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Round 1
1. Wacky Tiger - Dustin Martin
2. richoatthedisco - Royce Hart
3. Tiger_Of_Old - Kevin Bartlett
4. Barunga Bullet - Matthew Richardson
5. richard parker - Trent Cotchin
6. peterbuch74 - Dale Weightman
7. _RT_ - Jack Dyer
8. Phar Ace - Jack Titus
9. tiger_tough - Jack Riewoldt

Round 2

10. tiger_tough - Alex Rance
11. Phar Ace - Maurice Rioli
12. _RT_ - Francis Bourke
13. peterbuch74 - Michael Roach
14. richard parker - Shane Edwards
15. Barunga Bullet - Ian Stewart
16. Tiger_Of_Old - Nathan Brown
17. richoatthedisco - Bill Barrot
18. Wacky Tiger - Dylan Grimes

Round 3
19. Wacky Tiger - Roy Wright
20. richoatthedisco - Vic Thorp
21. Tiger Of Old - Matthew Knights
22. Barunga Bullet - Dick Clay
23. Richard Parker - Wayne Campbell
24. Peter Buch 74 - Darren Gaspar
25. RT - Dick Harris
26. Phar Ace - Michael Green
27. Tiger Tough - Geoff Raines

Round 4
28. Tiger Tough - Kevin Sheedy
29. Phar Ace - Roger Dean
30. RT - Ron Branton
31. Peter Buch 74 - Nick Vlastuin
32. Richard Parker - Brett Deledio
33. Barunga Bullet - Jim Jess
34. Tiger Of Old - Mark Lee
35. richoatthedisco - Bryan Wood
36. Wacky Tiger - Neil Balme

Round 5
37. Wacky Tiger - Barry Richardson
38. richoatthedisco - Robert Wiley
39. Tiger Of Old - Noah Balta
40. Barunga Bullet - Joel Bowden
41. Richard Parker - Jeff Hogg
42. Peter Buch 74 - Chris Newman
43. RT - Mervyn Keane
44. Phar Ace - Fred Swift
45. Tiger Tough - David Cloke

Round 6
46. Tiger Tough - Barry Rowlings
47. Phar Ace - Tony Free
48. RT - Bill Morris
49. Peter Buch 74 - Brendon Gale
50. Richard Parker - Scott Turner
51. Barunga Bullet - Tom Lynch
52. Tiger Of Old - Paul Broderick
53. richoatthedisco - Bachar Houli
54. Wacky Tiger - Gordon Strang

Round 7
55. Wacky Tiger - Doug Strang
56. richoatthedisco - Dion Prestia
57. Tiger Of Old - Michael Perry
58. Barunga Bullet - Michael Malthouse
59. Richard Parker - Toby Nankervis
60. Peter Buch 74 - Ivan Maric
61. RT - Brad Ottens
62. Phar Ace - David Astbury
63. Tiger Tough - Shane Tuck

Round 8
64. Tiger Tough - Andrew Kellaway
65. Phar Ace - Paddy Guinane
66. RT - Brian Taylor
67. Peter Buch 74 - Kane Lambert
68. Richard Parker - Neville Crowe
69. Barunga Bullet - Nathan Foley
70. Tiger Of Old - Shai Bolton
71. richoatthedisco - Ray Poulter
72. Wacky Tiger - Kane Johnson

Round 9
73. Wacky Tiger - Craig Lambert
74. richoatthedisco - Perce Bentley
75. Tiger Of Old - Ben Cousins
76. Barunga Bullet - Ben Holland
77. Richard Parker - Basil McCormack
78. Peter Buch 74 - Michael Mitchell
79. RT - Mark Coughlan
80. Phar Ace - Des Rowe
81. Tiger Tough - Bruce Monteath

Round 10
82. Tiger Tough - Mike Patterson
83. Phar Ace - Stuey Maxfield
84. RT - Robbie 'Bones' McGhie
85. Peter Buch 74 - John Northey
86. Richard Parker - Michael Pickering
87. Barunga Bullet - Nick Daffy
88. Tiger Of Old - Greg Strachan
89. richoatthedisco - Stan Judkins
90. Wacky Tiger - Jayden Short

Round 11
91. Wacky Tiger - Rex Hunt
92. richoatthedisco - Mopsy Fraser Jr
93. Tiger Of Old - Max Oppy
94. Barunga Bullet - Kevin Morris
95. Richard Parker - Billy Brown
96. Peter Buch 74 - Leon Cameron
97. RT - Mark Chaffey
98. Phar Ace - Ricky McLean
99. Tiger Tough - Wayne Walsh

