Top 5 Midfields 2024

[Elmer_Judd]

Not sure Soligo or Pedlar can be considered exciting when they get outshone in their own highlight reel. It’s a challenging feat but somehow they’ve achieved it.

You don't have to have an extensive 'highlight' reel to be a decent midfielder in the game.

Still plenty of room in the game for less flashy/more workman like mids like Soligo and Pedlar.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You don't have to have an extensive 'highlight' reel to be a decent midfielder in the game.

Still plenty of room in the game for less flashy/more workman like mids like Soligo and Pedlar.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.afl.com.au/video/942414/pedlar-perfection-delivers-a-ripper%3FvideoId%3D942414%26modal%3Dtrue%26type%3Dvideo%26publishFrom%3D1685786134001&ved=2ahUKEwjzkLqg2LiDAxXLTWwGHdaKAJIQo7QBegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3Y7eFp96hRN-cv74DtQvqH

 

[Elmer_Judd]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.afl.com.au/video/942414/pedlar-perfection-delivers-a-ripper%3FvideoId%3D942414%26modal%3Dtrue%26type%3Dvideo%26publishFrom%3D1685786134001&ved=2ahUKEwjzkLqg2LiDAxXLTWwGHdaKAJIQo7QBegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw3Y7eFp96hRN-cv74DtQvqH

Pedlar also had a rough start to his career with injuries, but what impresses me that I feel like he can also have an impact if he goes foward.

It's a bit perplexing to me why a couple of Hawthorn posters look down upon Pedlar, the Hawks produced the 2nd greatest working class midfielder I have ever seen (after Diesel) in their coach Sam Mitchell.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Pedlar also had a rough start to his career with injuries, but what impresses me that I feel like he can also have an impact if he goes foward.

It's a bit perplexing to me why a couple of Hawthorn posters look down upon Pedlar, the Hawks produced the 2nd greatest working class midfielder I have ever seen (after Diesel) in their coach Sam Mitchell.

Look I'm not one of the Hawks posters that infects every Hawk-related thread and invariably turns it into a handbag fight. Well I try not to anyway.

I'll say that it's not Pedlar the player, he is already a handy half forward. It's the fact he was being included as a midfielder in these kinds of threads when he did not play in the midfield essentially for the vast majority of the season, bar some scarce time on a wing.

It's just presumptuous to include him in these lists - and whilst I understand completely that he is going to make the midfield transition, there needs to be that qualifier.

Similar to us including MacDonald - who is another midfielder (drafted as) come half forward, that is looking to work his way into the midfield rotation. They just haven't proven it yet. Same too with (for us) Mackenzie and Hustwaite, and about three or so players for Adelaide too in Nankervis, etc.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Look I'm not one of the Hawks posters that infects every Hawk-related thread and invariably turns it into a handbag fight. Well I try not to anyway.

I'll say that it's not Pedlar the player, he is already a handy half forward. It's the fact he was being included as a midfielder in these kinds of threads when he did not play in the midfield essentially for the vast majority of the season, bar some scarce time on a wing.

It's just presumptuous to include him in these lists - and whilst I understand completely that he is going to make the midfield transition, there needs to be that qualifier.

Similar to us including MacDonald - who is another midfielder (drafted as) come half forward, that is looking to work his way into the midfield rotation. They just haven't proven it yet. Same too with (for us) Mackenzie and Hustwaite, and about three or so players for Adelaide too in Nankervis, etc.

Good and sensible post.

I think the plan for the Crows is probably to push Rachele up into the midfield eventually (once he builds his tank and endurance up)

The game is evolving and positions and body types change.

If you watched all or most of Wayne Carey's career, like I did, it's literally mind boggling to me that Patrick Cripps is 3 cm taller than him.

In his prime, Carey always looked like the tallest and most dominating player (size wise) out there.

Crippa is also 1 cm taller than our dual Coleman Medalist Charlie Curnow

 

[Caligo]

Shows how little idea you have of the modern game...

Not even that modern. Leading clubs have been running a dozen mids in the rotation since peak Geelong 15 years ago.

 

[mpal6]

Him and Neale aren't the best kicks in the league, let's put it that way.

Out of all Lions midfielders, McCluggage is our best kick in terms of weight and placement going inside 50 for our forwards. His vision to spot a forward in congestion is a class above. You have no idea.

 

[Fadge]

Not even that modern. Leading clubs have been running a dozen mids in the rotation since peak Geelong 15 years ago.

Indeed.

When I referred to 'modern', it was a reference to AFL in the 21st Century.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Out of all Lions midfielders, McCluggage is our best kick in terms of weight and placement going inside 50 for our forwards. His vision to spot a forward in congestion is a class above. You have no idea.

Ok whatevs

 

[H00t]

You don't have to have an extensive 'highlight' reel to be a decent midfielder in the game.

Still plenty of room in the game for less flashy/more workman like mids like Soligo and Pedlar.

The highlight package was used to show that he was an exciting player for the crows.

I was simply pointing out it was an incredibly lacklustre highlight video and not the thing to be used to try and pump up a player as exciting.

Nothing to do with how workman like mids Soligo and Pedlar will be.

 

[Cyclops]

Has anyone told you it's definitely?

Nah he was talking about something that looks a bit like a fishes legs. De-fin-ately

 

[Walshawk]

Pedlar also had a rough start to his career with injuries, but what impresses me that I feel like he can also have an impact if he goes foward.

