Toast Round 19 = Port Adelaide 83-85 Collingwood

[ThePhantom777]

What about Will Drew's tackle count. 16.

He had one job which he did well... for most of the game

 

[Mollythedolly]

Im curious to know: now that the dust has settled, does everyone still feel convinced about our win?
Do we have something to worry about in Port (and/or their method for stopping us), or are you totally confident we have their measure?

Come finals, they’re as good a chance as us, why wouldn’t we be worried about them?

 

[Mollythedolly]

What about Will Drew's tackle count. 16.

Easy to accumulate tackles if the umps let you wrap up your opponent before the ball is bounced.

 

[Didak Wine]

Easy to accumulate tackles if the umps let you wrap up your opponent before the ball is bounced.

What do the stats people count, surely tackles of a player in possession. I'm not saying he didn't hold nick off the ball.

 

[windchimes]

Im curious to know: now that the dust has settled, does everyone still feel convinced about our win?
Do we have something to worry about in Port (and/or their method for stopping us), or are you totally confident we have their measure?

I'd be pretty confident at the G, less-so at Adelaide Oval but still think we'd edge them out again. That looked like their grand final.

 

[Mollythedolly]

You answered my question. I have that feeling too. Fly testing our players with duress on purpose for development and to hid counter tactics. I've heard that being mentioned during press conferences by Fly and Moore throughout the year

Port heavily rotated through the I/C in that 3rd quarter. I think from memory it was +7 rotations compared to us. We did it in the last. We went into the last quarter with a 3rd of our I/C rotations (-5 compared to Port), finished the game on 72 (+2 compared to Port7. McRae seemed to deliberately hold back the rotations to bring fresher legs in the last.

 

[Mollythedolly]

What do the stats people count, surely tackles of a player in possession. I'm not saying he didn't hold nick off the ball.

Where did I suggest Daicos didn’t take possession? Just making the point it’s easier to complete the tackle if you’ve already wrapped up your opponent before he actually takes possession.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

To give everyone an idea of the ridiculous standard Nick Daicos is already held to...

AFL Report Card: One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year

One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year: Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

In the votes

Clutch hero Jamie Elliott was huge, kicking three goals — it would’ve been four if not for a selfless assist to milestone man Taylor Adams

3

Taylor Adams

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.9

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.4

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.9

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

18.2

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

— including the game-winner. Playing in his 200th game, Adams dug in hard with 25 touches, 12 contested possessions, nine clearances and a goal playing more around the ball. Steele Sidebottom

22

Steele Sidebottom

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.4

5star

K

14.1

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

24.0

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

12.0

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

31.6

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

17.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

6.0

5star

(26 disposals, one goal) was also big, highlighted by a ripping left-foot goal at the start of the fourth to ignite the Pies’ comeback.

Nick Daicos had 25 Disposals, 9 clearances and a goal and was considered to have a "poor" game and "won't be in the votes"

 

[nahnah]

To give everyone an idea of the ridiculous standard Nick Daicos is already held to...

AFL Report Card: One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year

One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year: Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

Nick Daicos had 25 Disposals, 9 clearances and a goal and was considered to have a "poor" game and "won't be in the votes"

The goal posts always change for Nick, he gets 35 and 2 goals he has been a receiver who doesnt lay a tackle, he gets 25 with 10 clearances, 6 tackles and 10+ contested he has had a quiet game and impacted by a tag.

 

[vinnievavoom]

Come finals, they’re as good a chance as us, why wouldn’t we be worried about them?

We have their measure if we play well. I'm more concerned about Brisbane. Melbourne is also a threat.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Just heard Hinkley on the Rioli suspension & their appeal... thinks "his hand slipped up" & "I've seen worse" lol.

Wtf? I hope they use that as their defence.

 

[BuildEmUp]

The goal posts always change for Nick, he gets 35 and 2 goals he has been a receiver who doesnt lay a tackle, he gets 25 with 10 clearances, 6 tackles and 10+ contested he has had a quiet game and impacted by a tag.

quite a few press said it was one of the best games he has played given the circumstances

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

quite a few press said it was one of the best games he has played given the circumstances

It's unbelievable isn't it? Since when are those stats from Saturday a quiet game for anyone? He was criticised when he got lots of possessions, now he's being criticised for getting less which are more contested, impactful and plenty of those 'hard balls' everyone was banging on about.

 

[JuniorB]

It's unbelievable isn't it? Since when are those stats from Saturday a quiet game for anyone? He was criticised when he got lots of possessions, now he's being criticised for getting less which are more contested, impactful and plenty of those 'hard balls' everyone was banging on about.

External critics of Nick can GAGF.
We know what we have - a potential all-time great.

 

[Fat Jesus]

We have their measure if we play well. I'm more concerned about Brisbane. Melbourne is also a threat.

Don't be concerned about any side mate.
Our best is better

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

External critics of Nick can GAGF.
We know what we have - a potential all-time great.

Agree about external critics. What I've found bizarre is hearing our own supporters saying he got sat on his arse, etc etc

 

[Pistol Night]

Agree about external critics. What I've find bizarre is hearing our own supporters saying he got sat on his arse, etc etc

I pity people taking pot shots at a 20yo kid purely because he plays for Collingwood. Says a lot about the insecure flogs

 

[Mick F]

We have their measure if we play well. I'm more concerned about Brisbane. Melbourne is also a threat.

We lose to Melb, first final at MCG, we are likely playing Port in SA Prelim.

 

[unplugged]

I'm not saying Nick Daicos had a poor game but if stats weren't a thing, people would be more willing to just acknowledge he was down on output and move on.

 

[unplugged]

We lose to Melb, first final at MCG, we are likely playing Port in SA Prelim.

Meh. If we can't beat Melbourne at the MCG in a home QF, maybe we don't deserve to win the flag anyway.

 

[Pistol Night]

Meh. If we can't beat Melbourne at the MCG in a home QF, maybe we don't deserve to win the flag anyway.

We’re not losing to Melbourne next time

 

[DoubleO7]

Daicos was subjected to illegal holding tactics, especially at stoppages, yet still put up 25D 9CL 1G.

 

[Big Bryza]

I'd be pretty confident at the G, less-so at Adelaide Oval but still think we'd edge them out again. That looked like their grand final.

They threw the kitchen sink at us and failed.

Melbourne are our biggest danger. That's who we'll play in the first final. The winner of that is flag favourite.

 

[Big Bryza]

To give everyone an idea of the ridiculous standard Nick Daicos is already held to...

AFL Report Card: One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year

One glaring fail… and four others came close; B-grade effort ‘sums up’ contender’s year: Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

Nick Daicos had 25 Disposals, 9 clearances and a goal and was considered to have a "poor" game and "won't be in the votes"

The blokes at Fox Sports are genuine nuffies with NFI about the game.

 

[vinnievavoom]

We lose to Melb, first final at MCG, we are likely playing Port in SA Prelim.

I believe Port will drop to 3rd or 4th. Moas t likely 4th. We may play them at home and blow them away provided we pay well.