Round 12
100. Tiger Tough - Andrew Krakouer
101. Phar Ace - Leo Merrett
102. RT - Chris Naish
103. Peter Buch 74 - Michael Gale
104. Richard Parker - Sydney Stack
105. Barunga Bullet - Jack O'Rourke
106. Tiger Of Old - Brian Roberts
107. richoatthedisco - Paul Sproule
108. Wacky Tiger

Round 13
109. Wacky Tiger
110. richoatthedisco
111. Tiger Of Old
112. Barunga Bullet
113. Richard Parker
114. Peter Buch 74
115. RT
116. Phar Ace
117. Tiger Tough

Round 14
118. Tiger Tough
119. Phar Ace
120. RT
121. Peter Buch 74
122. Richard Parker
123. Barunga Bullet
124. Tiger Of Old
125. richoatthedisco
126. Wacky Tiger
 
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    • Couple of controversial ones here but I challenge any of the greats of the past to run with them all day long. Whilst one especially wont have the hardness of days gone by and was a whipping boy for a long time he was a very solid player for us for a long time playing his position well. Something we are still looking for now.

    108. Brandon Ellis

    The whipping boy for so long Brando was a very solid player for the Tigers leading into our golden era. 176 games, 2x Premiership player, A squad of 40 AA one year, 2nd in the Jack Dyer Medal that same year. His run and carry well the older boys simply couldn't keep up. Plus I need a wingman.

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    109. Jack Graham

    Well ive seen Sydney Stack picked and whilst I love Sydney he's got nothing on what Jack Graham has done. 2 x Premiership Tiger and 22 Tigers wouldn't have that extra or first premiership without his heroics in the 2019 Prelim. This also should be an astute pickup in 10 years time when people go back over these threads and say "How the hell did Jack Graham last until 109". For team balance im going to chuck him in the middle and move Dusty to the forward flank.

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    Wackys 22

    FB:     ??? - Barry Richardson - Dylan Grimes
    HB:     Jayden Short - Gordon Strang - ???
    C: ??? - Jack Graham - Brandon Ellis
    HF:     ??? - Rex Hunt - Dustin Martin
    FF:     ??? - Doug Strang - Neil Balme
    Foll:     Roy Wright - Kane Johnson - Craig Lambert
    Int:     ??? - ??? - ??? - ???

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    • 110 - Jack Baggott

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    A highly talented sportsman who also captained Northcote in the District Cricket competition, Baggott was equally adept at either end of the ground. He won Richmond's goal-kicking in each of his first two seasons, including 61 goals in 1928. That year he tied for second in the Brownlow Medal, and became the first Richmond player to record double figures, with 12 goals against South Melbourne.

    An attacking half-back-flanker in Richmond's 1932 and 1934 premiership teams (he was also a member of the 1928, '29 and '33 grand final teams), he was voted in Richmond’s best three players in finals five times, and booted 5 goals in the 1929 semi-final against Collingwood. He represented Victoria 4 times, kicking 9 goals. His Richmond record was 128 games and 140 goals.

    "He was a very versatile footballer, playing most of his early football in the forward line before being transferred to defence. He was very fast, a fine mark and a tough competitor." - tigerlandarchive.org

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    Pick 111
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    • Kamdyn McIntosh

    Date of birth
    3 April 1994 (age 27)
    Place of birth
    Pinjarra, Western Australia
    Original team(s)
    Peel (WAFL)
    Pinjarra (PFL)
    Draft
    No. 31, 2012 AFL National Draft: Richmond
    Debut
    Round 1, 2015, Richmond
    vs. Carlton, at MCG
    Height
    191 cm (6 ft 3 in)
    Weight
    91 kg (201 lb)
    Position(s)
    Wing / half-back
    Club information
    Current club
    Richmond
    Number
    33
    Playing career1
    Years
    Club
    Games (Goals)
    2013–
    Richmond
    125 (33)
    1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 2021.
    Career highlights
    2x AFL premiership player: 2017, 2020
    AFL Rising Star nominee: 2015
    Cosgrove-Jenkins award (RFC Best First-Year Player): 2015


    Barunga Bullet
     
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    • Pick 113 - Allan Geddes

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    Rapt that this guy slid so far. In the modern professional environment he will become breathtaking out on a wing.

    “Allan Geddes joined Richmond in 1925 and quickly established a reputation as one of the finest wingmen in the VFL.Indeed, some of the people who saw him in action at his peak went as far as to describe him as the greatest wingman of all time, and he was fondly and popularly known at Punt Road as 'Allan the Great'.

