I think both teams are making finals regardless of result. However it then becomes a question of how far the teams can go in September. Whoever loses will continue to have the tag of 'still unproven against quality opposition' unless it's just one of those close contested games between decent teams that a result could go either way.It’s how you have beaten people though that’s what impressed me. I still have question marks over the Pies and it will be a good test. I will be going to the game and if we do well or win against the Dees I will be convinced that we will return to the 8 this year