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There were some pretty heavy weapons already around when the document was written. Weapons like a Puckle Gun weren't in common circulation like it's equivalent today, but they writers of the second amendment certainly knew of it, and were also talking about ship armament too. Those are some big guns.Someone needs to point to him that the birthright was for 1800 era guns, not semi auto weapons.
The rest came from corrupted supreme court decisions and can be safely thrown out, no god was involved in those decisions.
There were some pretty heavy weapons already around when the document was written. Weapons like a Puckle Gun weren't in common circulation like it's equivalent today, but they writers of the second amendment certainly knew of it, and were also talking about ship armament too. Those are some big guns.
Look I'm not really sure to be honest. You have to take into account the history of why it was written - America had just fought a war against its British overlords to establish sovereignty, so of course that newfound freedom was what framed the constitution and it's subsequent amendments. What's its effects today? Well, I've seen reports that people have stopped gun violence with guns of their own in large numbers, but it's hard to get a bead on just how accurate that is given the person threatening them probably had a weapon thanks to that same amendment, so perhaps it's a self-licking ice-cream in that regard. Maybe not. I think the fact that most western societies don't have the same gun violence problems as the US while still having lawful gun ownership is a clear indicator that the issue is far deeper than just the right to own a firearm.SErious question has the 2nd amenment actually been used to defy government tyranny? These days defiance is more easily achieved via use of lawyers/ rule of law rather than the rule of gun. And this has to be a good thing. While the 2nd has been used as a defense for the mentally ill to have a right to have guns (as in how dare you restrict my second amendment right just because I am mentally ill) I'd say the second has killed more people than it has freed.
Thanks.Look I'm not really sure to be honest. You have to take into account the history of why it was written - America had just fought a war against its British overlords to establish sovereignty, so of course that newfound freedom was what framed the constitution and it's subsequent amendments. What's its effects today? Well, I've seen reports that people have stopped gun violence with guns of their own in large numbers, but it's hard to get a bead on just how accurate that is given the person threatening them probably had a weapon thanks to that same amendment, so perhaps it's a self-licking ice-cream in that regard. Maybe not. I think the fact that most western societies don't have the same gun violence problems as the US while still having lawful gun ownership is a clear indicator that the issue is far deeper than just the right to own a firearm.
I was considering the possibility that NRA members would donate their time (as a PR move) to train the teachers and then claim it as a tax deduction.
This would save the government some of the costs of hiring the trainers.
NRA members can be hired as security guards (jobsngrowth), a new form of low skilled labour to replace manufacturing industry i guess.
Hypothetical.Hypothetical.
Teachers get armed/trained. Shooter situation in a school. Teacher tries to take out the shooter but kills a student instead.
I wonder if the buffoons suggesting this approach think the teacher should get legal protection in this scenario?
That's not a hypothetical, that's a certainty!Hypothetical.
Teachers get armed/trained. Shooter situation in a school. Gunman, realising teachers are armed, takes out the teacher first, without any prior warning.
No reasonable person expects 100% effectiveness. Hard not to wonder how the hell they missed it when there's been several reports and they actually looked into bits and pieces without getting anywhere.Over 100 million gun owners, an economy creating a permanent underclass, lack of mental health facilities, unencumbered access to say s**t on social media.
The FBI is supposed to get all of them?
I'd guess they would have 10,000s of these types of reports sitting in their files.No reasonable person expects 100% effectiveness. Hard not to wonder how the hell they missed it when there's been several reports and they actually looked into bits and pieces without getting anywhere.
Possibly. They also have a massive budget and it's their job. Gotta ask questions.I'd guess they would have 10,000s of these types of reports sitting in their files.
What's wrong with a chai latte? They taste nice.Love America, best coffee in the world- just black gunk that gives you pep, none of that chai latte soy crappachino bullshit. Deep dish pizza. Apple Pie, tasty beer and heaps of ******* guns. America is the best.
I think McVeigh wanted to try something along those lines, but it wasn't used by his defence team because the argument would have been difficult to push given his actions caused "innocent" casualties.Has anyone ever tried to use their act of gun violence as a political attack on the government?
I'm curious if someone would try and use their right to arms and forming a militia as a legal defence by claiming their act was politically motivated.
I know the USA calls that terrorism and I'm not sure the right to have a militia also protects the actions of that militia
Well technically god has just reinterpreted it to mean 'everyone' instead of just 'well regulated militia'.God wrote the second amendment did he now?
Jesus.
It responded by saying its members were being punished, but would not be intimidated, by what it called "a shameful display of political and civic cowardice" from some corporations.
The NRA said in a statement its more than 5 million law-abiding members had nothing to do with the failures of school security, the mental health system, or both local and federal law enforcement that it said had caused the tragedy.
"Despite that, some corporations have decided to punish NRA membership in a shameful display of political and civic cowardice," the statement said.
God wrote the second amendment did he now?
Jesus.