    Like many bona fide champions, Geddes sometimes appeared to be travelling almost at half pace, but this was deceptive, and he was rarely caught in possession of the ball. Almost invariably one of the first names to be pencilled in when VFL state squads were selected, Geddes ran equal second in the 1926 Brownlow voting, and was the winner of Richmond's best and fairest award the same year. He played in six Tiger Grand Final sides, enjoying success in 1932 and 1934, before retiring at the end of the 1935 season after 182 VFL games.”

    Richard Parker's Team
    B: ?? Scott Turner ??
    HB: Basil McCormack ?? ??
    C: Billy Brown Trent Cotchin Allan Geddes
    HF: Sydney Stack Michael Pickering Brett Deledio
    F: ?? Jeff Hogg ??
    Fol: Toby Nankervis Wayne Campbell. Shane Edwards
    IC: N.Crowe ?? ?? ??


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    • richard parker said:
    Pick 113 - Allen Geddes

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    Rapt that this guy slid so far. In the modern professional environment he will become breathtaking out on a wing.

    “Allan Geddes joined Richmond in 1925 and quickly established a reputation as one of the finest wingmen in the VFL.Indeed, some of the people who saw him in action at his peak went as far as to describe him as the greatest wingman of all time, and he was fondly and popularly known at Punt Road as 'Allan the Great'.

    Like many bona fide champions, Geddes sometimes appeared to be travelling almost at half pace, but this was deceptive, and he was rarely caught in possession of the ball. Almost invariably one of the first names to be pencilled in when VFL state squads were selected, Geddes ran equal second in the 1926 Brownlow voting, and was the winner of Richmond's best and fairest award the same year. He played in six Tiger Grand Final sides, enjoying success in 1932 and 1934, before retiring at the end of the 1935 season after 182 VFL games.”


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    Well picked Mr Parker - was likely to be one of my next two
     
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    • With pick 114 the PB74's select onballer BILL WILSON

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    Bill was a tough, resilient rover. Recruited from the local Richmond area, he went on to form a fine partnership with “Brownlow Medallists”, Bill Morris and Roy Wright. He was a fearless player who was both talented and skilful. He had a fine turn of speed and very good goal sense. He was given the nickname of “Gimme”, because he used to say to Roy Wright and Bill Morris, “give me the ball”. He won the club Best and Fairest award in 1947, finished second in 1948 and third in 1949 and 1950. He represented Victoria 10 times and was a member of the 1944 Grand Final side.

    His highest individual goal tally was 5 against St.Kilda in Round 4 of 194 and he also kicked 8 goals for the reserves against the same club in 1945. He was awarded Life Membership in 1953 and has the Club’s Most Determined Trophy fittingly named in his honour.

    After leaving Richmond, he played with Glenelg, in South Australia, where he ran equal third in the 1955 “Margarey Medal” count. He returned to Richmond in 1958 and coached the Thirds for three seasons. In 1958, he led them to their first VFL Premiership with a comfortable win over Essendon.

    He coached the VFL Under 19s side that defeated South Australian Colts in 1960.

    He also served on the Richmond Committee in 1966 and 1967. Richmond supporters were shocked to learn of his sudden death at the age of 44, in 1969. Bill never smoked or drank and still appeared very fit at the time of his death.

    PB74's team
    B: L.Cameron D.Gaspar N.Vlastuin
    HB: C.Newman xxxxxxxx M.Gale
    C: xxxxxxxxx M.Mitchell xxxxxxxx
    HF: J.Northey B.Gale K.Lambert
    F: xxxxxxxxx M.Roach xxxxxxxx
    FOL: I.Maric B.Wilson D.Weightman
    IC: xx xx xx xx

    _RT_ back to you
     
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    • With pick 115 I'm taking Arthur 'Joe' Murdoch


    Joe Murdoch is perhaps best remembered for an altercation with Gordon Coventry during a match in 1936, as a result of which both players were reported, and the Collingwood champion was suspended for eight weeks, missing his club's Grand Final win against South Melbourne. However, he deserves to be remembered for much more, as he was a key element in Richmond's success during the early 1930s.

    Big, rugged and uncompromising, Murdoch was also a superb high mark, and one of the longest kicks in the Richmond team. He made his VFL debut in 1927, and went on to amass 180 league games over the next ten seasons, including successful Grand Finals in 1932 and 1934. Some of his best games for the Tigers were on occasions when they had their backs to the wall, such as the losing Grand Finals of 1928, 1929 and 1933, in all of which he featured highly on the best player lists. For most of his career he alternated between the two key defensive positions, but like most defenders he was far from averse to embarking on the odd stint ahead of centre.

