style.

 

[krakouers]

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

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[DuckYeah]

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

www.footywire.com

I’d like to say raid * like they did us, but there simply isn’t anything of value in that OOC scrap yard

 

[The Nostradamus]

Sam Darcy contracted but being stuck behind Rory Lobb

7

Rory Lobb

Age

31

Ht

207cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

11.3

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

is one I’d keep an eye on to see if we could throw big money his way and give him immediate opportunity to play

He might be loyal but at some point loyalty waivers when you are stuck in the vfl behind someone like lobb

There might be value at the dogs, their list is talented but it’s not clicking

 

[Lomas]

Sam Darcy contracted but being stuck behind Rory Lobb is one I’d keep an eye on to see if we could throw big money his way and give him immediate opportunity to play

He might be loyal but at some point loyalty waivers when you are stuck in the vfl behind someone like lobb

There might be value at the dogs, their list is talented but it’s not clicking

And they basically got him for pennies on the dollar. Not that usually matters, but helps with any messages they want to send to fans.

 

[giantroo]

GETTABLE: Another flag Tiger to wait, 12-year deal on cards, 'wildcard' draftee

Riley Beveridge and Cal Twomey discuss 2024's top draft prospects, offer a 'quick fix' and are joined by player agent Marty Pask

www.afl.com.au

 

[Wayne Campbell]

Jesse Hogan

23

Jesse Hogan

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

worth a look?


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[AnEmptyChair]

would absolutely take caleb daniel

35

Caleb Daniel

Age

27

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

if he's available at the end of the year. Put him at half back to release Sheezel to play up the ground where i think he'd be more damaging.

 

[King Corey]

would absolutely take caleb daniel if he's available at the end of the year. Put him at half back to release Sheezel to play up the ground where i think he'd be more damaging.

Or go back in time and draft him when everybody already knew about him but we thought we'd draft 3 tall defenders for a net return of stuff all.

 

[DesertRoo]

Jesse Hogan worth a look?


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I’m currently scanning the league for a first round pick, who’s been booted from two teams.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Sillygit]

*until free agency

 

[Themanbun]

Jack Payne gettable? Been dropped by the bears? Out of favour? Thoughts?

Would come cheap. Solid pick up.

 

[Supa_Nova]

So ugle-hagan to resign?

When will the articles about hawthorn/Sydney etc not being able to land a big fish come out? Or are they reserved just for us?

 

[My Left Foote]

Good on him, one less out of contract player for the media to bang on about which clubs are circling and which clubs are leading the race for his signature.

 

[ChairmanZia]

So ugle-hagan to resign?

When will the articles about hawthorn/Sydney etc not being able to land a big fish come out? Or are they reserved just for us?

The word big is relative to the club...according to these dills.

A max king would not be considered big fish to those clubs hence they don't miss out but if we miss out on a B grader, it must be 'another big fish rejecting norf' type message.

 

[ChairmanZia]

We need to start working on topping up on niche position that cannot be drafted, i.e. lockdown small defender, specialist crumbling like betts if there is one available. One day, we pay big $$$ for another ready made key fwd when all planets align.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

would absolutely take caleb daniel if he's available at the end of the year. Put him at half back to release Sheezel to play up the ground where i think he'd be more damaging.

Will Phill, Jy, Wardlaw, Daniel.......We represent The Lollipop Kids......

 

[krakouers]

Jesse Hogan worth a look?


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TBH the best thing for Jesse has been going to Sydney
Looked at one stage he wouldn’t play another game, not sure he would want to go back to Melb

 

[giantroo]

 

[hilly]

Jack Payne is shizen. Might as well have kept Josh Walkers.

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[Tas]

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[spurs]

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Thanks GR.
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[krakouers]

Thanks GR.
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How North Melbourne remade its football department to get the most out of latest rebuild
Having scooped up future stars across two of the most important drafts in club history, North Melbourne has turned its attention to making those players better. This is how the Roos have done it.


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March 22, 2024 - 4:33PM
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AFL: AFL Chief Executive Andrew Dillon was in Devonport to discuss the exciting news of a Tasmanian team joining the AFL.
As they cleared out their lockers in October, the 13 players leaving North Melbourne took 1463 games of experience with them.

And probably even more departed when Alastair Clarkson and Todd Viney decided to move the coaching group down an age bracket.

As they face a task of nurturing possibly the two most important drafts in the club’s history, the men in charge of football at Arden Street remade their department and pushed it to be younger.

Turning the four top-four picks they snared in the last two years – Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Colby McKercher and Zane Duursma – from star pupils to dominant men is the most important task on the agenda for North Melbourne.

Whether the football department flip around works could be the difference between the Kangaroos exiting a painful slump that has seen them win just 12 games since Covid started, or getting stuck on the hamster wheel of never-ending rebuilds.


Zane Duursma celebrates a goal in his first game. Picture: Matt King/AFL Photos
North Melbourne's Coaching Change
2023 Role 2024 Role
Alastair Clarkson Head coach Alastair Clarkson Head coach
John Blakey Assistant - defence Jed Adcock Assistant - defence
Jordan Russell Assistant - midfield Leigh Adams Assistant - midfield
Leigh Adams Assistant - forwards Xavier Clarke Assistant - forwards
Tom Lynch VFL and development Tom Lynch VFL and development
Damian Monkhorst Part-time Damian Monkhorst Part-time
Brett Ratten Assistant - part-time
Josh Gibson Part-time
Gavin Brown Head of development Michael Barlow Head of development
Emma Kearney Development Emma Kearney Development
Brent Harvey Development Adam Marcon Development
Jarrod Lienert Development/Indigenous player development manager
It’s clear to any football fan scanning through the North Melbourne list – the youngest in the AFL – that the focus should be on making those young players better.

