Border Gavaskar Trophy, India v Australia, 1st Test 9-13 Feb, 1430hrs at Nagpur

[Cotchin 9]

Ricky Ponting failed three times in sub continent. Did they drop him?

No.

Travis has every right to be livid.

Agreed, he should be livid.

 

[Voice of the G]

and lyon what a disappointed so far by a leader of the team need to step up and do something

thought he was pathetic today

Cummins the same and Boland only 3 overs.

 

[Doggy]

No, it would be stupid for him to interfere with the ball so that has to be taken into consideration when trying to make up a reason as to why some pretty inconclusive footage is somehow automatic proof of ball tampering.

If a golfer is accused of cheating with no conclusive proof, when he’s two shots behind his nearest rival and 3 ahead of his next one, with a hole to play, do you think that would be factored into the equation differently than assessing the golfer who is one shot behind the leader as they both approach the last fairway with $500k on the line? Of course it would be. Because to make any accusation you have to establish context, motive, and evidence.

So far you have half of one of those: distant, obscured footage of a guy rubbing a ball.

Sorry to point it out to you but that’s not evidence of cheating.

I didn't say it was evidence of cheating, I said it could be.

Dismissing it because it would be stupid is ridiculous. All cheating is stupid.

It's like eye gouging in football where there is no reason for someone's hands and fingers to be around another's face and eyes.

Again .. dismissing something because it would be stupid is stupid itself

 

[swanssince2002]

If I was Head, based on the past 2 Australian summers I thought I was a safe bet. Played 2 crucial counterattacking innings in the past 2 seasons that saved in the innings which led to wins.

You can say his away form is spotty but you decide to keep Warner in the side anyway... double standards...

 

[010203]

You’re right I got that one wrong. I think I was looking at a home series.

The home series you were thinking of was late in 2021 when India won a two test series against New Zealand 1-0

 

[Voice of the G]

We were trying too hard to get wickets. In índia patience and persistence is so important. Bar Murphy, who was great, we had none of it. Overpitched crap. índia taught us how to bowl on that wicket.

Boland was OK.Cummins and Lyon were terrible.Murphy a great debut.

 

[010203]

Todd Murphy gets a tick for his bowling in the last session. Marnus, Smith, Carey and Handscomb got in but none went on with it. Rohit Sharma is seeing them like beachballs at the moment.

 

[PhatBoy]

I didn't say it was evidence of cheating, I said it could be.

Dismissing it because it would be stupid is ridiculous. All cheating is stupid.

It's like eye gouging in football where there is no reason for someone's hands and fingers to be around another's face and eyes.

Again .. dismissing something because it would be stupid is stupid itself

Yes of course it COULD be. He also could not be and his nationality shouldn’t really have anything to do with that.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Looking at Cummins’ body language - Jesus even Michael Clarke gave more as captain. There’s just nothing to get behind as a nation.

Michael Clarke was one of our really good captains.

 

[Doggy]

Yes of course it COULD be. He also could not be and his nationality shouldn’t really have anything to do with that.

Ummm ok.

I don't recall saying he might have ball tampered because he's Indian...

Indians have hardly been impartial to their fair share of cheating but that's hardly been used as evidence.

What is suspicious is getting something from another player then working on the ball.

If that was Australia people would be up in arms ... but like I said earlier I've been assured on social media by Indians that they don't cheat in any way, so you have to take that as gospel

 

[Jimthegreat]

Boland was OK.Cummins and Lyon were terrible. Murphy a great debut.

Yes, for the few overs Boland bowled he was pretty good. Just hardly bowled. Murphy is going to be a class act.

 

[NYRB]

Michael Clarke was one of our really good captains.

India bat all day tomorrow, would put the game in the bed. Aussies to be all out for under 200 in 2nd innings? Given most on here reckon day 2 will be best to bat on.

 

[PhatBoy]

Ummm ok.

I don't recall saying he might have ball tampered because he's Indian...

Indians have hardly been impartial to their fair share of cheating but that's hardly been used as evidence.

What is suspicious is getting something from another player then working on the ball.

If that was Australia people would be up in arms ... but like I said earlier I've been assured on social media by Indians that they don't cheat in any way, so you have to take that as gospel

Didn’t you literally say he can get away with it because the BCCI runs the game?

 

[JT_the_Man]

Give Boland the ball ffs

 

[Westend]

India bat all day tomorrow, would put the game in the bed. Aussies to be all out for under 200 in 2nd innings? Given most on here reckon day 2 will be best to bat on.

Most likely the game will be all over by the end of day three

 

[Doggy]

Didn’t you literally say he can get away with it because the BCCI runs the game?

It's not really disputable that the BCCI has a huge hold on the ICC.

If that's news to you, you've been living under a rock your whole life

 

[HugeJohnson]

David Warner in his last 25 innings averages 29, surpassing 50 four times. This average is skewed slightly by his 200 v a terrible South Africa at home, without that he has an average of 22 in the last 2 years.

Over his Career, he averages 22 in India.

He is 36 years old.


His continued selection is absolutely FARCICAL. There can be no more justification for it, there can be no more bullshit statements of "he's a champion and we're gonna back him in to turn it around".

His test career for Australia should be over as soon as this test is finished. He is done.

 

[Nuggetz]

What pitch issues?

 

[Doggy]

What pitch issues?

India have one left hander...

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Hard to find too many positives from that effort. Carey looked good (until he didn't), Smith and Marnus looked great but were both soft dismissals. Murphy looked to have a much better idea of an ideal length than Lyon.

Plenty of cricket still to be played, but at this stage it's looking like our second test in a row partially lost by Cummins, Bailey and McDonald completely misreading conditions and selecting accordingly.

Handscomb for Head in particular feels like a panic stations call without a huge amount of justification, particularly given the multiple second chances granted Warner over 20 months of barely laying bat on ball.

 

[Nuggetz]

India have one left hander...

And how did it look when aus lefties were batting?

 

[Westend]

‘It’s nonsense’: Aussie star calls ‘bulls**t’ over controversial Jadeja moment

‘It’s nonsense’: Aussie star calls ‘bulls**t’ over controversial Jadeja moment

www.foxsports.com.au

whats going on here ??? ummmmm

 

[1990crow]

Ummm ok.

I don't recall saying he might have ball tampered because he's Indian...

Indians have hardly been impartial to their fair share of cheating but that's hardly been used as evidence.

What is suspicious is getting something from another player then working on the ball.

If that was Australia people would be up in arms ... but like I said earlier I've been assured on social media by Indians that they don't cheat in any way, so you have to take that as gospel

Exactly. Phatboy made it about race.
Cheating doesn't care what colour skin you have.

 

[Doggy]

And how did it look when aus lefties were batting?

Shyte ... they prepared essentially a pitch that played differently between right and left handers

 

[Crankyhawk]

Agreed, he should be livid.

I was livid when I heard the decision (started listening at lunch due to work)
Then I heard Warner had failed again and I was all wtf!