Society/Culture Elon Musk - Takeover of Twitter?

[Chief]

I'm commenting on a lack of ability to see something happening today and extrapolate that to work out what might happen tomorrow and tne day after

It's one of the key aspects of the frontal lobe expanding in evolution

It's a slippery slope argument... but the slope you're comparing it to is more of a sharp cliff, with murder.

 

[BigPond101]

It's a slippery slope argument... but the slope you're comparing it to is more of a sharp cliff, with murder.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"

Anyway this discussion is pointless for now. I'll retire from this thread until Adolf Dutton is elected PM and everyone here does a 180 and is crying about censorship and fascism. See y'all on the other side

 

[Gough]

Anyone think he spoke to the Chinese about internet censorship?

‘Watershed moment’ for Tesla as Elon Musk’s visit to China reaps quick reward

Deal to use mapping data from web search giant Baidu is a big step towards launching driver assistance tech in world’s biggest car market

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chief]

What I got from this post .. you are standing there watching the first Jew be sent to the gas chamber and you say "I am still laughing at the idea 6 million Jews will be killed in the holocaust LOL."

Equating this with removal of a graphic video, about which people are free to talk anyway.

 

[swingdog]

I'm commenting on a lack of ability to see something happening today and extrapolate that to work out what might happen tomorrow and tne day after

It's one of the key aspects of the frontal lobe expanding in evolution

You never know what's going to happen in history. If only young Adolf had been better at art etc.

 

[Gralin]

Gassing Jews.

Removing a video of a stabbing.

Same same for you?

no we've moved onto $20 of KFC will make me fat which I already know from experience

 

[evolved2]

How do you know that people don't trust the govt??

1) At least 500 protests have been staged across the city (Melbourne) over the past six months, with an average of 21 protests held in the CBD weekly.

Thousands of police redeployed amid protest action in Melbourne

www.9news.com.au

The large-scale protest numbers indicate a public that isn't satisfied with government action.

2) ALP's primary vote of 32.6% was enough to win the last federal election, indicative of the two majors being on the nose with voters.

3) Anecdotal evidence, word on the street, social media.

 

[evolved2]

I don't think it's fanboi as such.

But similar to Trump, they recognise his abilities to condone their racist/bigot/conspiracy views.

So have become supportive

I suggest you're looking at a small number of Australians who fit the mold.

I trust the Australian Govt over a billionaire like Musk or even the Meta owner.

I don't need to trust Musk to be on his side in this instance. The Aus government have gone overboard with censorship and other internet law, and a little pushback is a good thing.

I don't disagree, the quality of politican and the basic standards we expect of them are a symptom though

Yep, we need to tax miners more

But try getting that through parliament when people who would benefit disagree the most

Agree with all that.

No, but we acknowledge minimum standards of human decency so don't have to jump to the slippery slope fallacy when they make what appears to be a reasonable request.

Geoblocking content is a perfectly reasonable response. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.

 

[Cap]

I suggest you're looking at a small number of Australians who fit the mold.

I don't need to trust Musk to be on his side in this instance. The Aus government have gone overboard with censorship and other internet law, and a little pushback is a good thing.

Agree with all that.

Geoblocking content is a perfectly reasonable response. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that point.

Media watch seem to agree with you

 

[Chief]

Geoblocking content is a perfectly reasonable response.

VPN = no longer geo-blocked. What then?

 

[evolved2]

VPN = no longer geo-blocked. What then?

That's why I don't really care about geo-blocking, metadata laws, or copyright troll litigation. I disagree with a lot of internet law and support the loophole that VPN's provide.

 

[Gralin]

1) At least 500 protests have been staged across the city (Melbourne) over the past six months, with an average of 21 protests held in the CBD weekly.

Thousands of police redeployed amid protest action in Melbourne

www.9news.com.au

The large-scale protest numbers indicate a public that isn't satisfied with government action.

Dissatisfaction isn't about lack of trust

2) ALP's primary vote of 32.6% was enough to win the last federal election, indicative of the two majors being on the nose with voters.

Popularity isn't about trust

3) Anecdotal evidence, word on the street, social media.

Anecdotes aren't evidence

You should have just linked treasury data

Trust in national government | Treasury.gov.au

Trust in institutions

treasury.gov.au

 

[Number37]

1) At least 500 protests have been staged across the city (Melbourne) over the past six months, with an average of 21 protests held in the CBD weekly.

Thousands of police redeployed amid protest action in Melbourne

www.9news.com.au

The large-scale protest numbers indicate a public that isn't satisfied with government action.

2) ALP's primary vote of 32.6% was enough to win the last federal election, indicative of the two majors being on the nose with voters.

3) Anecdotal evidence, word on the street, social media.

That's easily explained.
Cookers.

What about the other 25 million people?

 

[Gralin]

That's easily explained.
Cookers.

What about the other 25 million people?

So climate change and Palestine rallies are cookers?

 

[Gralin]

I don't you think that

 

[Number37]

So climate change and Palestine rallies are cookers?

No.
Cookers are cookers.

 

[Gralin]

No.
Cookers are cookers.

So what you think only cookers distrust politicians?
Currently only about 50% of people trust them according to treasury data I don't think there are that many cookers

 

[Number37]

So what you think only cookers distrust politicians?
Currently only about 50% of people trust them according to treasury data I don't think there are that many cookers

Distrust of politicians has always been very high.
The question was about distrust of government.
A small distinction but a distinction nonetheless.

There is also a distinction between people protesting Palestine or climate and the cookers.
Climate and Palestinian protestors don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
Cookers do.

 

[Gralin]

Distrust of politicians has always been very high.
The question was about distrust of government.
A small distinction but a distinction nonetheless.

There is also a distinction between people protesting Palestine or climate and the cookers.
Climate and Palestinian protestors don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
Cookers do.

Obviously you didn't read the link

Trust in national government | Treasury.gov.au

Trust in institutions

treasury.gov.au

 

[BigPond101]

When life gets hard

And the E safety commissioner takes away your last freedom of expression

What you gonna do

 

[Ghost Patrol]

When life gets hard

And the E safety commissioner takes away your last freedom of expression

What you gonna do

Post your stabbing video to a different website?

 

[Captivating]

Another data breach for NSW Pubs and Clubs.

Hopefully some of the dickheads in Canberra (incl the e-safety Commissioner) have their details exposed so they think twice about requiring age verification for the internet.

If Canberra wants to be useful, enact law requiring businesses to delete personal information. Why do pubs and clubs need to capture and store your personal ID anyway?

 

[BigPond101]

Post your stabbing video to a different website?

There are no other websites

Classic tactics

 

[mcgrath_truther]

man if only there were MORE gore sites that people could freely access. we're being so censored that gore isn't widely accessible anymore.

more gore and videos of people dying = more freedom

 

[Number37]

Obviously you didn't read the link

Trust in national government | Treasury.gov.au

Trust in institutions

treasury.gov.au

I am skeptical.
80% say they trust the po-po.