It's a bit perplexing to me why a couple of Hawthorn posters look down upon Pedlar, the Hawks produced the 2nd greatest working class midfielder I have ever seen (after Diesel) in their coach Sam Mitchell.

He was Mitchell working class? He was an absolutely one touch class player with elite skills and decision making.

Working class to me are grunt mids like Newcombe - go in hard and run all day.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Shows how little idea you have of the modern game...

CBA stats back up my post.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Not even that modern. Leading clubs have been running a dozen mids in the rotation since peak Geelong 15 years ago.

No one uses a dozen midfielders in a typical game. Maybe over a season.

 

[Caligo]

No one uses a dozen midfielders in a typical game. Maybe over a season.

Just using hawthorn as an example because I know them better than other clubs, on any given day during their threepeat playing their best 22 they would run these players through the midfield:

McEvoy
Mitchell
Hodge
Lewis
Shiels
Burgoyne
Smith
Hill
Rioli
Bruest
Roughhead
Hale

And that is conservative. I could have easily named another 5.

 

[Fadge]

Just using hawthorn as an example because I know them better than other clubs, on any given day during their threepeat playing their best 22 they would run these players through the midfield:

McEvoy
Mitchell
Hodge
Lewis
Shiels
Burgoyne
Smith
Hill
Rioli
Bruest
Roughhead
Hale

And that is conservative. I could have easily named another 5.

Players to rotate through Collingwood's midfield in 2023:
Cox
Cameron
Johnson
Frampton
McStay
Kreuger
---------------
N. Daicos
J. Daicos
Mitchell
Pendlebury
Crisp
De Goey
Adams
Sidebottom
McCreery
Lipinski

6 different ruckman (to cover for in season injuries) and 10 mids.

Edit: Forgot McStay and Kreuger as Rucks.

 

[Caligo]

Players to rotate through Collingwood's midfield in 2023:
Cox
Cameron
Johnson
Frampton
---------------
N. Daicos
J. Daicos
Mitchell
Pendlebury
Crisp
De Goey
Adams
Sidebottom
McCreery
Lipinski

4 different ruckman (to cover for in season injuries) and 10 mids.

Yep. All good teams been doing it since at least peak Geelong.

Maybe it is possible to get by with 5-6 guys doing it all, but I doubt it.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Just using hawthorn as an example because I know them better than other clubs, on any given day during their threepeat playing their best 22 they would run these players through the midfield:

McEvoy
Mitchell
Hodge
Lewis
Shiels
Burgoyne
Smith
Hill
Rioli
Bruest
Roughhead
Hale

And that is conservative. I could have easily named another 5.

On any given day 4-6 of them would play midfield + 2 ruckman.

Depth players, half forwards, half backs, wingers, are they all really worth a mention because they might take the odd centre bounce on the odd week?

May as well put Charlie Curnow for Carlton.

 

[Caligo]

On any given day 4-6 of them would play midfield + 2 ruckman.

Depth players, half forwards, half backs, wingers, are they all really worth a mention?

May as well put Charlie Curnow for Carlton.

It was part of a broader conversation about whether you could rely on a small midfield cohort to do all the work, and my argument was that good sides needed large numbers of players chopping out.

I haven't actually seen curnow do it much like roughhead used to. Does he?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

It was part of a broader conversation about whether you could rely on a small midfield cohort to do all the work, and my argument was that good sides needed large numbers of players chopping out.

I haven't actually seen curnow do it much like roughhead used to. Does he?

I wasn’t apart of any broader conversation. My post from the first page was quoted with no arguments other than I don’t watch “modern” football.

Anyone who watches “modern” football would know that wingers, hff, 2nd rucks are specialist roles and not just extra midfielders because they attend a centre bounce or push up to a boundary throw in to create an outnumber twice a game.

Typical January on BigFooty, a waste of time arguing over nothing and throwing shots, not surprised at the poster who started it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I wasn’t apart of any broader conversation. My post from the first page was quoted with no arguments other than I don’t watch “modern” football.

Anyone who watches “modern” football would know that wingers, hff, 2nd rucks are specialist roles and not just extra midfielders because they attend a centre bounce or push up to a boundary throw in to create an outnumber twice a game.

Typical January on BigFooty, a waste of time arguing over nothing and throwing shots, not surprised at the poster who started it.

Some Hawks supporters have been saying that none of Rachele, Soligo or Pedlar will be decent midfielders as they have played mostly as forwards... so under the 12 midfielder policy, they have been playing as full-time midfielders all this time lol.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Some Hawks supporters have been saying that none of Rachele, Soligo or Pedlar will be decent midfielders as they have played mostly as forwards... so under the 12 midfielder policy, they have been playing as full-time midfielders all this time lol.

They care more about winning clearances than winning games. Perhaps take their word for it lol.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

They care more about winning clearances than winning games. Perhaps take their word for it lol.

Ironic given Clarkson's premiership sides were not concerned much with centre clearances, rather using & retaining possession.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Some Hawks supporters have been saying that none of Rachele, Soligo or Pedlar will be decent midfielders as they have played mostly as forwards... so under the 12 midfielder policy, they have been playing as full-time midfielders all this time lol.

Same Hawk fans who think Will Day is already an elite/A grade footballer just because he won their B and F

Don't get me wrong, Day is a very fine prospect whom should reach the elite/A grade level, but he clearly is not there yet.

Think some fans (of all clubs) take too much stock into Best and Fairest rankings tbh

 

[Tonys_Ronaldsons]

If you throw the ball on the boot often enough, someone will mark it.

just like dusty?