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Might br Worth that
Traded Steven May [traded with Kade Kolodjashnij to Melbourne for pick 6]
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Might br Worth that
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Pies need May more than any side in the 8!
Buckleys_Chance
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GC could be keen to trade him if he refuses to re-sign because they won't want the same controversy next year. Not saying they will get unders for him, but not overs.
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Hawk_francais
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ME: "Steven are you planning to leave the club next year?"
SM: "Depends if you get your act together"
ME: "Fair enough"
SM: "Depends if you get your act together"
ME: "Fair enough"
Snake_Baker
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If Collingwood land both Lynch and May then we may as well scrap the salary cap and call it for the farce that it is.
In a perfect world, that is how it would go. But we can't head into another campaign with our captain possibly leaving. It is way too destabilising for the club and a young group of players to constantly hear. All we will hear about exactly like this year would be a massive star possibly leaving us.
Would rather we focus on getting a 100% unified club on and off the field next year instead of having to field will he/won't he questions.
Hawk_francais
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Hawks managed to get a premiership in 2013 when many inside the club felt that our biggest star would leave.
A unified club is a delusion, and not a reality at AFL level. It's hard to remember that at any given club there's a group of players who are less than happy with the coach or some other players. That's life and it's certainly footy. If you have a good enough systems and a culture of professionalism then you can overcome that though.
If Steven May is not sure on his commitment to the suns, then he should hand over the captaincy - but there's no reason to trade a star because he's having doubts. The club should be robust, but the last thing it can afford to do is perpetuate this rhetoric of loyalists vs traitors.
Cochrane can bemoan free agency all he wants, Hawthorn people and Adelaide people have done it before him. The rules didn't change then and they won't change now. Time to get to work on the list. Players like Brendan Whitecross, Anthony Miles, or Jarryd Blair should be part of any trading for Lynch. It's an excellent opportunity to snatch some players who can help lead the culture of the club.
Buckleys_Chance
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No one knows how each clubs salary cap is managed. If a team that finished 13th last year, and is now 6th with an easy draw has salary cap space for two big names, it's not that unbelievable... To play devil's advocate: if the reigning premiers have sufficient cap space to sign a million dollar player, we may as well scrap the salary cap and call it for the farce that it is.
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Snake_Baker
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No one really knows how gravity works either, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Buckleys_Chance
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Very well constructed thought, the only thing I will say is the difference between Hawthorn in 2013 and us now is we are sitting near the bottom and there are calls from people to fold the club up already which is amplified more when our best players are leaving. Not saying it wouldn't have had an effect on Hawthorn in 2013 though.
Yeah of course 100% buy in from every single player is never achievable when you have 44 players on a list who all think they should be in the starting 22. We are looking for 44 quality players that just want to be here. From all accounts this whole fiasco thing seems to have galvanised the group and they have never been closer.
FWIW I believe Lynch is 100% correct in deciding to chase Free Agency, your shelf life in the AFL is so short and you need to do what is best for you. I think give it a few more years, and people will be getting their head around it. In the whole history of the sport Free Agency has only been around for a very small part of it.
Im trying go look at this from Gold Cost view
If He signs a long term deal - Great keep him and captain next 5-6 years
If he doesn't sign what can you trade him for that would make it a viable option ?
They would need to and will demand overs to trade him as being a contracted player
The team that wants him would 1st need to pay him good money and satisfy GC trade expectations
If he stays GC will get a #1-#4 next years as a free agency compo
He wont come cheap
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No, plenty of people know how gravity works to quite an advanced degree actually.
And in fact there are plenty if available resources available to find out.
A clubs salary cap is something far more opaque to anyone not in direct access to it.
Maybe use a better analogy.
Big difference between a top 4 playing squad with genuinely good leadership and culture with a few spotfires on the list, compared to a bottom 4 playing squad with likely losing 3 of their 8 leadership squad members (Lynch, Rosa confirmed, Barlow likely) with Swallow and May also rumoured.
Hawk_francais
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Was kinda the point of my post. With good leadership and culture, ladder position becomes less relevant to club and player management.
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I reckon Melbourne should have a crack at him. Not sure how their cap is but you'd hope they could find a way to fit him in.
Would make them even harder to beat.
Would make them even harder to beat.
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pebblestone
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I know they just got Lever. Just reckon they need another big bloke down there since Oscar may not be all they hoped he would be. Just a thought anyway.
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Well obviously you can trade in a 2nd rounder or use a future 2nd.
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Would look so bad if both of GC's captains go to Collingwood this year
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