    Another well-worn anecdote regarding Murdoch concerns the time he thrashed a young Jack Dyer in a practice game. Dyer of course went on to become one of the greatest legends of the game, but as a young hopeful he was lined up against Murdoch in a scratch match by Tiger coach 'Checker' Hughes, and by all accounts failed to touch the ball.

    B: Branton xxxxxxx Murdoch
    HB: Keane McGhie xxxxxxx
    C: Bourke Coughlan xxxxxxx
    HF: xxxxxxx Ottens xxxxxxx
    F: Harris Taylor C.Naish
    R: Morris Dyer xxxxxx
    INT: xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxx

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    • Pick 116 - Graham BURGIN


    Burgin, a robust, determined, disciplined, dashing half-back, was recruited by Richmond from Melbourne suburban club Vermont.

    He worked his way through the ranks at Tigerland during the 1965 season, starting off in the under 19s and moving up to the reserves, before making his senior league debut as 20th man, at just 17 years, 62 days of age, in Round 8 against Fitzroy at the MCG.

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    Graham Burgin (left) with Mike Perry, Geoff Strang and Roger Dean.

    There was only one more senior appearance for Burgin that year and just a further six the next season, however, in 1967, he established himself as a regular member of Richmond’s main line-up.

    With his hardness at the contest, pace and long kicking out of the backline, Burgin became a pivotal player for the Club.

    Throughout the Tigers’ drought-breaking ’67 premiership year, he formed an excellent partnership across their half-back line with Mike Perry (centre half-back) and Geoff Strang (the other half-back flank).

    A series of injuries, unfortunately, hampered Burgin over the course of his career at Richmond, severely limiting the amount of senior football he was able to play.

    Nevertheless, when he was available for action, he never let the Tigers down on the field of battle.

    In 1969, Burgin’s first senior appearance for that season came in the final home-and-away round against Footscray at the MCG, following another long-term injury lay-off.

    But he subsequently played, and excelled, in Richmond’s three finals, including the ’69 Grand Final triumph over Carlton.

    B: xxxxxxx F.Swift xxxxxxx
    HB: D.Rowe D Astbury G.Burgin
    C: S.Maxfield M Rioli Snr L.Merrett
    HF: xxxxxxx P.Guinane xxxxxxx
    F: xxxxxxx R.McLean J.Titus
    FOL: M.Green T.Free R.Dean
    IC: xx xx xx xx


    You are up tiger_tough
     
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    Back to you Phar Ace
     
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    • Pick 119 - Dan Minogue

    The Father of Richmond Premierships!

    Now I'm not that big a fan of the footy played back in 1920, and some might struggle to get a game in Reserves these days, but some are out and out legends too. Dan the Man started playing for Collingwood. But the back story is fascinating and has been so worth the effort to distill!

    Dan Minogue had been one of Collingwood's most inspirational players across 85 games in a career interrupted by his desire to serve his country in its time of need. Having proven himself one of the game's best followers, as well as the club's captain for three seasons, he was chaired from the field in his last game for the Magpies in 1916, just before sailing from Australia off to the war. It was little wonder the club and its supporters followed his war story with interest, and it helped that he kept in regular correspondence with his teammates and friends throughout his years of service, with his letters often reproduced in various newspapers.

    In one of his letters home, Minogue expressed his disappointment that he wasn't able to spend more time with his fellow Magpie soldiers at the front. He explained: "I am a good bit away from them, but I would give anything to meet them. Just fancy a man having the luck to meet 'Doc' Seddon, Jim Jackson, Walter Raleigh, Harry Matheson or Sam Mortimer. I believe I would get drunk. If we all get back for the 1918 season, we will have some team."

    This You Tube clip is absolutely brilliant. I watched it a few times - invest the few minutes in Footy History. In 1916 it was the first time Australian Football was ever played overseas and Dan Minogue was Vice Captain:

    The war carried on until November 1918, so Minogue playing in Collingwood's 1918 Grand Final against South was never going to happen. But there was plenty of optimism in the suburb of Collingwood in the second half of the 1919 VFL season – with teams said to be playing for "the Peace Premiership" - with the Magpies eagerly awaiting the return of their former players following their military service.

    Of all of them, Dan Minogue was the most eagerly awaited in terms of his return. Even before he docked in Melbourne on the Barambah on July 26, 1919, plans were already afoot to honour him with a street parade along Smith St, as well as a 'Welcome Home' party for the club's former skipper.

