Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

[BennyGFunk]

its ok Walshy had 4 contested on Thursday and played ring a ring a rosie with his mates, Naicos had 27 contested running in straight lines trying to find someone who can actually play football, and failed lol

Walsh was also part of a team that took a top 4 contenders side at their home &
one of if not the toughest road trip in footy, to the cleaners. His side is in top the top 4 currently..

Poor Naicos had to deal with a middling side that has travelled poorly and lost this week to the bulldogs after being 5 goals up

Sad.

 

[HeathySure]

Why wouldn't they check it out occasionally? All they know is footy, they have plenty of spare time and a lot of them have big egos, especially young blokes. As if they're not going to keep an eye on what their audience is saying about them. I know for a fact a former player who played 200+ games used to read shit on here.

I strongly suspect the GOAT thread has been mentioned in media & player circles.



Yep, he is a freak - you will not get a single argument from me about his ability as an AFL player. But any complaints about tall poppy are going to fall on deaf ears. It's your own supporter bases fault - just using the thread by Fadge as an example.

Its the media's fault because they know they will get the clicks by lovers and haters. Daicos is the 2nd best player in the league right now, Bont is the best, But Bont only went beserk last night when Naicos had his rest. There is not much in it.
But Naicos at 21 is better than Bont at 21. What happens in the future, we will see

 

[BennyGFunk]

No one is suggesting ND isn’t a champion of the game

Unfortunately his side are a bunch of middling pretenders

Not his fault he’s held hostage to that club…

 

[HeathySure]

Walsh was also part of a team that took a top 4 contenders side at their home &
one of if not the toughest road trip in footy, to the cleaners. His side is in top the top 4 currently..

Poor Naicos had to deal with a middling side that has travelled poorly and lost this week to the bulldogs after being 5 goals up

Sad.

We lost lol its not sad at all, every team loses eventually. Carlton have been doing it more than anyone in the last 25 years. You should be used to it

 

[HeathySure]

No one is suggesting ND isn’t a champion of the game

Unfortunately his side are a bunch of middling pretenders

Not his fault he’s held hostage to that club…

lol the hostage who has signed on for 7 years

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Not taking away credit from Daicos. But sounds like contested possessions might be a bit of a false indicator?

Basically any possession (loose ball or hard ball) in general play with someone within 10m of you is considered a Contested Possession, as well as Frees For.

I feel like hard ball/ground ball gets would be a better indicator of leading contested players, but i can't seem to find the stats anywhere.

 

[Robertio]

its ok Walshy had 4 contested on Thursday and played ring a ring a rosie with his mates, Naicos had 27 contested running in straight lines trying to find someone who can actually play football, and failed lol

But this thread is about who's better in 2024 and at the minute it's Carlton.

 

[HeathySure]

Not taking away credit from Daicos. But sounds like contested possessions might be a bit of a false indicator?

Basically any possession (loose ball or hard ball) in general play with someone within 10m of you is considered a Contested Possession, as well as Frees For.

I feel like hard ball/ground ball gets would be a better indicator of leading contested players, but i can't seem to find the stats anywhere.

oh jesus christ lol they dont have rules for 1 player you know , you realise all contested possessions are measured on the same basis for all players. Go on, find another excuse to shit on his game

 

[BLUEALLTHRU]

We lost lol its not sad at all, every team loses eventually. Carlton have been doing it more than anyone in the last 25 years. You should be used to it

lol the hostage who has signed on for 7 years

multi-quote is your friend

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Its the media's fault because they know they will get the clicks by lovers and haters. Daicos is the 2nd best player in the league right now, Bont is the best, But Bont only went beserk last night when Naicos had his rest. There is not much in it.
But Naicos at 21 is better than Bont at 21. What happens in the future, we will see

Heeney is having the best year.

What's scary about Daicos is that his style is consistent and durable. Some people might say 'soft' but he's nimble enough to avoid body contact, he dodges traffic & can play any line on the field. He could play 20+ top tier games every year for the next decade, which could seriously mean double digit All Australians.

He rarely has a down game - and that's this early in his career - I simply can't imagine him having a down year.

It's just a shame the Pies are bottom 8 quality if he is injured or tagged out.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Not taking away credit from Daicos. But sounds like contested possessions might be a bit of a false indicator?

Basically any possession (loose ball or hard ball) in general play with someone within 10m of you is considered a Contested Possession, as well as Frees For.

I feel like hard ball/ground ball gets would be a better indicator of leading contested players, but i can't seem to find the stats anywhere.

No one's had a problem with CPs in the past

27 is epic, Cripps has done that once, Walsh's best is 21

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[JustaBattler]

It's not about us or Daics or even the club

It's about the little girl out there playing her first game of football

By misgendering Daics, you've just told her she can't play the game properly because she's a girl, shame on you

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I have no idea wot you are talking about m7.

