Current 9yo Charlise Mutten - Blue Mountains * Justin Stein charged with murder

[Tues]

Plus he made the mistake of filling the barrel with sand while it was on the boat, making it too heavy to be moved. So he wouldn’t have been able to throw it off the boat. How did it eventually end up in the bush? Does this mean Kallista knew what he had done?

I really don't know, police have obviously obtained phone records between the pair of them but what were they discussing? Maybe he was just talking general tripe to her and she had no idea what he was up to -but that still doesn't explain why she left that little girl alone with him overnight while she stayed at the Riverside caravan park (doing drug deals maybe? )

 

[Tues]

From the article, so I'm wondering what the 'aggravated' circumstances were. Someone was home at the house? Detail is a bit scant.

.. she was charged with aggravated break and enter in company

The answer may be in this somewhere

Break and enter offences

www.judcom.nsw.gov.au

 

[Tues]

Justin Stein due in court today - not that he will attend, as usual.

 

[Kurve]

FFS! She has been in rehab since January!

They might keep her there until the baby's born and she faces sentencing for whatever role she played in that aggravated burglary. She won't get off light, so the baby will be taken off her imo and she'll go back to jail.

Unless, she's very useful for the prosecution against Stein and can do some sort of deal. Looks a bit like they might not need her now though.

 

[Tues]

They might keep her there until the baby's born and she faces sentencing for whatever role she played in that aggravated burglary. She won't get off light, so the baby will be taken off her imo and she'll go back to jail.

Unless, she's very useful for the prosecution against Stein and can do some sort of deal. Looks a bit like they might not need her now though.

The grandmother had full custody and refused her permission to take the little girl to NSW for a few weeks 'holiday' so she went to the 20k a month rehab- November/December (no doubt paid for by Steins) and then applied for access via the courts - she had no intention of getting off the drugs as evidenced by the many who were actually there to be rehabilitated

 

[Tues]

Will the mental health card be played?
His barrister told magistrate Robert Williams that while on remand in prison, Stein needed supplies of medication which he had been taking in high dosage for many years to treat 'mental health problems'.

The antipsychotic medications are used to treat bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and autism.

 

[Kurve]

The grandmother had full custody and refused her permission to take the little girl to NSW for a few weeks 'holiday' so she went to the 20k a month rehab- November/December (no doubt paid for by Steins) and then applied for access via the courts - she had no intention of getting off the drugs as evidenced by the many who were actually there to be rehabilitated

What a mess of culpabilities that ended with a murdered child. She might have more charges coming.

 

[Tues]

STILL in rehab? WTF.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/kallista-mutten-mother-of-allegedly-murdered-charlise-pleads-guilty-over-home-invasion/news-story/b53c09b88693454502292fd9b9bb3a62

 

[Kurve]

STILL in rehab? WTF.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/kallista-mutten-mother-of-allegedly-murdered-charlise-pleads-guilty-over-home-invasion/news-story/b53c09b88693454502292fd9b9bb3a62

It's starting to look more like custody than rehab imo.

 

[Tues]

It's starting to look more like custody than rehab imo.

Can't find any information regarding her having the baby.... (and can't get this song out of my head )

 

[jason_recliner]

WTF. ****************** "Rehab" my pasty white arse.

 

[jason_recliner]

This is new, isn't it?

Four days later, Charlise was found dead with a post mortem revealing the cause of death was a gunshot, but police could not find any guns, according to court documents.

A member of the public alerted police to a “suspicious area of disturbed ground” off a fire trail in Mount Wilson on January 30, where police discovered a buried blue tarp with more camouflage, foliage and dirt.

According to court documents, multiple items were found including a BSA .22 calibre bolt action rifle, Winchester Level Action 3030 shotgun, empty magazine clip from the rifle, ammunition, a bag with spent/unused cartridges, and black garbage bags.

... Stein’s fingerprints were allegedly found on the rifle, and ballistics examinations of the firearm identified characteristics consistent with the firearm used in the alleged murder, but investigators were unable to make a definitive comparison.

Rob a friend of the family. Real classy.

 

[Kurve]

She's avoided jail.

Ms Mutten's lawyer, Bet Turgut, told the court her client was prepared to give evidence against Mr Stein in future proceedings.

Mother of alleged murder victim Charlise Mutten avoids jail over home invasion

Kallista Mutten is ordered to serve a 12-month sentence in a residential rehabilitation clinic over her role in a home invasion where guns were stolen.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Kurve]

From the ABC article, link above. She should have got time for this home invasion imo, must be useful for the prosecution against Stein.

Key points:​

• Ms Mutten was ordered to serve a 12-month sentence in a residential rehabilitation clinic
• The magistrate rejected her lawyer's assertion she was an "unwilling participant" in the robbery
• The crime was not related to her daughter's death

 

[Rob R]

From the ABC article, link above. She should have got time for this home invasion imo, must be useful for the prosecution against Stein.

Key points:​

• Ms Mutten was ordered to serve a 12-month sentence in a residential rehabilitation clinic
• The magistrate rejected her lawyer's assertion she was an "unwilling participant" in the robbery
• The crime was not related to her daughter's death

Let off light again, some druggy scum just know how to play the system.

