Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 14

[Enviable Tradition]

Finally after a few years on the diet it's happening!

That's pretty typical.


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[Jojay]

Sooky Sooky Clarkson. What about taking responsibility yourself!? You flog

 

[Power freak 2008]

Imagine buying this horseshit word for word.

Like the heart foundation tick doesn’t always make something healthy, labeling my post horseshit doesn’t make it it untrue

 

[OneGreatClub]

‘AFL can’t be happy’: Coach’s angry plea

Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has ripped the AFL as a spectacle after a thrilling win in a largely dour match against North Melbourne.

www.news.com.au

“You put a lot of time and effort and endeavour into the game … we had 69 tackles and I don’t think we had a free kick from a tackle,” he said. “69 tackles and not one of them can be adjudicated holding the ball. What’s happened to our game? You can’t have that many tackles and not one of them be incorrect disposal. You wonder why the game is an arm-wrestle and you can’t get any open footy.


But he said he wasn’t going to bring it up directly with the AFL.

“They’ll listen to this press conference no doubt and hopefully they hear it loud and clear,” he said. “The scores, the AFL can’t be happy can they.

“Footy can’t be played in the manner that we liked when it’s being adjudicated in the way it is in the present time, and it’s not the umps’ fault,” he said. “The umps are just doing what they’re told to do but I think our game across the board is not seeing the exciting brand of footy, passages of play, there are hardly any goals being scored — fans love goals, love high marks — but we’re just not seeing anywhere near enough.

Dal Santo said he believes coaches need to take responsibility in how they coach the game.

#freekickhawthorn It's all the games fault not the coaches for their gamestyle.

I guess #freekickhawthorn will be back in vogue

 

[PowerBaz]

If they watched Port games they will realise it’s their own doing.

If Hawthorn were playing exciting footy and Port and West Coast were struggling it wouldn’t even make a discussion.

 

[AdamMarrett]

‘AFL can’t be happy’: Coach’s angry plea

Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has ripped the AFL as a spectacle after a thrilling win in a largely dour match against North Melbourne.

www.news.com.au

“You put a lot of time and effort and endeavour into the game … we had 69 tackles and I don’t think we had a free kick from a tackle,” he said. “69 tackles and not one of them can be adjudicated holding the ball. What’s happened to our game? You can’t have that many tackles and not one of them be incorrect disposal. You wonder why the game is an arm-wrestle and you can’t get any open footy.


But he said he wasn’t going to bring it up directly with the AFL.

“They’ll listen to this press conference no doubt and hopefully they hear it loud and clear,” he said. “The scores, the AFL can’t be happy can they.

“Footy can’t be played in the manner that we liked when it’s being adjudicated in the way it is in the present time, and it’s not the umps’ fault,” he said. “The umps are just doing what they’re told to do but I think our game across the board is not seeing the exciting brand of footy, passages of play, there are hardly any goals being scored — fans love goals, love high marks — but we’re just not seeing anywhere near enough.

Dal Santo said he believes coaches need to take responsibility in how they coach the game.

#freekickhawthorn It's all the games fault not the coaches for their gamestyle.

Clarkson pulled this out well to get everyone to gloss over the fact Hawthorn basically choked on a 5 goal lead.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Now Scott having a sook

 

[OneGreatClub]

If they watched Port games they will realise it’s their own doing.

If Hawthorn were playing exciting footy and Port and West Coast were struggling it wouldn’t even make a discussion.

Yep.. these entitled Vics do my head in

 

[OneGreatClub]

I hope we SMASH HAWKS

 

[Port85]

Clarkson is a genius, watch him get some kind of response that favours Hawthorn from the AFL bending over in the mid to long term.

 

[Grave Danger]

Lel Vic fans and commentators complaining about poor state of modern game.
Watch Port you w***ers

But, but all of Port's games have been low scoring. For one side.

 

[manureid]

Usual Clarkson stuff. Wants more #freekickhawthorn and the reaction as usual will be exactly that. The state of the game is diabolical because we are not getting enough free kicks. Hate to be playing them this week.

 

[Harlott]

Did anyone ask him why the state of the game = not enough free kicks?
I thought they used to say it was less free kicks, more flow.

 

[philreich]

Looking forward to Sunday's game of the year - 17th v 18th. Surely one of them wins, right?

 

[Smithy7]

Looking forward to Sunday's game of the year - 17th v 18th. Surely one of them wins, right?

Hope they have a draw LOL

 

[Tibbs]

Solution is to have a bye in a couple of weeks time, and then move ALL the Vic sides into three hubs in SA, QLD, and WA

Shimples!

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Clarkson is a genius, watch him get some kind of response that favours Hawthorn from the AFL bending over in the mid to long term.

This.

All he wants is a change to the rule interpretations that favour the Hawks.

The Hawks are not good at getting first hands on the ball so of course Clarko wants it to be easier to get it back.

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[70sDinosaur]

If Clarkson is saying that a free kick for incorrect disposal when a player is tackled is not being paid often enough, then I agree with him.

It has been my biggest gripe with the umpiring when watching Port games in recent years.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If you start paying incorrect disposal every time someone drops the ball in a tackle without prior, footy will return to 2005 Sydney under Roos style rolling maul.

It will be uglier than ever, because players will favour ball retention over trying to get a disposal away. So you'll either have stoppagefests or 80 free kicks a game.

Holding the ball is about prior opportunity and always should be. Nobody should ever be penalised for trying to move the ball on if they haven't had prior opportunity. "Reward the tackler" is bullshit. Free kicks aren't about a reward, they are about punishing an infringement.

 

[TeeKray]

Clarkson is right about the way the game is umpired contributing to the poor spectacle but overall his point about the state of the game is akin to an arsonist complaining about the ashy ruin of his own making.

 

[TeeKray]

If you start paying incorrect disposal every time someone drops the ball in a tackle without prior, footy will return to 2005 Sydney under Roos style rolling maul.

It will be uglier than ever, because players will favour ball retention over trying to get a disposal away. So you'll either have stoppagefests or 80 free kicks a game.

Holding the ball is about prior opportunity and always should be. Nobody should ever be penalised for trying to move the ball on if they haven't had prior opportunity. "Reward the tackler" is bullshit. Free kicks aren't about a reward, they are about punishing an infringement.

You always need to think about complementary rules to counter unintended consequences of rule changes. So things like 20 metres for a mark rather than 15 or no mark for backwards kicks would counter those problems.

The number one priority needs to be reducing stoppages. They're a scourge on the game.

 

[malcheski]

You always need to think about complementary rules to counter unintended consequences of rule changes. So things like 20 metres for a mark rather than 15 or no mark for backwards kicks would counter those problems.

The number one priority needs to be reducing stoppages. They're a scourge on the game.

What if, and hear me out, what if we allowed someone else other than a ruckman to jump at a ball up/throw in and smash it clear of the pack to reduce the congestion?

 

[Harlott]

If Clarkson is saying that a free kick for incorrect disposal when a player is tackled is not being paid often enough, then I agree with him.

It has been my biggest gripe with the umpiring when watching Port games in recent years.

I reckon it’s changed noticeably from last year. They’re definitely not rewarding the tackler anywhere near as much as previous years.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Time to move the Victorian teams into hubs and quarantine.

Even Queensland doesn't want them. WCE v Richmond in Queensland game looks like being postponed.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...d/news-story/90f324712b2f428b344317b493c6aa42

 

[Ford Fairlane]