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Anyone that has interest in “ The Irish Troubles” I recommend a BBC doco on YouTube .
I thought I knew most of what there was to know about this subject , but now there is documents through FFI that shed a lot more light.
Also with passage of time , some of the players are prepared to be far more candid.

4 part series and absolutely brilliant.
 
I've been hooked on the short series Challenger - The Final Flight on Netflix its all about the Space Shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986 and its brilliant. There is so much footage and there are interviews with the astronauts prior to the accident and all the things that went wrong. This was the flight that had the first civilian - teacher Christa Macauliffe aboard. (Without spoiling too much, one of the crew on challenger was supposed to go on the two previous flights, but got bumped by two congressmen as NASA needed the support of congress to keep the program going. The whole thing reminds me of the Titanic disater where the greed and agendas of other cost other peoples lives

Check it out
 
Anyone that has interest in “ The Irish Troubles” I recommend a BBC doco on YouTube .
I thought I knew most of what there was to know about this subject , but now there is documents through FFI that shed a lot more light.
Also with passage of time , some of the players are prepared to be far more candid.

4 part series and absolutely brilliant.

Sorry 7 episodes
 

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I've been hooked on the short series Challenger - The Final Flight on Netflix its all about the Space Shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986 and its brilliant. There is so much footage and there are interviews with the astronauts prior to the accident and all the things that went wrong. This was the flight that had the first civilian - teacher Christa Macauliffe aboard. (Without spoiling too much, one of the crew on challenger was supposed to go on the two previous flights, but got bumped by two congressmen as NASA needed the support of congress to keep the program going. The whole thing reminds me of the Titanic disater where the greed and agendas of other cost other peoples lives

Check it out

Yep - watched it. Very interesting.
 
"Who Killed Little Gregory" on Netflix has got me in. I'm halfway through. Can be a difficult watch (obviously the subject matter), but you need to pay attention as it also has a few subtitles (French case - doco's in English) and keeping up with who's who in the puzzle is a challenge. It's an 80s case which also leaves you shaking your head with the behaviour of media and the judiciary back then (well I'm hoping it's changed from back then). So if you like true crime it's a bizarre bizarre story and interesting to see what was/is obviously a high profile case from another country that I'd never heard about.
 
I've been hooked on the short series Challenger - The Final Flight on Netflix its all about the Space Shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986 and its brilliant. There is so much footage and there are interviews with the astronauts prior to the accident and all the things that went wrong. This was the flight that had the first civilian - teacher Christa Macauliffe aboard. (Without spoiling too much, one of the crew on challenger was supposed to go on the two previous flights, but got bumped by two congressmen as NASA needed the support of congress to keep the program going. The whole thing reminds me of the Titanic disater where the greed and agendas of other cost other peoples lives

Check it out


I think I'll take a look at the Challenger series
Is there anything about Columbia?
 
If you like Mark Heap then you should definitely watch Big Train if you haven’t already. That and, of course, Brasseye. Him and Kevin Eldon are probably my two favourite sketch-comedy actors.

Thanks so much for recommending Big Train Mantis Toboggan, it's so funny. I'm watching the sketch where Hall & Oates take a job cleaning a rundown London estate. So silly.

I hero-worship Chris Morris, he's the best. If you've never heard his radio shows I think you can find them on youtube. Or listen to this. Completely improvised by two comedy geniuses:

 
Thanks so much for recommending Big Train Mantis Toboggan, it's so funny. I'm watching the sketch where Hall & Oates take a job cleaning a rundown London estate. So silly.

I hero-worship Chris Morris, he's the best. If you've never heard his radio shows I think you can find them on youtube. Or listen to this. Completely improvised by two comedy geniuses:


I absolutely love ‘Why Bother’. I first read about it in Disgusting Bliss: The Brass Eye of Chris Morris, which is definitely worth a read if you haven’t already.

Morris and Cook are quite incredible. Some of the stuff they come up with off the cuff had me in pieces.

One thing I’ve not listened to enough of is Blue Jam. I’ve never found it in podcast form or anything like that. Maybe it’s on YouTube somewhere. I should make time to seek it out because what I’ve heard is very very good.

Like this:

Voiced by Mark Heap actually.
 
I was lucky enough to listen to the Chris Morris Radio 1 show and blue jam live. I missed the start of a Jeff Buckley gig because I had my earphones in listening to Chris Morris while in the audience. The one hour Chris Morris DJ show was better, he played his favourite tunes & in between he did his comedy. Peter Baynham was his sidekick.