    Those plans were quickly aborted when Minogue promptly announced he intended to join the Richmond Football Club. It was a football bombshell delivered in a time of peace, and the fallout gave birth to a bitter new rivalry between the neighbouring clubs.

    Even now, almost a century on, Collingwood reasons that Minogue's motives were relatively clear. He wanted to coach, and Collingwood's coach Jock McHale seemed to have a hold on the position for many years ahead. He knew he wouldn’t be able to coach the Magpies for some time to come. It was a fair assessment, given McHale would coach for another 30 years. However, Minogue being a man of great principle said his motivation centred on his displeasure with Collingwood over the club's treatment of his good friend Jim Sadler, particularly in overlooking him for the 1917 Grand Final, when Minogue was on the other side of the world at war. It burned!

    Collingwood was furious with Minogue's defection. The club pledged to make him pay, and were reluctant themselves to do the same. They withheld Minogue’s entitlements from the retirement fund. They were just as steadfast in their commitment to block his move to Richmond. Loyalty was paramount at Victoria Park, or so they say, and McHale and the rest of the black and white officialdom resolved that if Minogue wasn’t going to show loyalty, then the Magpies were going to try and make an example of him. Famously, the club also turned his photo to the wall – and it stayed that way for decades.

    All the more intriguing, after years in the doldrums, Richmond emerged as the team most likely to challenge Collingwood for the 1919 premiership. Minogue had been blocked from a clearance owing to the Magpies’ intransigence and just to make it more interesting the Tigers beat Collingwood in an early final, highlighting just how competitive they had become. The two new rivals were scheduled to meet again in the Grand Final as emotion and enmity divided the teams and those supporters who barracked for them.

    There were a number of local disturbances on the border of the two suburbs the night before the game, with local police brought in to keep the fragile peace. Those same tensions were on show again on the field the following day where, it was said, "fists were showing at various periods" in a match where the stakes were exceptionally high. The Magpies ended up winning the match, the final margin was 25 points.

    That was the beginning of the Richmond / Minogue legend. He would finally be granted a transfer to Richmond in 1920, and Richmond poured oil on the Collingwood fire storm by appointing Minogue Captain and Coach for 1920 season, much to Collingwood’s dismay! In Round 5, Richmond was schedule to play Collingwood to coincide with the visit of the then Prince of Wales. The match at Punt Road before a crowd of 30,000 proved to be one of the finest ever witnessed there. The previous year's grand finalists were evenly matched - it was Hale v Minogue. Richmond led but the lead was closing in the final quarter when the Magpies kicked truly to trail by just point. Richmond got the ball to James in the dying minute. Pandemonium ensued and part of one of the stands collapsed, but the Tiger forward, unperturbed, kicked truly!

    The intense loathing which exists between supporters of the Collingwood and Richmond Football Clubs almost certainly has its origins in this sequence of events. Minogue would play a key role in helping the Tigers exact their revenge by beating the Magpies to that year’s premiership.

    Always an inspirational character, Minogue also demonstrated a shrewdness and a tactical aptitude which made him an outstanding success as a coach. In his first two seasons in charge of Richmond, he took the Tigers to consecutive flags, their first in the VFL. He led from the front too, fitting in wherever he was most needed, and almost invariably performing well. It could well have been three flags but for the flawed finals system decided by percentage in 2024 despite Richmond beating the flag winner, Essendon.

    As an side note - it incredibly took until the mid-1950s – after McHale’s death – for Minogue to be seen again at Victoria Park, a sign that the cold war between the club and one of its former favourite sons had finally thawed a little. Dan was a Life Member of the VFL and he died in 1961. In 1996, he was inducted into the AFL’s Hall of Fame.


    B: D Astbury F.Swift xxxxxxx
    HB: D.Rowe D.Minogue(c) G.Burgin
    C: S.Maxfield M Rioli Snr L.Merrett
    HF: xxxxxxx P.Guinane xxxxxxx
    F: xxxxxxx R.McLean J.Titus
    FOL: M.Green T.Free R.Dean
    IC: xx xx xx xx

    Over to you _RT_
     
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    • Phar Ace said:
    Pick 119 - Dan Minogue

    The Father of Richmond Premierships!

    Now I'm not that big a fan of the footy played back in 1920, and some might struggle to get a game in Reserves these days, but some are out and out legends too. Dan the Man started playing for Collingwood. But the back story is fascinating and has been so worth the effort to distill!