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[Tues]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/mother-of-justin-stein-fronts-court-in-separate-legal-battle/news-story/ab6b907f3530a1932520cf15d3c4d632

The mother of Justin Stein, the man charged with killing his 9-year-old stepdaughter Charlise Mutten, is embroiled in her own legal fight after a critical decision in the Supreme Court of NSW.
Annemie Nathalie Stein appeared in the Supreme Court of NSW on Wednesday in a bid to appeal a decision in the District Court which prevented her from pursuing motor vehicle accident compensation.

 

[Kurve]

Without more detail, it's a best guess to say that Kallista has provided the police with a motive for the murder of Charlise.

The documents also show prosecutors will now allege the alleged murder was domestic violence related, a classification his defence team will contest.

Charlise Mutten's alleged killer interfered with her body, court hears

Justin Stein is charged with the murder of the nine-year-old, whose body was found in a barrel west of Sydney in January.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Poppy Penny]

Arguing about Stein’s motive is pointless to me. A little girl was murdered. i hope Charlise ’doesn’t get lost’ with all the other bullsh*t that surrounds trials ie Stein’s rights and his excuses etc etc. Justice for Charlise.

 

[Rob R]

Without more detail, it's a best guess to say that Kallista has provided the police with a motive for the murder of Charlise.

The documents also show prosecutors will now allege the alleged murder was domestic violence related, a classification his defence team will contest.

Charlise Mutten's alleged killer interfered with her body, court hears

Justin Stein is charged with the murder of the nine-year-old, whose body was found in a barrel west of Sydney in January.

www.abc.net.au

I am sure it is one that will conveniently let her get off light again.

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[Kurve]

I am sure it is one that will conveniently let her get off light again.

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That might be hard to take in the circumstances and as more information comes forward.

 

[BFew]

Trial by jury on the cards after today's not guilty pleas.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/stepfather-of-charlise-mutten-pleads-not-guilty-to-the-murder-of-young-schoolgirl/news-story/fdec3d416b8b1cd5f98b0202c5e72fc1

'Stepfather of Charlise Mutten pleads not guilty to the murder of young schoolgirl​

The stepfather of Charlise Mutten has pleaded not guilty to the murder of the young schoolgirl, and will face trial.'
May 19, 2023 - 10:52AM'

'...
In Penrith Local Court on Friday, Mr Stein’s lawyer Peter Katsoolis entered not guilty pleas to the charges of murder, interfering with a corpse and possession of child abuse material.'
...
Mr Stein was committed to stand trial in the NSW Supreme Court for the charges of murder (domestic violence related) and interfering with a corpse.
He will be arraigned in the Supreme Court in July.
...'

 

[jason_recliner]

When asked by Magistrate Fiona Toose whether he was pleading not guilty, Mr Stein said: “Yes, that’s correct”.

Good luck with that, champ.

 

[Tues]

On Thursday, January 13, Justin Stein left the Wildenstein property at Mount Wilson in his Holden Colorado, police say, towing a boat carrying the barrel with Charlise's body inside.

A blue tarpaulin is believed to have been draped over the barrel in the boat.

According to GPS data detectives later obtained from Stein's mobile phone and his ute, he allegedly made the approximately one hour 20 minute journey to Marsden Park Bunnings.
At Bunnings, Stein bought five 20kg bags of sand and made a phone call to Kallista Mutten, police allege.

He then allegedly made a three minute drive to the BP service station at Marsden Park, where he filled up the boat with marine fuel and called Kallista Mutten again.

At some point, Stein must have emptied the bags of sand into the barrel to weight it down.

From the BP, it is at 40 minute drive to Five Dock boat ramp on the Parramatta River in inner western Sydney, where he is said to have failed to launch the motor boat, because it was 'inoperable'.

Stein again allegedly called Kallista Mutton and discussed his futile attempt to float the vessel and is then believed to have made the hour-long 60km drive to Windsor boat ramp...... strange!!

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

On Thursday, January 13, Justin Stein left the Wildenstein property at Mount Wilson in his Holden Colorado, police say, towing a boat carrying the barrel with Charlise's body inside.

A blue tarpaulin is believed to have been draped over the barrel in the boat.

According to GPS data detectives later obtained from Stein's mobile phone and his ute, he allegedly made the approximately one hour 20 minute journey to Marsden Park Bunnings.
At Bunnings, Stein bought five 20kg bags of sand and made a phone call to Kallista Mutten, police allege.

He then allegedly made a three minute drive to the BP service station at Marsden Park, where he filled up the boat with marine fuel and called Kallista Mutten again.

At some point, Stein must have emptied the bags of sand into the barrel to weight it down.

From the BP, it is at 40 minute drive to Five Dock boat ramp on the Parramatta River in inner western Sydney, where he is said to have failed to launch the motor boat, because it was 'inoperable'.

Stein again allegedly called Kallista Mutton and discussed his futile attempt to float the vessel and is then believed to have made the hour-long 60km drive to Windsor boat ramp...... strange!!

I don't see how Kallista escapes charges.

 

[Kurve]

I don't see how Kallista escapes charges.

Unless Stein told her he'd killed Charlise, she isn't involved.

Why Charlise was with him while Kallista stayed at the caravan park is interesting but atm and given the police's odd language over the couple of weeks they could not get in to interview her, I'm thinking she might have been at the caravan park self isolating with covid. Covid was ripping through NSW at the time.