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Make that pick a bit later and swap the words 'forward' and 'defender' around and we have Esava. Except he's four years older, and uncontracted, and wants out.
Traded Esava Ratugolea [Traded to Port Adelaide for #25, #76 and #94]
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There are plenty of young players have kicked bags in finals, then nothing comes from there career
Port fans: "Esava hasn't played every game in the best 22 so he's a spud worth peanuts"
Also Port fans: "Lord hasn't played every game in the best 22 but you need to cough up first rounder minimum for him!!"
Also Port fans: "Lord hasn't played every game in the best 22 but you need to cough up first rounder minimum for him!!"
Any examples?
On paper he would yes but his form the last 4-5 weeks of the year was horrible that combined with Dickhead Dixons injuries meant Lord on form and structure was the best choice
Lord actually showed lots of promise this season imho should’ve kicked more early on if his technique and confidence wasn’t as bad as it was but he grew into it
People thinking with Dixon approaching the end and Georgie an unknown quantity Port will trade him lightly are mistaken
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A forward who burst onto the scene as a late pick, kicked 4 against good opposition then failed as a forward?
You're posting in his trade thread
Sam Wediman was 20 or 21 years old against Geelong in 2018 Elimination Final at the G
Nathan Ablett kicked 3 in a Grand Final in 2007
Look im not saying he won't make it.. I bloody hope he does... But you can't say his worth round 1 pick after 1 brilliant game in a final ( im not saying you personally ).. To be fair its the only 1 brilliant game his played.. every club and there supporters think that there own club youthful kids are going to be better than all of the other clubs.. But Ollie Lord has potential... and most kids that have potential don't make to be stars.. he could still have a great career like Ben Brown has or a Rory Lobb.. but to have a great career like Jeremy Cameron and Tom Hawkins and Jack Reiwoldt and Josh Kennedy is very slim
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Lord played trash and didn’t come on until late this year. Now he’s a legit replacement for Dixon. One is also contracted the other isn’t, so why would port accept unders when they don’t want to lose him?
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Hard one to discuss because you want to be respectful of the player that Wines has been for Port and the level of emotional investment Port fans would have in the man. He probably has some great footy left in him. I just don't think there's any possibility that the value Port would want from him will match what Geelong would get from the equation. So I think it's best for everyone if we don't even address it. This thread is poisonous enough as it is.
Esava himself kicked 3 in a final funnily enough!
Esava is 25 year old tall utility who has plugged holes all over the ground while remaining on the fringes for his entire career.
Lord is a 21 year old key forward who only broke into the team this year and proved himself on the big stage after just 13 senior games.
There's no comparison in their value.
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Lord broke into the team for one game and in retrospect should not have.
When Sav was 21 he had played 30 more games and kicked 3 goals in a semi final against the reigning premiers. The next year he had a 4 goal haul against Richmond. He would still be a best 22 forward at the cats if we didn't land the Cameron trade.
Lord is the same player at 21 that Sav was at 21, only Lord has already been trialled as a defender.
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Isn’t Wines on 900k?
Honestly you should give us Wines and his salary for a future 1st...lol
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I actually like the kid, he's not going to die wondering and you can't teach attitude. But to be throwing him out there as somehow more than Sav is just fans over-valuing players they like
Port will be happy to walk Sav in via the PSD where other Clubs have to first know what Port's offer is, prior to matching it.
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Reportedly 800k for the next 2 years. Not out of this world but still a lot tied up in an on-baller being pushed out of position
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I think you'll find Hawthorn more than amenable to your contract terms.
Lucky Hawthorn then, Esava really is not this much of a big deal. We want him but he's not good enough to sell the farm for.
Why, if he puts a price on his contract that he's happy for another club to pick up then good for him, he's shown very clearly that he's wanting out of Geelong.
The funny thing about the PSD threat is Port lose out more than Geelong... 37 is a garbage pick in this years shallow draft...
I don't think it will end up going down the psd route but your comment simply isn't true. Geelong could lose a player they want a 1st rounder for for zilch where Port could not end up with a player we have never had.
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