    Dan Minogue had been one of Collingwood's most inspirational players across 85 games in a career interrupted by his desire to serve his country in its time of need. Having proven himself one of the game's best followers, as well as the club's captain for three seasons, he was chaired from the field in his last game for the Magpies in 1916, just before sailing from Australia off to the war. It was little wonder the club and its supporters followed his war story with interest, and it helped that he kept in regular correspondence with his teammates and friends throughout his years of service, with his letters often reproduced in various newspapers.

    In one of his letters home, Minogue expressed his disappointment that he wasn't able to spend more time with his fellow Magpie soldiers at the front. He explained: "I am a good bit away from them, but I would give anything to meet them. Just fancy a man having the luck to meet 'Doc' Seddon, Jim Jackson, Walter Raleigh, Harry Matheson or Sam Mortimer. I believe I would get drunk. If we all get back for the 1918 season, we will have some team."

    This You Tube clip is absolutely brilliant. I watched it a few times - invest the few minutes in Footy History. In 1916 it was the first time Australian Football was ever played overseas and Dan Minogue was Vice Captain:

    The war carried on until November 1918, so playing in Collingwood's 1918 Grand Final against South was never going to happen. But there was plenty of optimism in the suburb of Collingwood in the second half of the 1919 VFL season – with teams said to be playing for "the Peace Premiership" - with the Magpies eagerly awaiting the return of their former players following their military service.

    Of all of them, Dan Minogue was the most eagerly awaited in terms of his return. Even before he docked in Melbourne on the Barambah on July 26, 1919, plans were already afoot to honour him with a street parade along Smith St, as well as a 'Welcome Home' party for the club's former skipper.

    Those plans were quickly aborted when Minogue promptly announced he intended to join the Richmond Football Club. It was a football bombshell delivered in a time of peace, and the fallout gave birth to a bitter new rivalry between the neighbouring clubs.

    Even now, almost a century on, Collingwood reasons that Minogue's motives were relatively clear. He wanted to coach, and Collingwood's coach Jock McHale seemed to have a hold on the position for many years ahead. He knew he wouldn’t be able to coach the Magpies for some time to come. It was a fair assessment, given McHale would coach for another 30 years. However, Minogue being a man of great principle said his motivation centred on his displeasure with Collingwood over the club's treatment of his good friend Jim Sadler, particularly in overlooking him for the 1917 Grand Final, when Minogue was on the other side of the world at war. It burned!

    Collingwood was furious with Minogue's defection. The club pledged to make him pay, and were reluctant themselves to do the same. They withheld Minogue’s entitlements from the retirement fund. They were just as steadfast in their commitment to block his move to Richmond. Loyalty was paramount at Victoria Park, or so they say, and McHale and the rest of the black and white officialdom resolved that if Minogue wasn’t going to show loyalty, then the Magpies were going to try and make an example of him. Famously, the club also turned his photo to the wall – and it stayed that way for decades.

    All the more intriguing, after years in the doldrums, Richmond emerged as the team most likely to challenge Collingwood for the 1919 premiership. Minogue had been blocked from a clearance owing to the Magpies’ intransigence and just to make it more interesting the Tigers beat Collingwood in an early final, highlighting just how competitive they had become. The two new rivals were scheduled to meet again in the Grand Final as emotion and enmity divided the teams and those supporters who barracked for them.

    There were a number of local disturbances on the border of the two suburbs the night before the game, with local police brought in to keep the fragile peace. Those same tensions were on show again on the field the following day where, it was said, "fists were showing at various periods" in a match where the stakes were exceptionally high. The Magpies ended up winning the match, the final margin was 25 points.

    That was the beginning of the Richmond / Minogue legend. He would finally be granted a transfer to Richmond in 1920, and Richmond poured oil on the Collingwood fire storm by appointing Minogue Captain and Coach for 1920 season, much to Collingwood’s dismay! In Round 5, Richmond was schedule to play Collingwood to coincide with the visit of the then Prince of Wales. The match at Punt Road before a crowd of 30,000 proved to be one of the finest ever witnessed there. The previous year's grand finalists were evenly matched - it was Hale v Minogue. Richmond led but the lead was closing in the final quarter when the Magpies kicked truly to trail by just point. Richmond got the ball to James in the dying minute. Pandemonium ensued and part of one of the stands collapsed, but the Tiger forward, unperturbed, kicked truly!

    The intense loathing which exists between supporters of the Collingwood and Richmond Football Clubs almost certainly has its origins in this sequence of events. Minogue would play a key role in helping the Tigers exact their revenge by beating the Magpies to that year’s premiership.

