Autopsy Roast & Toast v Fremantle & Changes For Gold Coast

[Groupie_]

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Still waiting for Bauer to clunk 1

Reckon he’s 0 from 10 attempts at getting 2 hands to it

Got potential, hope it clicks

reckon hes a victim of the 'just make a contest' message, no dont just make a contest, ****ing mark the ball campaigner

 

[Black Saab]

Torches the footy he need to improve his kicking

Yeah he can do, but remember Rancey in those early days

Trainor is a competitor and for a guy with only a few games under his belt he is doing really well in his position.

 

[Neen]

Would have preferred the scoreline be a bit closer, but it does reflect where we are as a developing side.

Nank was superb. Broad and Vlastuin are playing their role supporting Brown and Trainor. Out of all the first rounders, Trainor will be the best value. There's our future Rance and Astbury. Once Gibcus is healthy and in form we have a 10 year defensive wall. Taranto and Hopper can only do so much before fatigue set in and the clangers started. No support from Dow or Ross. It is a good place to be when you look forward to Lalor coming back into the side as he will make a difference.

Kids will always get a pass from me as they are the only option. But the players like Green, Banks, Campbell, Tresize need consistency before taking the next step. Short has a ton of possessions, but he is not the half back weapon he was in the Premiership years. Macca started well but faded. Sonsie is not AFL standard. Rioli and Hugo played their role and will get better with time. Blight was played out of position and should have been matched up on Tracy after his third goal in the first quarter. Miller was putrid. Won't get a game when Gibcus returns, and I prefer Young anyway. Need to fix the ruck situation as I can't see Nank going full pelt all year.

Umpiring was putrid, and freo's 6 goal run had one legit goal that was not the result of a dodgy free, or a non free to us. I don't care about the scoreboard, but we are still given a bad run from the Umps.

Take the "circus" of next week out of the news early and pick Balta on Monday.

Out - Miller, Sonsie, Tresize
In - Balta, Lalor, Smillie

 

[The_Kraken]

I still can’t believe the amount of people complaining, A young side will be inconsistent.

New guy

 

[BF Tiger]

First half good.
Second half deplorable. Really wanted to see some more fight.

 

[59Stanley]

47 points is just terrible and uncompetitive. West coast will be us by 10 goals just garbage

 

[_RT_]

We've had about 15 worse losses than this when we were playing finals let alone in year one of a rebuild. Judging by some of the melting I think people need to wake up realise where we are at.

Yes Hopper and Taranto aren't clean but look what happened to the Eagles yesterday when they went all young. Lowest contested possession count in history. That's not helping anyone. These two are battering rams and allow us to rotate some other guys through without smashing them. Anyone can see they're not part of our future but unfortunately it's all we've got right now until the Lalors, Smillies and whoever else are ready to shoulder the load. That's how rebuilds work - you're shit until you're not.

Having said that, I would like us to change up the mix there more often in games. Give Rioli a go or throw a Steely or Campbell in there for a bit of pace. Bolton was our best centre bounce player and he would've been our lightest player on the list almost. We're too flat footed in there a lot of the time.

A few positives from me:

• Brown with 24 touches and thwarted multiple attacks. Getting his hands on it a lot more now and makes good decisions although made a couple of errors today.
• Trainor looks a natural. And tough. Think his kicking will grow as we become better. He's probably trying to pull off a bit much at times but to me that's a sign of great confidence.
• Hugo nice return.
• Miller actually fought back well against Treacy. He was probably genuinely beaten in about 3 contests. He beat him in a few himself. A couple of Treacy's goals came from zero upfield pressure or a turnover and Hopper gave away a high free on one. I think he does give too much room sometimes though.
• A few bemoaning the lack of effort makes me wonder if we're watching the same game. You can clearly see the effort is there right up until the bell but we're regularly outclassed and today in particular were out of gas.

Ugly:

• Short. Too many errors today.
• I've been saying give Sonsie a run in the middle but it's not worth it. Too many weak efforts today. I don't think he'll make it.
• Ross is too up and down. I don't think his role suits him though.
• Tresize. Just don't see it. Fumbles too much and a meh kick.
• The *ing umpiring. I don't normally whinge but * me. The Rioli trip was diabolical.
• All the forwards had shockers really but tough to do much with the supply.

Please refrain from making sensible well thought our posts until at least 2 hours post game as to not interfere with the vents

 

[lalorGOAT]

OUT:

• One of Hopper or Taranto (won't happen though)

I genuinely wonder what goes on in the brains of some of our supporters

 

[peternorth]

Only thing short did all game

 

[HumanMeatball]

its like we play one way till ht, then switch to an awkward possession game that gets picked apart with ease

Because we are tired

 

[lalorGOAT]

Gold Coast are gunna roll us by 20+ goals and there's nothing we can do about it.

