Team Mgmt. An early crack at 2017 best 22

[DHepp21]

It will be so good to play two genuin rucks next season. Luey is a pretty good ruckman. Tbc has shown he can kick goals.

If we can get a key forward in the trade period or the draft it will make our forward structure much better. The likes of hooker down there too is a possibility.

Id love to have zach merret as a small forward rotating with jobe through the middle. So much potential, all we need is one key forward.


Please!!!!!!!

Hooker, Daniher and TBC up forward. Hurley, Hartley and Francis down back. Leuenberger ruck. Ambrose and Brown depth. There you go, problem solved.

 

[Keystone agony]

With the way Hartley is going and what he did again last night on JJK. Im starting to think a Hurley, Hartley and Francis backline with Daniher, M.Brown and Hooker forward line. Daniher the chop out ruck for 10% of the game just as Jenkins does for S.Jacobs or Ben Brown does for Goldstein.

 

[Keystone agony]

Hooker, Daniher and TBC up forward. Hurley, Hartley and Francis down back. Leuenberger ruck. Ambrose and Brown depth. There you go, problem solved.

Too big too slow and cant retain footy inside 50 is all i see with that and ordinary when the footy hits the deck inside 50 considering the amount that happens in games it wouldnt be good.

Anyway i think ive beaten my drum as to the way i like to go with the structure over the years now.

 

[Keystone agony]

Hard to let go but alot of the top teams just go with one ruck

Jacobs does 90-95%, Goldstein the same, Eagles without NicNat just operating with one, Sydney have bloody Kurt Tippett rucking for them all year i see him more as a forward come ruck even though they have Sinclair aswell both are so versatile and they dont have a 3rd tall forward so it allows. Yes, the hawks have had 2 aswell but no Roughead, No Schoey much this year from memory? and Gunston is basically capable of being a wingman if he wanted playing as the main forward for them basically.

The dogs have been playing 2 genuine rucks all year not going to disagree with that. Geelong have used Z.Smith with more of a chop out from Stanley but hes bloody winning the 100m dash not like TBC would be doing similar and Kersten is a really good moving 3rd tall forward.

I think Hooker, Daniher and M.Brown as 3rd tall is the way to go next year.

Baguley - Hartley - Francis

Tipungwuti - Hurley - Hibberd (Kelly)

Goddard - Watson - Heppell

Z.Merrett - Hooker - Colyer

Fantasia - Daniher - M.Brown

Leuy - Hocking (Tag) - Zaharakis

Mers, Stanton, Parish, Laverde

Emg: Langford

 

[darrenbewick#8]

Hooker, Daniher and TBC up forward. Hurley, Hartley and Francis down back. Leuenberger ruck. Ambrose and Brown depth. There you go, problem solved.

Francis, hooksy, Hurley forward or back?

 

[darrenbewick#8]

Hard to let go but alot of the top teams just go with one ruck

Jacobs does 90-95%, Goldstein the same, Eagles without NicNat just operating with one, Sydney have bloody Kurt Tippett rucking for them all year i see him more as a forward come ruck even though they have Sinclair aswell both are so versatile and they dont have a 3rd tall forward so it allows. Yes, the hawks have had 2 aswell but no Roughead, No Schoey much this year from memory? and Gunston is basically capable of being a wingman if he wanted playing as the main forward for them basically.

The dogs have been playing 2 genuine rucks all year not going to disagree with that. Geelong have used Z.Smith with more of a chop out from Stanley but hes bloody winning the 100m dash not like TBC would be doing similar and Kersten is a really good moving 3rd tall forward.

I think Hooker, Daniher and M.Brown as 3rd tall is the way to go next year.