    Always an inspirational character, Minogue also demonstrated a shrewdness and a tactical aptitude which made him an outstanding success as a coach. In his first two seasons in charge of Richmond, he took the Tigers to consecutive flags, their first in the VFL. He led from the front too, fitting in wherever he was most needed, and almost invariably performing well. It could well have been three flags but for the flawed finals system decided by percentage in 2024 despite Richmond beating the flag winner, Essendon.

    As an side note - it incredibly took until the mid-1950s – after McHale’s death – for Minogue to be seen again at Victoria Park, a sign that the cold war between the club and one of its former favourite sons had finally thawed a little. Dan was a Life Member of the VFL and he died in 1961. In 1996, he was inducted into the AFL’s Hall of Fame.


    B: D Astbury F.Swift xxxxxxx
    HB: D.Rowe D.Minogue(c) G.Burgin
    C: S.Maxfield M Rioli Snr L.Merrett
    HF: xxxxxxx P.Guinane xxxxxxx
    F: xxxxxxx R.McLean J.Titus
    FOL: M.Green T.Free R.Dean
    IC: xx xx xx xx

    Over to you _RT_
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    Wonderful write up PA...I think we have a good 'un here in Minogue...keep them old tiger champions coming..
    👍❤👍
     
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    • Maurie Sheahan

    Originally from Ballarat, Sheahan was already twenty-three when he joined the Tigers, but his hard and tough defensive play transformed a team renowned for its attacking power in the 1920s into a rock-like defensive unit that defied the powerful attacks of Collingwood and later South Melbourne to make the Grand Final every year from 1931 to 1934 and have the meanest defence every year from 1932 to 1935.

    Sheahan was a member of Richmond’s legendary "Three Musketeers" backline of Bolger, Sheahan and O'Neill. He played in the premiership teams of 1932 and 1934 as well as the losing Grand Final sides of 1929 and 1933.

    In an incident that was remembered for decades after it occurred, Sheahan was famously penalised for time-wasting in the dying minutes of the close top-of-the-ladder South Melbourne–Richmond match in Round 8, 1933 after setting up to kick in after a behind with a place kick – despite the fact that time was off until the kick-in was executed. South Melbourne's subsequent goal narrowed the deficit to five points, but the final bell sounded soon afterwards and Richmond still won the game.

    Injuries, however, affected Sheahan's career quite badly: he was kept out of seven games early in the 1931 season by a broken arm[3] and weight problems caused Sheahan to lose form so badly that he was actually omitted from the club’s two 1931 finals.He recovered well until 1936, when Richmond omitted Sheahan for the third game upon his announcement he would not play against Carlton in the fourth round due to his marriage. Sheahan never recovered his form and retired at the end of the season, but was awarded Life Membership of the Richmond Football Club in 1938 and went on to serve as the Club Secretary in 1939.

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    Pick 119 - Dan Minogue

    The Father of Richmond Premierships!

    Now I'm not that big a fan of the footy played back in 1920, and some might struggle to get a game in Reserves these days, but some are out and out legends too. Dan the Man started playing for Collingwood. But the back story is fascinating and has been so worth the effort to distill!

    Dan Minogue had been one of Collingwood's most inspirational players across 85 games in a career interrupted by his desire to serve his country in its time of need. Having proven himself one of the game's best followers, as well as the club's captain for three seasons, he was chaired from the field in his last game for the Magpies in 1916, just before sailing from Australia off to the war. It was little wonder the club and its supporters followed his war story with interest, and it helped that he kept in regular correspondence with his teammates and friends throughout his years of service, with his letters often reproduced in various newspapers.

    In one of his letters home, Minogue expressed his disappointment that he wasn't able to spend more time with his fellow Magpie soldiers at the front. He explained: "I am a good bit away from them, but I would give anything to meet them. Just fancy a man having the luck to meet 'Doc' Seddon, Jim Jackson, Walter Raleigh, Harry Matheson or Sam Mortimer. I believe I would get drunk. If we all get back for the 1918 season, we will have some team."

    This You Tube clip is absolutely brilliant. I watched it a few times - invest the few minutes in Footy History. In 1916 it was the first time Australian Football was ever played overseas and Dan Minogue was Vice Captain:

    The war carried on until November 1918, so Minogue playing in Collingwood's 1918 Grand Final against South was never going to happen. But there was plenty of optimism in the suburb of Collingwood in the second half of the 1919 VFL season – with teams said to be playing for "the Peace Premiership" - with the Magpies eagerly awaiting the return of their former players following their military service.