It’s a track that footy boss Viney was happy to put the Roos on as he remodelled the football department and created virtually a new development team led by Michael Barlow.

“The demographic of the group was getting a lot younger and the statistics would say we are the youngest list in the AFL with the least amount of games experience so we really needed to have a look at the dynamics of the whole football department,” he said.

“Perhaps Clarko is a more senior coach now and I am in that same bracket and we had some other guys who were part of the coaching group who were the same vintage and we would need to perhaps look at the age demographic of our coaches and if we were still relating with the group.”


Roos coach Alastair Clarkson. Picture: Matt King/AFL Photos
From that vintage, assistants from last year Brett Ratten and John Blakey left, along with longtime development lead Gavin Brown.

In coaching terms, that was decades of knowledge and a heck of a lot of experience.

Jordan Russell rebuffed a plan from the Roos to move into development and landed an assistant role at Carlton, and part-timer Josh Gibson was shed.

Brent Harvey stepped from a coaching role to a part-time gig working with past players.

Xavier Clarke, a highly regarded assistant who was in the hunt for Richmond’s top coaching job last year, and the well-respected Jed Adcock were lured to Arden Street.


Brett Ratten left the Roos for the Hawks in the off-season. Picture: Michael Klein.
And Barlow now leads a group of full-time development staff – AFLW champion Emma Kearney, VFL journeyman Adam Marcon and 29-year-old former Power and Saint player Jarrod Lienert – and works side-by-side with VFL coach Tom Lynch.

Maybe the smallest call at North Melbourne made this off-season was removing bacon and eggs from the morning menu, something that spearhead Nick Larkey bemoaned this week.

Maybe the biggest call was not getting a senior assistant to sit alongside head coach Clarkson, and instead invest at the other end of the coaching tree.

Experience Out - North Melbourne's player departures
Todd Goldstein (Essendon) AFL games before 2024: 315
Jack Ziebell (retired) 280
Ben Cunnington (retired) 238
Aaron Hall (retired) 161
Kayne Turner (delisted) 130
Daniel Howe (retired) 107
Ben McKay (Essendon) 71
Lachie Young (delisted) 47
Jack Mahony (delisted) 44
Aidan Bonar (delisted) 34
Flynn Perez (delisted) 24
Phoenix Spicer (delisted) 12
Jacob Edwards (delisted) 0
Total 1463
With young jets punctuating the Roos list, Essendon great Matthew Lloyd declared last year the Roos need “the best off-field support staff of all time”.

The Roos had the fifth youngest list in the league last year before the likes of Ben Cunnington, Todd Goldstein, Jack Ziebell and Aaron Hall departed.

For Viney, improvement was in the numbers.

“It is just critical, we have got to look at ways of getting better,” he said.

“All players need to be developed but the way the list is so young, we have to make sure we have the numbers on the ground to be able to help work with them and put a development plan in place that can be executed, so we needed more numbers in the development space.

“Overall now there is a philosophy of making sure every player is being developed.”

THE NEW DEVELOPERS

Barlow came from coaching a Werribee VFL grand final appearance with a strong endorsement from Mark Williams.

And ‘Choco’ knows the game, with Viney describing the now Melbourne coaching sage as “probably one of the best development coaches of all time”.

Barlow’s team has immediately closed the age gap but there is still a way to go to catch up to the TikTok teens.


Michael Barlow has joined the Roos. Picture: Morgan Hancock/AFL Photos
“What I am feeling at the moment, probably from the players coming in this season, you are feeling like there is nearly one or two generations removed from what I am to the guys coming through now,” Barlow said.

“The world is moving very quickly and I think the main brief we were given on the way in is this group needs some energy and some enthusiasm. We are pretty lucky to have that and with the coaching group we have, we have forgone that one more senior coach and put a bit emphasis on development.”

Each development coach works with their respective assistant line coach to keep the message consistent.

As with every club, each player on the list has their own plan on getting better, from triple-premiership winner Liam Shiels to one-gamer McKercher.

“Nick Larkey is a player that we are looking to draw out incremental improvements and players in their first-to-four year group, we are looking for 10-20 per cent improvements across the board,” Barlow said.

“We know that can add up to something pretty special if you get it all right and swinging in the right direction.”


Colby McKercher fires a handball. Picture: Michael Klein
Barlow said the varying journeys of the development team, from state leaguers who had to fight for an AFL chance to Kearney’s remarkable eight all-Australian nods, connected with players.

No. 2 pick McKercher agreed.

“I think first of all those people you are talking about are just really good people,” he said.

“They are really good support to lean on during a pretty tough pre-season and I guess a time when we are going through a lot of things and getting so much information and adapting to a new lifestyle.”

North Melbourne will not know whether the beefing up of its younger coaches actually put its players on a path to greatness but the buy in has come from the top to the bottom.

“The connection between line coach and development coach has been great, Clarko has been willing to allow us to do our thing and it is a pretty exciting part of the year,” Barlow said.

“Hopefully we will go well but we are well aware there is possibility for some challenging times as well.”