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He is one of the most underrated players of the last decade.

He is highly regarded but he should be considered on par with the likes of Brownlow medalists and other elite players.
He's A-grade or elite or whatever....
 
Phark I would kill to have McVeigh the younger at Essendon....great leader, cleanest ball handling and disposal going around, hard at the ball and man, unbelievable decision maker and gut runs till he drops. Complete player.
having both of them in the same team would have been nice.
 

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Dempsey had a shocker but I'll forgive him.

Bellchambers playing hurt us greatly, but Paddy will need his load managed over the next few weeks. I think we play better with him as a lone ruck.

Hibberd out hurt.

Hooker was down. Frustrated me seeing him point fingers left right and centre at blokes who should have been filling space to help him out rather than getting down to the business of beating Tippett 1 on 1. ******* smarten up Cale.

Ambrose is too happy to draw contests we have numbers at because he's tired. 2 or 3 times we had them outnumbered and he walked it over the line or was happy to hold the ball in for a reset. Teams with a winning mentality would be keeping it alive.

Sydney played the umpires better than us. They were cleaner at their feet and got their knees lower, resulting in the imbalance in the free kick count. In saying that, the one not payed to Paddy after Richards mauled him in the first qtr was as bad a decision as I can remember.

Stanton used defensively through the flanks and wings for the first half? Why? Freed up in the 2nd and he racked them up.

Baguley. Can't handball left handed or am I seeing things?

Wow - Hooker - Do you realised that's he played four times against Tippett and Cloke and conceded one contested mark inside forward 50 - You dream of your key defenders performing in this manner.
 
Ted Richards had Ryder in a headlock 20m out from goal..."Play On".

Spot on - It was Richard's treatment of Ryder that could be questioned - Thought Grundy's treatment of Carlisle was OK.
 
Unsure about a few posts. We are a good defensive team and our all-ground pressure makes it hard for the opposition to score. Swans found it hard to break away all night - The game was one of attrition in which both sides struggled to break free - To say that we played lazy unaccountable footy is nonsense. Where we lost the game was disposal efficiency - Our kicking, particularly in the first half was poor, and we don't transition the ball well enough intoour forward 50.
 
Interesting observation from the two games - Game 1 - SWans 24 scoring shots VS Essendon 19 scoring shots - Game 2 - Swans 24 scoring shots VS Essendon 17 scoring shots. This shows that defensively we are doing OK, but we are lacking offensively.

Heppell - Great learning experience to go head-to-head with a smart player in McVeigh. Thought McVeigh got away from Heppell in the first half, but Heppell fought back well. Thought it was an even battle.
 
Sorry for the intrusion. I thought Hurley and Heppell were very impressive.

Heppell has been a star since his first game, but his work rate and grunt work has been excellent since your captain's injury. We've got a few grunters in our midfield who all had a turn on him but he just carried on with his game.

Serious question. What do you make of their respective hairstyles?
Love Hepp's hair. Hurley's is lame as.
 
Just watched that Goodes free kick a few times and he should cop as much shit as Thomas does, really ****ing annoying when he does something like that then the commentators carry on about how good he has been, how could they have not seen what he did? I have no doubt they are selective in what they say about certain players and it's ****ing bullshit.
 
Interesting observation from the two games - Game 1 - SWans 24 scoring shots VS Essendon 19 scoring shots - Game 2 - Swans 24 scoring shots VS Essendon 17 scoring shots. This shows that defensively we are doing OK, but we are lacking offensively.

Heppell - Great learning experience to go head-to-head with a smart player in McVeigh. Thought McVeigh got away from Heppell in the first half, but Heppell fought back well. Thought it was an even battle.


When we go into a game with the numbers around the ball attitude we had we basically can't win against any serious team. Our players just don't run hard enough forward (strange as it is given that they don't run hard defensively either) which is a big part of the reason the forwards struggle. The forwards take a field position to high up the ground and don't work back hard enough to start deep when leading at the ball carrier. The lack of movement between the arcs also doesn't create the space that forwards need to be effective.