    Of all of them, Dan Minogue was the most eagerly awaited in terms of his return. Even before he docked in Melbourne on the Barambah on July 26, 1919, plans were already afoot to honour him with a street parade along Smith St, as well as a 'Welcome Home' party for the club's former skipper.

    Those plans were quickly aborted when Minogue promptly announced he intended to join the Richmond Football Club. It was a football bombshell delivered in a time of peace, and the fallout gave birth to a bitter new rivalry between the neighbouring clubs.

    Even now, almost a century on, Collingwood reasons that Minogue's motives were relatively clear. He wanted to coach, and Collingwood's coach Jock McHale seemed to have a hold on the position for many years ahead. He knew he wouldn’t be able to coach the Magpies for some time to come. It was a fair assessment, given McHale would coach for another 30 years. However, Minogue being a man of great principle said his motivation centred on his displeasure with Collingwood over the club's treatment of his good friend Jim Sadler, particularly in overlooking him for the 1917 Grand Final, when Minogue was on the other side of the world at war. It burned!

    Collingwood was furious with Minogue's defection. The club pledged to make him pay, and were reluctant themselves to do the same. They withheld Minogue’s entitlements from the retirement fund. They were just as steadfast in their commitment to block his move to Richmond. Loyalty was paramount at Victoria Park, or so they say, and McHale and the rest of the black and white officialdom resolved that if Minogue wasn’t going to show loyalty, then the Magpies were going to try and make an example of him. Famously, the club also turned his photo to the wall – and it stayed that way for decades.

    All the more intriguing, after years in the doldrums, Richmond emerged as the team most likely to challenge Collingwood for the 1919 premiership. Minogue had been blocked from a clearance owing to the Magpies’ intransigence and just to make it more interesting the Tigers beat Collingwood in an early final, highlighting just how competitive they had become. The two new rivals were scheduled to meet again in the Grand Final as emotion and enmity divided the teams and those supporters who barracked for them.

    There were a number of local disturbances on the border of the two suburbs the night before the game, with local police brought in to keep the fragile peace. Those same tensions were on show again on the field the following day where, it was said, "fists were showing at various periods" in a match where the stakes were exceptionally high. The Magpies ended up winning the match, the final margin was 25 points.

    That was the beginning of the Richmond / Minogue legend. He would finally be granted a transfer to Richmond in 1920, and Richmond poured oil on the Collingwood fire storm by appointing Minogue Captain and Coach for 1920 season, much to Collingwood’s dismay! In Round 5, Richmond was schedule to play Collingwood to coincide with the visit of the then Prince of Wales. The match at Punt Road before a crowd of 30,000 proved to be one of the finest ever witnessed there. The previous year's grand finalists were evenly matched - it was Hale v Minogue. Richmond led but the lead was closing in the final quarter when the Magpies kicked truly to trail by just point. Richmond got the ball to James in the dying minute. Pandemonium ensued and part of one of the stands collapsed, but the Tiger forward, unperturbed, kicked truly!

    The intense loathing which exists between supporters of the Collingwood and Richmond Football Clubs almost certainly has its origins in this sequence of events. Minogue would play a key role in helping the Tigers exact their revenge by beating the Magpies to that year’s premiership.

    Always an inspirational character, Minogue also demonstrated a shrewdness and a tactical aptitude which made him an outstanding success as a coach. In his first two seasons in charge of Richmond, he took the Tigers to consecutive flags, their first in the VFL. He led from the front too, fitting in wherever he was most needed, and almost invariably performing well. It could well have been three flags but for the flawed finals system decided by percentage in 2024 despite Richmond beating the flag winner, Essendon.

    As an side note - it incredibly took until the mid-1950s – after McHale’s death – for Minogue to be seen again at Victoria Park, a sign that the cold war between the club and one of its former favourite sons had finally thawed a little. Dan was a Life Member of the VFL and he died in 1961. In 1996, he was inducted into the AFL’s Hall of Fame.


    B: D Astbury F.Swift xxxxxxx
    HB: D.Rowe D.Minogue(c) G.Burgin
    C: S.Maxfield M Rioli Snr L.Merrett
    HF: xxxxxxx P.Guinane xxxxxxx
    F: xxxxxxx R.McLean J.Titus
    FOL: M.Green T.Free R.Dean
    IC: xx xx xx xx

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    You have to understand that they were successful at the time and they would probably evolve with the game today. They were elite at their time bc of skill, smarts and raw ability.
     
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