The Chris Morris Radio 1 show was so amazing. Radio 1 is the triple JJJ of Uk broadcasting, and in the 90s the controller got loose and encouraged left field stuff. The traditional Radio 1 audience hated it, but they allowed Chris a whole hour to himself.

On Boxing Day in day in 1994 his show was on and he was playing a tune, and he stops the track and interrupts and says "I'm sorry to announce that the entertainer Jimmy Saville has died." Of course Jimmy (later a notorious pedophile) was very much alive.

Then the BBC switchboard starts lighting up with hundreds of callers wanting to confirm that Jimmy Saville was dead! No internet in those days.

Then they did the funniest ******* thing ever. They pretended that they had the actual corpse of Jimmy Saville in the studio with them, and then told the audience that were sticking pencils into his windpipe to make holes. Then they blew into his windpipe and made his mouth open and close, and then worked out that they could make him say surreal words by manipulating his corpse. And the poor bastards who randomly tuned into Radio 1 believed it.

Depraved, awful maybe. But it was the greatest radio ever. I wish he'd go back to radio.
 
Chinatown. It's always listed as one of the great movies of all time, so I watched it. For the first part I thought "This is all very interesting, but what's the fuss?" It's starts off like a gumshoe detective, pulp fiction standard. Then the second half of the movie kicks in. Oh my word. Mindblowing. It's a harrowing fable of the worst of humanity.

It was directed by Roman Polanski who famously fled from the US to escape pedophile charges, no spoilers, but watch the movie and reflect on this. I know some people boycott the movie for this reason, but I downloaded it illegally, I try to separate art from its creator.

The whole thing is sumptuously shot, Hollywood in the 70s had the money to make movies delicious to behold. It feels like you're in a waking dream. Jack Nicholson is absolutely brilliant in the lead, he knocks The Dude from Lebowski into a cocked hat. Such as a badass performance. Faye Dunaway is superb too, I love how her character develops. It is a traumatic movie, be warned, if you're not doing so well or have suffered violence and sexual abuse I might not watch it xxx be safe.
 

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Anyone that has interest in “ The Irish Troubles” I recommend a BBC doco on YouTube .
I thought I knew most of what there was to know about this subject , but now there is documents through FFI that shed a lot more light.
Also with passage of time , some of the players are prepared to be far more candid.

4 part series and absolutely brilliant.

Is it the one from 'Spotlight?'

I grew up in Northern Ireland, was born in 1974 and lived there till I emigrated in 1999. What actually went on is only coming to light now. So much smoke & mirrors. The Brits are like the yanks in South America, we were pawns in their game.



This was where my dad grew up & lived. Catholics & Prods lived next door to each other in Alliance Avenue then this happened.

I think America today is pretty close to Northern Ireland in 1969. Close to kicking off.
 
Is it the one from 'Spotlight?'

I grew up in Northern Ireland, was born in 1974 and lived there till I emigrated in 1999. What actually went on is only coming to light now. So much smoke & mirrors. The Brits are like the yanks in South America, we were pawns in their game.



This was where my dad grew up & lived. Catholics & Prods lived next door to each other in Alliance Avenue then this happened.

I think America is pretty close to Northern Ireland in 1969.


I have a fair bit of the Emerald running through my veins bresker.
( my clan were from the south of the country )
Its something that I can’t explain ,I love Ireland and almost had a homecoming while driving through the country.
If I had to live anywhere else in world it would be Ireland.

The conflict has always been an interest for me, I think I have seen every doco there is to be seen on the subject.
Lets hope this fragile peace survives.
 
An English film director was fed up with the Brits treating Ulster like it was a boring subject on the news. So he made this. They are dramatic recreations of actual murders. There was such uproar when they put it on TV. People don’t like the truth



(sorry for hijacking the thread with weird Irish stuff will stop now)
 
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An English film director was fed up with the Brits treating Ulster like it was a boring subject on the news. So he made this. They are dramatic recreations of actual murders. There was such uproar when they put it on TV. People don’t like the truth



(sorry for hijacking the thread with weird Irish stuff will stop now)

When I first came to Australia in 2014 I did some backpacking with a few lads from Belfast. The way they described it the place is still suffering. They told me there were streets they could not walk down even now. Another Irish lad joined up with us and it was actually a bit of an issue that he was a fenian (their words). I didn’t know how seriously to take it but they said that if they were back home there’s no way they’d be hanging around him.

