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Tarrant has just destroyed Cameron. He is right in the mix with Rance, Talia and McGovern.
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To be fair so did Gov and some others. Cameron is having an avg year. Doesn't have the endurance yet, or smarts
Tarrant has been good enough in other games to be considered.
Why wasnt he moved onto Patton then?
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Because you move him to Patton and Cameron runs amok on Frittio. With Thompson out we have no answer to a 2nd good forward.
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Because since when was Patton their best forward? What, since last week?
Has also clearly beaten buddy gunston x2 dixon and now cameron
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It's not exactly a new thing that when an opposition forward gets his tail up that you switch your best defender onto him.
North also could've moved Hansen onto him from Lobb who wasn't doing much, or moved Petrie into defence who couldn't get near it.
North also could've moved Hansen onto him from Lobb who wasn't doing much, or moved Petrie into defence who couldn't get near it.
Half the game hahah missed what 10 mins started the 2nd qtr and played out it entirety!
Not sure if youre taking the piss orrr
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So, Steven Motlop.
In 2013, he was in the AA Squad of 40. In 2016, he's barely been mentioned.
2013 H&A season - 21 games, 17.57 disposals per game, 4.10 inside 50s per game, 1.86 goals per game, 0.76 goal assists per game, 1.81 tackles per game, Champion Data Player Ranking Score Average of 83.83.
2016 H&A season - 22 games, 19.91 disposals per game, 4.45 inside 50s per game, 1.64 goals per game, 0.73 goal assists per game, 2.55 tackles per game, Champion Data Player Ranking Score Average of 85.23.
Why such a difference in perception between the years?
In 2013, he was in the AA Squad of 40. In 2016, he's barely been mentioned.
2013 H&A season - 21 games, 17.57 disposals per game, 4.10 inside 50s per game, 1.86 goals per game, 0.76 goal assists per game, 1.81 tackles per game, Champion Data Player Ranking Score Average of 83.83.
2016 H&A season - 22 games, 19.91 disposals per game, 4.45 inside 50s per game, 1.64 goals per game, 0.73 goal assists per game, 2.55 tackles per game, Champion Data Player Ranking Score Average of 85.23.
Why such a difference in perception between the years?
Yes. Cameron has been average this year. Patton is the form player.
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Coming into today (...and fresh off Patton's 'career best game'):
Patton played 20 games for 29 goals.
Cameron 17 games for 48 goals.
Hmmm not sure if dumb or stupid?
What has things that happened more than a couple of weeks ago have to do with current form?
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Because generally form is taken over a period of time, not off one game. Before last week he had played 19 games and kicked 23 goals, which is very mediocre.
Cameron has been consistently better (by a mile) over the season, so of course Tarrant plays on him...he's their best forward.
If Sam Reid kicks a bag one game, would you put your best defender on him instead of Buddy the following week?
Ignore the second point that Tarrant was pretty much never even near him
Cause we know thats crap!! If tarrant wanst on him then buddy really sucked last week as he wouldnt hve had an oponent and still couldnt get near it
How about after he kicks his first 2 in the game? or 3? or 4?
Hence "shifted"
You can change matchups during a game, most decent coaches do...
He's been very up and down this year.
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Thats just garbage. He was hyped last year and Richmond won 15 games and conceded he 3rd least points in the comp
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I thought we were talking about Tarrant not Brad Scott. Point is Tarrant destroyed Cameron, hardly his fault that Scott is too incompetent to move him.
But then again argument could be made that Cameron will get going if the change is made... Just like, why move Tarrant off Buddy, if he is keeping him quiet. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Scott could have tried to move someone else onto Patton though, because clearly Firritto wasn't winning.
Find the overlap?
As said Franklin was injured, his performance had nothing to do with Tarrant, as Tarrant was barely near him the entire night.
He wasnt running properly till midway through last quarter.
This isnt saying Tarrant hasnt had a great year, but people need to stop giving players plaudits for things they had nothing to do with.
You'll find they've been inflated in the 5 or so games that he actually cared about
Not big on heat maps but id say all that says is buddy got his touches on the wing and tarrant got his in the back half! Doesnt mean they didnt play on each other when buddy was inside 50! I guess what youre saying is buddy didnt go inside 50 the whole game?
Find the overlap?
As said Franklin was injured, his performance had nothing to do with Tarrant, as Tarrant was barely near him the entire night.
He wasnt running properly till midway through last quarter.
This isnt saying Tarrant hasnt had a great year, but people need to stop giving players plaudits for things they had nothing to do with.
Yes but this is kind of the point, its all very well to say Tarrant got ontop, but if GWS had the easy out in Patten, a part of that is simply because going forward GWS already had a very effective pathway to goal, so directed more ball that way.
If you'd watched the game you would already know that Buddy did spend most of his time up the ground / on the wing, he spent very little time inside 50.