Baguley - Hartley - Francis

Tipungwuti - Hurley - Hibberd (Kelly)

Goddard - Watson - Heppell

Z.Merrett - Hooker - Colyer

Fantasia - Daniher - M.Brown

Leuy - Hocking (Tag) - Zaharakis

Myers, Stanton, Parish, Laverde

Emg: Langford

Amended to Myers instead of Mers else LIKE this best 22, could have Dempsey ahead of Goddard who is in the twilight zone, just an average year so far from bj

 

[Bombers36]

Brown Hartley Baguley
Goddard Hurley Tippa
Zakka Heppell Myers
Z.Merrett Daniher Fantasia
Watson Hooker Laverde

Leuenberger Hocking Parish

Bench from: Stanton Colyer Francis TBell

I like that forward line. Joe to kick long bombs from outside 50, Hooker will straighten us up. Lots of X-factor with Fantasia, Laverde & Watson spending time up there, and plenty of options who can swing through - Brown, Colyer, TBell etc

 

[eDPS]

Orazio interview on Fox Footy saying he expects Hooker to play forward with him and Brown next year.

 

[MAAAATTDAAAAMON]

Baguley - Hartley - Francis

Tipungwuti - Hurley - Hibberd

Colyer - Myers - Parish

Zaka - Hooker - Watson

Fantasia - Daniher - M.Brown

Leuy - Heppell - Z.Merrett

Langford, Hocking, Goddard, Laverde

Emg: Gleeson, Bellchambers, Stanton, Ambrose

If Jobe, Hibberd and Hurley don't return (and Stanton does):

Baguley - Hartley - Francis

Tipungwuti - Hooker - Dea

Colyer - Myers - Parish

Zaka - Daniher - Laverde

Fantasia - Bellchambers - M.Brown

Leuy - Heppell - Z.Merrett

Langford, Hocking, Goddard, Gleeson

Emerg: Ambrose, Stanton, Redman

 

[DHepp21]

Round 1 2017 Best 22

FB: Mark Baguley - Michael Hartley - Aaron Francis
HB: Michael Hibberd - Michael Hurley - Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
MF: David Zaharakis - David Myers - Darcy Parish
HF: Jobe Watson - Joe Daniher - Travis Colyer
FF: Orazio Fantasia - Cale Hooker - Mitch Brown
OB: Matthew Leuenberger - Zach Merrett - Dyson Heppell
I/C: Brendan Goddard - Jayden Laverde - Kyle Langford - Heath Hocking

EMG: Tom Bellchambers - Matt Dea - Brent Stanton

 

[Halftimehero]

B Baguley Hartley Francis
HB Hibberd Hurley Goddard(VC)
C Zaharakis Watson Colyer
HF Tippa Daniher Laverde
F Fantasia Hooker Bellchambers
FOLL Luenberger Heppell(C) Z Merrett
INT Parish Myers Hocking Langford
EMERG Brown Stanton Dea

Happy to play two rucks if TBC can get back to his 2013 form where he was kicking goals(28?) when in the forward line, if not Brown would replace him quite easily.

Wouldn't be as upset as first thought if Hibberd decided to leave either with Dea potentially slotting into that backline.

Provided the returning players don't take an extended period of time to get back into the swing of things on field, this team is well capable of winning early finals as of next year.

 

[eth-dog]

The more I think about it, the more I have a bad feeling that Hibberd will leave. As such, this would be my side(s) with who I think will stay/go, and possible draftees:

FB: Baguley - Hartley - Hooker
HB: Francis - Hurley - Goddard
MF: Zaharakis - Heppell - Colyer
HF: Langford - Brown - Daniher
FF: Fantasia - Bellchambers - Walla
OB: Leuey - Z Merrett - Myers
IC: Parish - Stanton - Laverde - Hocking

FB: Dempsey - Ferry - Dea
HB: Morgan - Ambrose - Gleeson
MF: J Merrett - Bird - Long
HF: Redman - Marshall - Hams
FF: Eades - Cameron - Powell-Pepper
OB: Nyuon - Howlett - Wallis
IC: McKenna - Fox - Drew - Holmes - Gallucci

 

[Halftimehero]

The more I think about it, the more I have a bad feeling that Hibberd will leave. As such, this would be my side(s) with who I think will stay/go, and possible draftees:

FB: Baguley - Hartley - Hooker
HB: Francis - Hurley - Goddard
MF: Zaharakis - Heppell - Colyer
HF: Langford - Brown - Daniher
FF: Fantasia - Bellchambers - Walla
OB: Leuey - Z Merrett - Myers
IC: Parish - Stanton - Laverde - Hocking

FB: Dempsey - Ferry - Dea
HB: Morgan - Ambrose - Gleeson
MF: J Merrett - Bird - Long
HF: Redman - Marshall - Hams
FF: Eades - Cameron - Powell-Pepper
OB: Nyuon - Howlett - Wallis
IC: McKenna - Fox - Drew - Holmes - Gallucci

Only thing is, most of the noise coming out of Essendon is Hooker in the forward line next year.

And you don't think Jobe will return?

 

[boncer34]

All of the noise is that he's going forward.

 

[eth-dog]

Only thing is, most of the noise coming out of Essendon is Hooker in the forward line next year.

And you don't think Jobe will return?

I'm on record saying I prefer him in defence for various reasons.

I'm 50/50 on Jobe. Just a bad feeling about it.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Only thing is, most of the noise coming out of Essendon is Hooker in the forward line next year.

And you don't think Jobe will return?

It all depends on Hurley.

 

[Halftimehero]

It all depends on Hurley.

Absolutely, banking on him being there.

Interesting from Joe last night on the couch, he said Hurls has told the boys he won't be shaving his beard off until he comes back....

 

[Doss]

Absolutely, banking on him being there.

Interesting from Joe last night on the couch, he said Hurls has told the boys he won't be shaving his beard off until he comes back....

I think those beard comments have been the subject of enough overanalyses in the suspended 12 thread already.

 

[Halftimehero]

I think those beard comments have been the subject of enough overanalyses in the suspended 12 thread already.

Haven't read it sorry

 

[Doss]

Haven't read it sorry

All good all good, I just reckon the last time I knew of such intensive discussion about facial hair was when I tried arguing the toss when I was in Year 10 about being told by my principal that I had to lose my four day old shadow.

 

[Bombers36]

I think Hibberd is as good as gone so at this stage a side like this should win a few and maybe push for finals;-

Brown Hartley Baguley
Goddard Hurley Stanton
Zakka Heppell Myers
Fantasia Daniher Colyer
Watson Hooker Tippa

Leuenberger Hocking Z.Merrett

Bench from: Parish Laverde Francis TBell

 

[BrunoV]

Based on what we currently have, if I had my way I'd be playing a team that looks something like:

Baguley Hartley Francis
Hibberd Hurley Goddard

L'berger Merrett Heppell
Laverde Fantasia Zaharakis

Redman Daniher Langford
McKenna Hooker Brown

Myers Watson Parish Colyer


Weak links are Baguley, Colyer and McKenna (for different reasons). Nothing significant about being named on the bench, I expect that Myers is one of the first few included in the team sheet when fit, just trying to emphasise what the properly balanced side we ought to be aiming for would look like.

Love Hocking as a player and expect him to play footy but Worsfold does not seem to be playing run with players which means that Hocking is competing with other inside mids head to head (and defense is his biggest strength). The younger generation of mids, Merrett, Laverde, Parish and Fantasia, are defensive animals and not reliant on us picking specialist defensive players. The onus will be placed on Watson to join Myers using his size to the best advantage for the team and playing a more selfless/defensive role around the ball.

It's probably a bit early to make the call but I expect that Long and Eades will be heaping selection pressure on the best 22 because of their work rates, running power and skill.

Not thrilled about the third tall defender options but the combination of Francis, Goddard and Hibberd as mid-sized players provides more than enough in the air to offset the one on one weakness of the individual who would play the role. Ferry could play as a third tall defender from round 1 next year as long as he gets over his current knee problem.

Not sure what we would do if we ended up with someone like Patton. It will create a problem with the balance of the side. Hooker forward probably doesn't work as well, Goddard is not as necessary in defence. It could be a straight swap for Mitch Brown but Mitch Brown is playing seriously good footy which compliments the other forwards.