Pretty sad stuff really. I’m from Leeds. Only a few hundred miles away really but it seems like another world.

They were nice lads to be honest. I suppose when you’re brought up in that environment you are bound to be affected by it.
 
When I first came to Australia in 2014 I did some backpacking with a few lads from Belfast. The way they described it the place is still suffering. They told me there were streets they could not walk down even now. Another Irish lad joined up with us and it was actually a bit of an issue that he was a fenian (their words). I didn’t know how seriously to take it but they said that if they were back home there’s no way they’d be hanging around him.

Pretty sad stuff really. I’m from Leeds. Only a few hundred miles away really but it seems like another world.

They were nice lads to be honest. I suppose when you’re brought up in that environment you are bound to be affected by it.
I was in Belfast not so long back and watched the annual march of the Orange men with a Catholic friend who grew up in the area. It was peaceful enough, but a disturbing undercurrent of antagonism lingers. I was also there in 1980 at the height of "the Troubles".

My impression is that Northern Ireland has done incredibly well since the Troubles ended in the 90s. Back then the tit-for-tat acts of violence seemed like they would go on forever.

The way forward involved a lot of compromise and forgiveness on both sides, as well as some truth-telling. A similar thing happened in South Africa at about the same time after Mandela's release. It's a huge ask when some of your family, friends and colleagues have been killed in the conflict, many of them just unlucky to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But it was the only way forward.

The scars remain and will probably remain for many decades to come but I do tip my hat to them all that they have made it this far.
 
Yeah , I don’t know how much it has scarred me. It’s hard to know when you grow up with it. The hatred when Bobby Sands and the hunger strikers starved themselves to death was the worst, such hatred. And they blew my hometown up with car bombs a couple of times , for a while I couldn’t walk past parked cars at night in case they exploded.

It felt amazing when I first came to Melbourne and I realised I could walk anywhere and go anywhere I wanted and not feel paranoid about someone asking my religion.

I’m from a Protestant background but my family are non political. I believe in a united ireland because I hung around with republicans at Uni , they’re just more fun than prods and they accepted me. The English are colonialists but they don’t get taught at school that colonialism isn’t much fun for the people they invade. Also Catholics have much, much better music.



Anyway to bring it back to movies/TV - this is from my favourite movie. Brooklyn. I love it. It's very, very special to me because it tells the story of my life. I watch it every few weeks and I cry, I cry for Ireland and how it must be for my poor mother to have her son in Australia. We had to emigrate in our millions, because our country got so ****ed up. If it wasn't the English killing us and transporting us or spuds failing, it was poverty and backwardness and stupid religion. I love it because it has no guns or bombs even though it's about Italians and Irish people in New York. I love it because it shows why middle class people like me emigrate. Saoirse Ronan is perfect.

I'm really proud to be Irish. We've suffered a lot but we are still great fun. We built half of Australia. More probably. Before Sudanese and Lebos and wogs were picked on, the Aussie Brit establishment hated us.

"These are the men who built the tunnels, the bridges, the highways. God alone knows what they live on now." I knew those men in the early 2000s when I drank in Clifton Hill. I don't know where they drink now.

https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/media/brooklyn-2015.html

Sorry this isn’t the TV thread any more. We interrupted this broadcast normal programming will resume soon.
 
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bresker and all, have you seen Eureka Street? It was a pretty good mini series set in Belfast. I particularly loved the last few minutes of the final episode. :'( I read the book too :)

 
bresker and all, have you seen Eureka Street? It was a pretty good mini series set in Belfast. I particularly loved the last few minutes of the final episode. :'( I read the book too :)



 
I am here, I have had it recommended to me & it was a famous book when first published.

I don't know, I think I need to let the Irish stuff go for a while. I am going to see a counsellor specialising in grief and trauma and PTSD. This stuff is having a negative impact on my life. Not to be a Debbie Downer sorry again TV thread.
 
I am here, I have had it recommended to me & it was a famous book when first published.

I don't know, I think I need to let the Irish stuff go for a while. I am going to see a counsellor specialising in grief and trauma and PTSD. This stuff is having a negative impact on my life. Not to be a Debbie Downer sorry again TV thread.
Sorry to hear it has had that effect on you mate, hope all goes well. Let me know if you ever want to talk.
 

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