Perhaps you can quote me misgendering (whatever that means) before throwing accusations my way.

that kidGOAT fred was a joke from the getgo and only Mt Olympus levels of hubris and chest puffery explains its existence- that and BF tolerance of below norm levels of IQ - no one needs a license to post nuffery - the whole place is 'a' just where to go to get free larfs.


I like this fred because it is a 10 no trump easy walk down the road to know who will be the better team in 2024 - the slower thinkers on here will just take longer to figure it all out.

 

[cookie monster]

Richmond pushed the top 2 Bombers all the way just a week ago. If the Cats can get up they will fully warrant a return trip to the top 4.

As Carlton have recently shown, a series of close losses (Adelaide, Geelong, Collingwood) does not have to derail a season. I imagine Scott will be pointing out the mighty Blues efforts to our boys for some inspiration.

Jesus

 

[CarmenSandiego]

No one's had a problem with CPs in the past

27 is epic, Cripps has done that once, Walsh's best is 21

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Watching the game with your own eyes - do you think Daicos is as much of a contested player as Cripps, Bont, Rowell, Green?

It's a flawed stat, or a stat with a misleading name. That goes for all players, not just Daicos.

 

[Mr Meow]

Jesus

I'm not into the religious stuff, let alone being labelled like that. There's a separate section for it on the forum I believe.

 

[carlton_99]

Find me 1 post in this thread where Pies supporters blame injuries

The very mention of the word "injury" in this thread by Carlton fans was met with great disapproval by Collingwood fans and "neutral" fans. So apparently you don't need to blame them for anything to be ridiculed for mentioning them. At least you don't have the "neutrals" jumping down your throat for uttering that word.

Anyone with a brain knows that injuries affect your ability to perform - never the sole reason for a loss but it hurts your chances significantly, especially against the best.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

I have no idea wot you are talking about m7.

Perhaps you can quote me misgendering (whatever that means) before throwing accusations my way.

that kidGOAT fred was a joke from the getgo and only Mt Olympus levels of hubris and chest puffery explains its existence- that and BF tolerance of below norm levels of IQ - no one needs a license to post nuffery - the whole place is 'a' just where to go to get free larfs.


I like this fred because it is a 10 no trump easy walk down the road to know who will be the better team in 2024 - the slower thinkers on here will just take longer to figure it all out.

I didn't mean "you" personally, just a general "you"

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[Arr0w]

What similar derogatory terms have I used?

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Shittonet?

Not that I care, you can call players whatever you want, I just found the double standards humorous

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Watching the game with your own eyes - do you think Daicos is as much of a contested player as Cripps, Bont, Rowell, Green?

It's a flawed stat, or a stat with a misleading name. That goes for all players, not just Daicos.

The numbers say he's a better contested player than all of them [emoji106]

He dishes it out or runs off with it, it's super quick

Should he slow down so he looks more contested? [emoji38]

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[Arr0w]

Find me 1 post in this thread where Pies supporters blame injuries

Why does it have to be in this thread?

 

[Mr Meow]

You'll notice there was no crying from me about facing Melbourne, Port, Gold Coast (in NT...10x harder than at Marvel) and GWS in quick succession. Blues boys have cried difficult fixture all season.

After all the Carlton chest beating, Geelong can still climb back above the Blues tonight. I was surprised to see this was the case, that's all. Don't get upset. Richmond played well last week.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Shittonet?

Not that I care, you can call players whatever you want, I just found the double standards humorous

Did I use that repeatedly? Or just once in response to a baiting question? How many people got offended by that horrific term, a whole gender?

You might want to just let this one go, can't always be right [emoji38]

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[Cleansweep17]

As much as it pains me to say it, I think N Daicos is the best young player I’ve seen.

That in itself will bring out the tall poppy’s. I wouldn’t take anything negative that people say about him seriously.

My only wish is that one day he ends up playing for the club he cherished as a kid!

It’s not tall poppy, I just feel bad for the MCG maintenance crew constantly cleaning up the Reef Oil smudged all over the ground whenever he gets tackled.

 

[carlton_99]

Blues boys have cried difficult fixture all season

Nine games in a row against teams that were/will be in the top 8 at the start of the Round they played/play. If that's not a difficult stretch of games I don't know what is

 

[Mr Meow]

Nine games in a row against teams that were/will be in the top 8 at the start of the Round they played/play. If that's not a difficult stretch of games I don't know what is

Sydney are the only strong side in the league currently.

You can throw a blanket over the next 13 or so depending on natural variability of week to week performance levels.