We desperately need Aylett, Ashby, Gleeson, Dalgleish, O'Brien, Browne, Fantasia, Merretts and Kav to have massive uninterrupted pre-seasons at the end of the year. We need to find 3 to 4 genuinely "box to box" midfielders.
 
Love Hepp's hair. Hurley's is lame as.

Agreed. I seriously think though that Heppell's hair dominates peoples opinions of him. IMO he's underrated, particularly with his in and under work, and the hair plays a sub conscious role there. If he gets it cut, I'll get on him for the Brownlow. :)

A ponytail suits Schoenmakers, but it just doesn't suit Hurley. I won't go further for risk of being banned on Big Footy for sexism.
 
Why is costing a team a game the only context in which we can discuss umpiring?

We pay (something that gets so easily forgotten) to watch games on a level playing field and week in, week out these campaigners deny us that right (and it is a right) through either sheer, earth-shattering incompetence, or something worse.

Regardless of how any of the four teams have played so far, in the two games so far we have not received the product we are entitled to.
Spot on.

**** I hate the argument of "oh we made errors so the umpires are all good."

Piss off.

Yeah, we were ordinary for parts of the game. No doubt. We would've been lucky to win, I agree.

Does that mean that yet another laughably bad performance from the umpires is OK? No ****ing way.

The argument from the self-proclaimed "pragmatists" seems to be that if our players under perform, then we cannot speak of bad umpiring.

It's illogical and unbelievably stupid.

If you want to not be angry over it, I get it. More power to you.
But to try to spin your argument that way is moronic.
 

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Good to hear BJ's comments about the Sydney game being a step forward still for the team. Let's face it, even without Franklin it's hardly a shitkicker forward line, is it?? They were well held, I thought. After some of the jobs they've done on good teams up there, considering the score at quarter time, it could've been a long night. To win the scoring after that despite zero help from their extra three players, bodes well for the run home. Exciting times.
 
Wow - Hooker - Do you realised that's he played four times against Tippett and Cloke and conceded one contested mark inside forward 50 - You dream of your key defenders performing in this manner.

Body language speaks volumes. Every time he got led up to the ball by Tippett he pointed fingers left, right and centre. It looked poor.

I've been rapt with his performances, don't get me wrong, but he has to realise that our mids are playing against the best midfield in the league and that they can't get back to help and fill holes every time the Swans took the ball forward as they have to be accountable for their opponent.

The help he's been getting from the pressure applied by our midfield has helped his cause, no doubt ...
 

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No issue with Hooker pointing etc, I find it as a players understanding what his going on the role of a team defense , that these days it is very team orientated defense. Can't always work but I just think it's him trying to lead the backline, making sure everyone knows their jobs.
 
No issue with Hooker pointing etc, I find it as a players understanding what his going on, that these days it is very team orientated defense. Can't always work but I just think it's him trying to lead the backline, making sure everyone knows their jobs.

Yeah for all we know someone could have broken a non-negotiable team rule. Every right to get pissed in that case.
 
Body language speaks volumes. Every time he got led up to the ball by Tippett he pointed fingers left, right and centre. It looked poor.

I've been rapt with his performances, don't get me wrong, but he has to realise that our mids are playing against the best midfield in the league and that they can't get back to help and fill holes every time the Swans took the ball forward as they have to be accountable for their opponent.

The help he's been getting from the pressure applied by our midfield has helped his cause, no doubt ...

Good defenders will always get burnt on the lead from time-to-time and give away the odd free kick - But contested marks inside 50 must be stopped.
 
Good defenders will always get burnt on the lead from time-to-time and give away the odd free kick - But contested marks inside 50 must be stopped.

I completely agree. Like I said, he got led to the ball and was finger pointing which, in my opinion, isn't a good look.
 
I completely agree. Like I said, he got led to the ball and was finger pointing which, in my opinion, isn't a good look.
It depends more on wider vision and team instructions though if someones job was to fill the space to stop that lead and someone, ro a few players were constantly not obeying the team rule/instruction, I'd glad he's doing it and aware of it. It's not good if you train for it all week and players don't execute on game day. I think it jusy showed Hooker was well aware of what was happening what instructions were being followed.
 

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