I've seen this exact comment every single week. Still waiting for that 20 goal flogging guys.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Because we are tired

the problem with that is we're not relying on kids we've just drafted, so if we're tired it means the likes of taranto and hopper, ross and co cant run out a half of footy. because theyre the ones getting stomped.

 

[copthat]

Anyone that sees any positive from that garbage performance has rocks in their head.
That was an utterly abysmal performance and the players should be ashamed of themselves just horrible

He is not afl standard just weak

Torches the footy he need to improve his kicking

I reckon if we won a game by 80 points you'd whinge we took the foot off the peddle.

 

[voorhees]

First half good.
Second half deplorable. Really wanted to see some more fight.

the umps really took our confidence out from. under us.

 

[HumanMeatball]

47 points is just terrible and uncompetitive. West coast will be us by 10 goals just garbage

Get off the cones

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Toast: first half
Roast: Second half

Gold coast will smoke us next week

 

[Groupie_]

Gold Coast are gunna roll us by 20+ goals and there's nothing we can do about it.

just ordered a fresh batch of hospital gowns

 

[sabso]

Prepare your anuses for a week where the MRO does nothing about Voss hit on Vlastuin and no one in the media talks about the umpiring that ruined a close game

 

[Groupie_]

47 points is just terrible and uncompetitive. West coast will be us by 10 goals just garbage

is the west coast game in perf ? if so we aint winning

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Toast: first half
Roast: Second half

Gold coast will smoke us next week

 

[HumanMeatball]

is the west coast game in perf ? if so we aint winning

Mcg

 

[Ralll]

Completely outclassed through the midfield. Our mids too slow and not smart enough to work out defensive positioning and offensive spread. Kick/mark ball movement too slow and safe, and tackling hardly existent. To make matters worse is we get soundly beaten in CP's and clearance (the thing we're supposed to be good at) and this is with a mostly experienced midfield.
Forwards no chance with messy slow delivery and backs same with clean ball coming the other way.
More convinced this slow methodical kick/mark game is not going to be beneficial for the cubs development with our skill set.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

should be playing Lalor through soreness. Having weeks off just gonna make it worse

 

[bryan wood]

We've had about 15 worse losses than this when we were playing finals let alone in year one of a rebuild. Judging by some of the melting I think people need to wake up realise where we are at.

Yes Hopper and Taranto aren't clean but look what happened to the Eagles yesterday when they went all young. Lowest contested possession count in history. That's not helping anyone. These two are battering rams and allow us to rotate some other guys through without smashing them. Anyone can see they're not part of our future but unfortunately it's all we've got right now until the Lalors, Smillies and whoever else are ready to shoulder the load. That's how rebuilds work - you're shit until you're not.

Having said that, I would like us to change up the mix there more often in games. Give Rioli a go or throw a Steely or Campbell in there for a bit of pace. Bolton was our best centre bounce player and he would've been our lightest player on the list almost. We're too flat footed in there a lot of the time.

A few positives from me:

• Brown with 24 touches and thwarted multiple attacks. Getting his hands on it a lot more now and makes good decisions although made a couple of errors today.
• Trainor looks a natural. And tough. Think his kicking will grow as we become better. He's probably trying to pull off a bit much at times but to me that's a sign of great confidence.
• Hugo nice return.
• Miller actually fought back well against Treacy. He was probably genuinely beaten in about 3 contests. He beat him in a few himself. A couple of Treacy's goals came from zero upfield pressure or a turnover and Hopper gave away a high free on one. I think he does give too much room sometimes though.
• A few bemoaning the lack of effort makes me wonder if we're watching the same game. You can clearly see the effort is there right up until the bell but we're regularly outclassed and today in particular were out of gas.

Ugly:

• Short. Too many errors today.
• I've been saying give Sonsie a run in the middle but it's not worth it. Too many weak efforts today. I don't think he'll make it.
• Ross is too up and down. I don't think his role suits him though.
• Tresize. Just don't see it. Fumbles too much and a meh kick.
• The *ing umpiring. I don't normally whinge but * me. The Rioli trip was diabolical.
• All the forwards had shockers really but tough to do much with the supply.

Great post

How long have north been rebuilding
The melts here are hilarious

Yes,we have plenty of players to replace … can’t do it in 35 seconds
But I guess that’s the way of the new world …. and how young people think …instant gratification