Don't think that the second ruck position is important enough to stuff around with two first rucks in a side (with Leuenberger suited to 80% ruck minutes). Nyuon showed some signs forward last week. I'd be aiming to develop him for the role in 2018/2019.

Will go out on a limb, as I reckon that we've seen enough now that the "Walla" magnet might as well be permanently attached to a forward pocket on the whiteboard.

Someone referenced Worsfold saying that he saw Tippa's future "forward or back" a few weeks ago. The signs were already there that we were not necessarily going to persist with him in defence where he gets exposed as a defender. I doubt we could have expected more from his first game as a forward.

He is much more suited to defending as a forward which is basically all about pressuring opponents at ground level. That he is sublime off both feat and as creative as they come makes it a "no brainer" as far as I'm concerned. His ability to hit a target with a left and right foot opens the whole forward line up almost ever time he is the player kicking into 50.


Baguley Hartley Francis
Hibberd Hurley Goddard

L'berger Merrett Heppell
Laverde Fantasia Zaharakis

Langford Daniher [Redman/McKenna]
Brown Hooker McDonald-Tipungwuti

Myers Watson Parish Colyer


If Hibberd were to leave I'd have little hesitation picking Gleeson. My preference between Redman and McKenna would be for McKenna because of his power and speed at ground level but it's a bit hard to call at this stage.

 

[Milanista28]

Baguley Hartley Brown
Hibberd Hurley Goddard
Zaharakis Heppell Colyer
Laverde Daniher Fantasia
Francis Hooker Tippa
Looey Zerrett Watson
Hocking Parish Myers Langford

 

[rumply]

Will go out on a limb, as I reckon that we've seen enough now that the "Walla" magnet might as well be permanently attached to a forward pocket on the whiteboard.

Someone referenced Worsfold saying that he saw Tippa's future "forward or back" a few weeks ago. The signs were already there that we were not necessarily going to persist with him in defence where he gets exposed as a defender. I doubt we could have expected more from his first game as a forward.

He is much more suited to defending as a forward which is basically all about pressuring opponents at ground level. That he is sublime off both feat and as creative as they come makes it a "no brainer" as far as I'm concerned. His ability to hit a target with a left and right foot opens the whole forward line up almost ever time he is the player kicking into 50.


Baguley Hartley Francis
Hibberd Hurley Goddard

L'berger Merrett Heppell
Laverde Fantasia Zaharakis

Langford Daniher [Redman/McKenna]
Brown Hooker McDonald-Tipungwuti

Myers Watson Parish Colyer


If Hibberd were to leave I'd have little hesitation picking Gleeson. My preference between Redman and McKenna would be for McKenna because of his power and speed at ground level but it's a bit hard to call at this stage.

yep Tippa a permanent fixture forward has to be all but a given, one element of what the side has been desperately missing for years.

 

[Yoda_]

Will go out on a limb, as I reckon that we've seen enough now that the "Walla" magnet might as well be permanently attached to a forward pocket on the whiteboard.

Someone referenced Worsfold saying that he saw Tippa's future "forward or back" a few weeks ago. The signs were already there that we were not necessarily going to persist with him in defence where he gets exposed as a defender. I doubt we could have expected more from his first game as a forward.

He is much more suited to defending as a forward which is basically all about pressuring opponents at ground level. That he is sublime off both feat and as creative as they come makes it a "no brainer" as far as I'm concerned. His ability to hit a target with a left and right foot opens the whole forward line up almost ever time he is the player kicking into 50.


Baguley Hartley Francis
Hibberd Hurley Goddard

L'berger Merrett Heppell
Laverde Fantasia Zaharakis

Langford Daniher [Redman/McKenna]
Brown Hooker McDonald-Tipungwuti

Myers Watson Parish Colyer


If Hibberd were to leave I'd have little hesitation picking Gleeson. My preference between Redman and McKenna would be for McKenna because of his power and speed at ground level but it's a bit hard to call at this stage.

Feel the irishman has shown enough capabilities in the VFL that half back is his spot to gain with the little to no impact he has had forward of centre in the VFL games i have seen this year.