Player Watch Is Jordan Dawson the best value trade in the last couple of years?

[CrowToon]

I cannot imagine anyone answering in the negative to this question. Still cannot believe Sydney rolled over that hard.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

What a stupid thread when you low balled them and forced them to take under?

Mind blowingly stupid.

FWIW Dangerfield leaving for a packet of chips wins.

 

[Crouch]

I think we were out for blood due to the whole Tippett debacle.

 

[Cleric]

Umm

He finished 3rd in the Swans Best and Fairest in 2021....

Pretty sure we rated him as elite at that point in time...

Ben Keays finished 2nd in our B&F in 2021 and third in 2022. Does that make him worth a top 10 pick?
He was drafted with pick 56, so he wasn't a hyped Jr.
For how he was performing you got a first rounder that ended up at pick 18. That was his worth at the time.

 

[Cleric]

What a stupid thread when you low balled them and forced them to take under?

Mind blowingly stupid.

FWIW Dangerfield leaving for a packet of chips wins.

And like clockwork a Port Power supporter comes in to try and s**t on the Crows.

 

[RUNVS]

I cannot imagine anyone answering in the negative to this question. Still cannot believe Sydney rolled over that hard.

Had no choice. Crows were strongly threatening to pick him up in the PSD. Swans knew he was worth way more than Adelaide offered but we had no choice but to accept the scraps Adelaide offered.

 

[Cleric]

You didn't watch him at Sydney did you? Far better than a b grade player.

What's your definition of an A grader? He had one good year where he finished 3rd in their B&F and got 6 brownlow votes. In the same year Ben Keays finished 2nd in our B&F and had 11 Brownlow votes. You think he was or is an A grader?
People throw out that A grader tag real easy.
Dawson is playing like an A grader now, but his form since joining Adelaide is better than it was at Sydney.

 

[CrowToon]

Had no choice. Crows were strongly threatening to pick him up in the PSD. Swans knew he was worth way more than Adelaide offered but we had no choice but to accept the scraps Adelaide offered.

There was a choice that would've meant he was the last one.

 

[TheBigHorne]

Really good value but not as good of a gave/got back as some other steals in the past couple of years such as Aliir and Wright.

 

[RUNVS]

What's your definition of an A grader? He had one good year where he finished 3rd in their B&F and got 6 brownlow votes. In the same year Ben Keays finished 2nd in our B&F and had 11 Brownlow votes. You think he was or is an A grader?
People throw out that A grader tag real easy.
Dawson is playing like an A grader now, but his form since joining Adelaide is better than it was at Sydney.

Was easily a top 5 player at the Swans in his last year with us, probably top 3. Ultimately it does not matter what you think, Swans fans knew what we had and we rated him as such.

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

And like clockwork a Port Power supporter comes in to try and s**t on the Crows.

Say something stupid, you'll get pointed out. It's also not Port Power.

Others said it too. So cry elsewhere.

You low balled them. Now you are bragging? Are you all there?

 

[darcytiger]

Can you post a photo of him so I know what he looks like?

 

[The 747]

And like clockwork a Port Power supporter comes in to try and s**t on the Crows.

He's right though. Everyone knew he was worth signficantly more than the Crows offered. The Swans are a professional organisation so they copped it on the chin and moved on.

Also Crow fans have spent more than a half a decade complaining about the Dangerfield trade. Now want to jump for joy about ripping Sydney off.

 

[WillHayward]

Fair call..but Sydney have also attracted some of the biggest names from interstate where the crows almost never have (not including returning home A born players)

Buddy
Lockett
Tippett (at the time you got him)
etc

Barrrreeee Hall...

We've struggled lately. Think we had a big crack at Darcy Moore but why leave the Pies.

 

[WillHayward]

I think we were out for blood due to the whole Tippett debacle.

Think you probably won that.

Fair to say Tippo wasn't my favourite player...

 

[WillHayward]

Can you post a photo of him so I know what he looks like?

He'd be your best player.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Looks like an absolute gun.

 

[MF]

I had people on my own board laughing at me for saying he was easily worth what we were offering and more. Clearly they'd never seen him play and just had their blinkers on.

Drives me nuts how cheap people on Crows board think we need to pay for everyone else's good players then think we can charge a kings ransom when they come for ours.

In all seriousness, it was a really good get by the crows. I wrote on your board at the time that he was worth a top 6 pick and got laughed at. I reckon most teams in the comp would hand that and a bit extra over in hindsight.

He's turned into the player we thought he'd be and it hurts to see it.

 

[PhatBoy]

As a straight trade it’s a good one.

Getting Cameron for Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

29

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

was a pretty good one for us albeit indirectly

 

[Dirty Bird]

Not really as The Crows lowballed/black mailed the Swans into accepting their deal with the threat of the PSD.

It was manipulative and sneaky by the Crows, the Swans knew they were losing a quality player for unders.

But good luck to the Crows for playing the PSD card. More clubs should do it imo

Karma's a bitch isnt it

(They) Shouldn't have screwed us with Tippett.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Karma's a bitch isnt it

(They) Shouldn't have screwed us with Tippett.

Fair enough, although Tippett and his massive contract most probably cost the Swans another flag or two, he was an absolute disaster for the Swans lol

 

[VictorianCrow85]

In all seriousness, it was a really good get by the crows. I wrote on your board at the time that he was worth a top 6 pick and got laughed at. I reckon most teams in the comp would hand that and a bit extra over in hindsight.

He's turned into the player we thought he'd be and it hurts to see it.

Yeah I understand the leverage we had and didn't mind us using it to the extent we did but talks of 2nd rounders were ridiculous. Just classic under valuing of other teams players.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

I really wish a Crows fan hadn't started this thread.

Yes, we got excellent value for him, but there's been plenty of trades like this. We were on the receiving end of it from Geelong when we gave Danger for hardly anything for instance.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

What's your definition of an A grader? He had one good year where he finished 3rd in their B&F and got 6 brownlow votes. In the same year Ben Keays finished 2nd in our B&F and had 11 Brownlow votes. You think he was or is an A grader?
People throw out that A grader tag real easy.
Dawson is playing like an A grader now, but his form since joining Adelaide is better than it was at Sydney.

Was a top 3 player in a side that just catapulted up the ladder back into finals, rated elite in his position.

6 brownlow votes for a guy playing his position is a bigger deal than 11 for midfielder playing as a primary mid so not sure what point you are making there.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

I really wish a Crows fan hadn't started this thread.

Yes, we got excellent value for him, but there's been plenty of trades like this. We were on the receiving end of it from Geelong when we gave Danger for hardly anything for instance.

Hes been great value but there's plenty of trades that are, pretty hard to seriously rank them all.